Wickerman
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Dude you are beating the same drum again and again without understanding the point of views of others. I said that these straight women turn into lesbians because of bad relationship with men again and again or because of mistreatment/cheating from opposite gender. They never thought of being in a gay/lesbians relationship when they were growing up or when they were going to start relationship with men. They decided to be lesbians after having failed relationship with men and losing interest in them. They assumed they will get more emotional and physical support(empathy) from same gender than opposite gender.They called themselves straight when they were with men and now they call them selves lesbians when they started to develop the feelings of hate/dislike for men. They were heterosexual at some point and now identify themselves as a lesbian and you call them bisexual
How do you KNOW they were straight?
Does it mean someone is straight just because they "call" themselves as one?
Cant a gay person actually call himself/herself straight?
What if the person was actually bisexual or gay, but was in a relationship because he/she was afraid to admit the fact that they were gay? There are tons of people in heterosexual relationships, even have kids, but are ACTUALLY gay!
There are lots of possibilities that you are ignoring.
BUT, even if what you say is true, they have the right to do what they want to do and should not be persecuted or discriminated against.
You are not understanding the fact that many people try sex with same gender as a experiment to find out whether they enjoy it or not. Sexuality is complex and sexual preferences may change with time. If something is seen or said enough on tv, drama, news etc then it becomes the norm. Sexual preferences are not always set in stone the way you put it. Certain things which did not appeal you at the early age might become appealing or attractive for you in later stages of your life. Many bisexual women also end up with men because of desire of kids. No single gay gene has ever been identified as the cause of homosexual behaviour so you cannot say for certain if people are born gay or decide to be gay. Its like saying people are born with a propensity for alcoholism, insanity, child molestation , rapist and they cannot help it because their sexual orientation is like this that they get the feelings of pleasure in these acts of rape and child molestation
No I understand that. I have said as much in my earlier post.
Second bolded part:
Here is where you are wrong.
1. Prostitution - same sex relations for money. We are not discussing this.
2. People who experiment - I did say homoflexible and heteroflexible or bicurious. These people might/might not actually be gay. But remember they are just experimenting, not actually becoming full blown gay folks.
3. You are also going by the assumption that whoever becomes gay later on in life, actually "chooses" to do so. My question is HOW do you know they CHOOSE? They could actually be bisexual,gay etc.,
But here is the thing, if someone chooses to do something, they have freedom of choice.
If someone is born that way then we cant blame them. And the evidence for this one is much more.
True but if they say they are born that way then they should prove it, otherwise they should not argue against people who say it is a disease and that they need help.
How can you prove it?
If I ask you to prove that you were born a heterosexual how would you prove it?