Hindutva Brahmin Cultural Imposition - No onion and garlic in midday meals served to students

[Microsoft]

Onion and Garlic grow underground and harvesting them means killing the plant itself. Unlike fruits and Vegetables and grains and pulses that grow and can be harvested without killing the plant.

Similarly vegetables like potato, carrot etc which grow underground and cannot be harvested without killing the plant is to be avoided in a strict Hindu diet.

A meal which causes minimal damage to life is called a "Satvik" diet. or a pure diet. Other being rajsik and tamsik.

In the past brahmins and those who concerned themselves about living right tried to inculcate a strict satvik diet.


Its only after the advent of the christian british that there was a major disruption in Indian diet due to forcible cultivation of non food items like opium and Indigo by the british.

Even then the Hindus managed to hold on to a strict Vegetarian diet that again caused minimum damage to other life around us. Even the Hindu Fishermen of Mumbai were Vegetarians during british rule and that should tell you something.


The other major disruption in India food habits came after the advent of COMMUNIST in India that choose to denigrate anything "Hindu" since it posed a challenge to the communist ideology.

Also due to killing of milch animals and general degradation of environment, the nutrients value of fruits and vegetables grown in India as fallen by 40% so the general diet and health has suffered. This started the introduction of eggs into the Hindu diet system and lifestyle.

So do you guys not use pesticides on your crops?

 

[letsrock]

Onion and Garlic grow underground and harvesting them means killing the plant itself. Unlike fruits and Vegetables and grains and pulses that grow and can be harvested without killing the plant.

Similarly vegetables like potato, carrot etc which grow underground and cannot be harvested without killing the plant is to be avoided in a strict Hindu diet.

A meal which causes minimal damage to life is called a "Satvik" diet. or a pure diet. Other being rajsik and tamsik.

In the past brahmins and those who concerned themselves about living right tried to inculcate a strict satvik diet.


Its only after the advent of the christian british that there was a major disruption in Indian diet due to forcible cultivation of non food items like opium and Indigo by the british.

Even then the Hindus managed to hold on to a strict Vegetarian diet that again caused minimum damage to other life around us. Even the Hindu Fishermen of Mumbai were Vegetarians during british rule and that should tell you something.


The other major disruption in India food habits came after the advent of COMMUNIST in India that choose to denigrate anything "Hindu" since it posed a challenge to the communist ideology.

Also due to killing of milch animals and general degradation of environment, the nutrients value of fruits and vegetables grown in India as fallen by 40% so the general diet and health has suffered. This started the introduction of eggs into the Hindu diet system and lifestyle.

Absolute crap. These people seem to think entire world is full of bhakths who will beleive anything that these people fart. There is nothing called hindu diet. There is a caste diet - brahmins, jain, banias eat veg,,,others eat non veg and dalits eat beef. Vegetarianism is a result of buddhist influence. Before that brahmins ate freely beef. They took up vegetarianism as part of their desire to replace budhism in India.

Second it is laughable to say that hurt or damage is major criteria. No religion causes as much hurt to its own followers as caste ridden hinduism. A brahmin thinks nothing of owning of "go mata" selling it in market as property, beating it to pulp and milking it at will.

 

[Shankranthi]

So do you guys not use pesticides on your crops?

In the past, cow urine and Neem used to be the pesticides. They did not kill the insects, but kept them away.

That along with creating nesting conditions for birds like the sparrow that used to eat the pests invading the crops. Nowadays the sparrow has almost become extinct and natural and organic farming has almost but disappeared.

Absolute crap. These people seem to think entire world is full of bhakths who will beleive anything that these people fart. There is nothing called hindu diet. There is a caste diet - brahmins, jain, banias eat veg,,,others eat non veg and dalits eat beef. Vegetarianism is a result of buddhist influence. Before that brahmins ate freely beef. They took up vegetarianism as part of their desire to replace budhism in India.

Second it is laughable to say that hurt or damage is major criteria. No religion causes as much hurt to its own followers as caste ridden hinduism. A brahmin thinks nothing of owning of "go mata" selling it in market as property, beating it to pulp and milking it at will.

I couldn't care less what ignorant bigots choose to believe.

Its laughable to claim vegetarianism came from Buddhists since Buddhists are non veterinarians , unlike Hindus.

 

[Microsoft]

In the past, cow urine and Neem used to be the pesticides. They did not kill the insects, but kept them away.

That along with creating nesting conditions for birds like the sparrow that used to eat the pests invading the crops. Nowadays the sparrow has almost become extinct and natural and organic farming has almost but disappeared.

Those are interesting techniques. I know neem is still used in day to day gardening by people but I didn't know it was used in farms. So today they use industrial style pesticides that kill the insects?

 

[Shankranthi]

Those are interesting techniques. I know neem is still used in day to day gardening by people but I didn't know it was used in farms. So today they use industrial style pesticides that kill the insects?

Introduction of Strong industrial pesticides creates a destructive ecosystem that forces insects out of farms using pesticide and they then invade farms that use organic farming. Thus destroying the organic farm and ruining the poor farmer who looses his entire crop.

This in turn forces the organic farmer into buying pesticides the next time.

Given a choice between industrial pesticides and Neem, the insects chooses the lesser of the two evils.

SO unless there is a ban on industrial pesticide, organic farming has no future unless its in a "glass house".

In turn, organic lifestyle and eco friendly or Hindu lifestyle is facing extinction too. Then we wonder why the glaciers and ice caps are melting.

 

[Microsoft]

Introduction of Strong industrial pesticides creates a destructive ecosystem that forces insects out of farms using pesticide and they then invade farms that use organic farming. Thus destroying the organic farm and ruining the poor farmer who looses his entire crop.

This in turn forces the organic farmer into buying pesticides the next time.

Given a choice between industrial pesticides and Neem, the insects uses the lesser of the two evils.

SO unless there is a ban on industrial pesticide, organic farming has no future unless its in a "glass house".

In turn, organic lifestyle and eco friendly or Hindu lifestyle is facing extinction too. Then we wonder why the glaciers and ice caps are melting.

This is truly sad. In the US there are amish people who don't use modern technology ie. electricity, cars, etc. and try to live away from urban areas, sticking to their traditional values. Are there areas where "true" Hindu lifestyle is found?

 

[newb3e]

is modi a brahmin or their puppet? brahmin are supposed to be elite class but modi is a fking chai walla?

 

[Shankranthi]

This is truly sad. In the US there are amish people who don't use modern technology ie. electricity, cars, etc. and try to live away from urban areas, sticking to their traditional values. Are there areas where "true" Hindu lifestyle is found?

There is nothing called a "true" hindu lifestyle.

Lifestyle is dictated by the environment you live in. Its the Hindu value system that is "true" and most Hindus try to live by it to the extend possible.

For e.g. Even the Rajsik and Tamsik food is "Hindu", only it puts more burden and responsibility on those following it to contribute more and give back to nature more. Most fail to fulfill that responsibility and hence such lifestyle is not recommended.

Those in ISKON, many brahmins and Jains, and many other hindu community practice the satvik lifestyle including the choice of food they eat.

Its widespread in India and does not have any specific community. Its depends on your affordability of that lifestyle and the extend of your "ambition".

Satvik food does not ignite your passions and give more space for your logical mind to function.

Rajsik food feeds into your passion and gives more fire to your animal nature and not your human nature. So one needs to have more self control and constant awareness to be less destructive to people and environment around you/

Tamsik food again suprsses your logical mind by feeding into your passions / hormones etc and probability of you doing something you might regret later increases.

Its just a trade off between your lifestyle and the responsibilities it imposes on you.

Hindus call it the "Dharma Sankat".

 

[crankthatskunk]

Possibly something about both of these vegetables growing under the ground.

"As per the scripture, garlic, onion and mushroom are prohibited for Brahmins because they are considered impure as they generally grow in the place of impurity. Brahmins need to maintain purity as they worship gods who are sattvic (pure) in nature."
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I don't understand this mumbo jumbo. Tell me who are these effing Brahmins!!! They seem to call lots of problem for the world.

There is nothing called a "true" hindu lifestyle.

Those in ISKON, many brahmins and Jains, and many other hindu community practice the satvik lifestyle including the choice of food they eat.

Satvik food does not ignite your passions and give more space for your logical mind to function.

Rajsik food feeds into your passion and gives more fire to your animal nature and not your human nature. So one needs to have more self control and constant awareness to be less destructive to people and environment around you/

Tamsik food again suprsses your logical mind by feeding into your passions / hormones etc and probability of you doing something you might regret later increases.

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If what you write above is true, then it is having the reverse effect on Hindus. For example in the above quote you excluded other castes of Hindu except the Brhmins and Jains. That itself is a racist and elitist attitude, bordering on inhumanity.
The amount of Animal's nature and hatred shown in India against Muslims, Christians and Dalits, proves that it is having opposite effect on the Hindus.
Looking at the lies, crookedness and twisting performed by the Hindus shows that at least they are not using logic.

 

[Shankranthi]

If what you write above is true, then it is having the reverse effect on Hindus. For example in the above quote you excluded other castes of Hindu except the Brhmins and Jains. That itself is a racist and elitist attitude, bordering on inhumanity.
The amount of Animal's nature and hatred shown in India against Muslims, Christians and Dalits, proves that it is having opposite effect on the Hindus.
Looking at the lies, crookedness and twisting performed by the Hindus shows that at least they are not using logic.

Brahmin is not a "caste", its VARNA.

Anyone can become a "brahmin" based on his GUNA or "Nature". The same way anyone can eat a Satvik Food and lifestyle depending on their GUNA or NATURE.

Beyond that, you are free to assume anything that helps you live with your Hinduphobia. Not my problem.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Brahmin is not a "caste", its VARNA.

Anyone can become a "brahmin" based on his GUNA or "Nature". The same way anyone can eat a Satvik Food and lifestyle depending on their GUNA or NATURE.

Beyond that, you are free to assume anything that helps you live with your Hinduphobia. Not my problem.

You mean to say that all those "low caste" treated less than human, didn't know that and have not evolved themselves as "Brahmins" in centuries!!!
I don't have phobia, the Hindus do for each other, based on archaic caste system, which is truly inhuman.

 

[Shankranthi]

You mean to say that all those "low caste" treated less than human, didn't know that and have not evolved themselves as "Brahmins" in centuries!!!
I don't have phobia, the Hindus do for each other, based on archaic caste system, which is truly inhuman.

Like I said, I couldn't care less about your phobia.

However if you are seeking education to address you ignorance, here is a 6 minute video that will explain the "caste" system and its origin.

 

[manlion]

Onion and Garlic grow underground and harvesting them means killing the plant itself. Unlike fruits and Vegetables and grains and pulses that grow and can be harvested without killing the plant.

Similarly vegetables like potato, carrot etc which grow underground and cannot be harvested without killing the plant is to be avoided in a strict Hindu diet. meal which causes minimal damage to life is called a "Satvik" diet. or a pure diet. Other being rajsik and tamsik.

the reason for the prohibition of onion/garlic by IskCOn /Akshaya Patra has to do with their food classification (sattva/good/brahmin vs rajas/tamas/bad/non brahmin) and not killing

Onions and garlic, and the other alliaceous plants are classified as rajasic and tamasic, which means that they increase passion and ignorance.

It should be pointed out that Garlic and onion are avoided by spiritual adherents because they stimulate the central nervous system, and can disturb vows of celibacy. Garlic is a natural aphrodisiac.

http://food.krishna.com/article/why-no-garlic-or-onions

 

[AfrazulMandal]

The State government appears to have backtracked on its stand that onion and garlic be introduced in mid-day meals served to students. It has entered into a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the Akshaya Patra Foundation (APF), a subsidiary of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), despite the latter’s refusal to use the two ingredients.

In November last year, the Department of Primary and Secondary Education had directed the foundation to use onion and garlic in food preparations. When the foundation refused to do so, the CEO of Bengaluru (Urban) Zilla Panchayat put the MoU, which had to be signed in April 2018, on hold.

In Bengaluru alone, APF provides meals to 1.83 lakh students in 1,212 schools.

“Akshaya Patra Foundation refused to include onion and garlic. We could not make alternative arrangements to provide food, and had to yield,” said an official, adding that the issue is yet to be resolved.

In February, reports by the National Institute of Nutrition stated that the menu by APF was in compliance with the nutritional guidelines suggested by the Ministry of Human Resource Development (MHRD).

The Central Food Technological Research Institute (CFTRI) said that it is yet to study samples from schools which received food from the foundation to see if the meals met or exceeded the energy and protein norms of the MHRD. But, CFTRI also stated that the contribution of onion and garlic towards macro and micro nutrients is negligible.

While CFTRI had earlier stated that onion and garlic enhance the bioaccessibility of iron and zinc from foodgrains, in its report submitted in February, it said that ingredients such as drumstick, turmeric, lime and jeera are also known to enhance bioaccessibility of micronutrients.

According to MHRD norms, food supplied to lower primary students should have 450 kcal energy and 12 grams of protein, while food supplied to upper primary classes should have 700 kcal and 20 grams protein.

M. R. Maruthi, Joint Director of the Midday Meal Scheme in Karnataka, said that while the MoU had been signed, the Chief Secretary and the Principal Secretary of the department are yet to take a call on inclusion of onion and garlic.

The move has not gone down well among public health experts and activists who have urged the State government to end the contract with APF.

Sylvia Karpagam, a public health doctor and researcher, said the larger issue is that children were not eating adequate quantities of the midday meals as it was not tasty. “Not including onion and garlic in the midday meals is a cultural imposition,” she said. She added that the State Food Commission had received complaints that students were not eating the meals as they were not familiar with food that did not use onion and garlic.

https://www.thehindu.com/todays-pap...TtO8ztpoyVREKrkS7oTwq9ly_NGpPTwjr1mjIjj-Xp1NU

Children are supposed to get nutrition and education.

Akshay Patra or any Hindu or Jain or Sikh organisation doing mid day meal service should be banned.

Follow the Kerala model and feed all meat, eggs and vegetables for a complete diet. Pork should remain banned because for many it is haraam.

Any Hindu opposing will be in a minority. They can be simply rusticated. In a couple of generations meat consumption won't be an issue at all.

There is nothing called a "true" hindu lifestyle.

Lifestyle is dictated by the environment you live in. Its the Hindu value system that is "true" and most Hindus try to live by it to the extend possible.

For e.g. Even the Rajsik and Tamsik food is "Hindu", only it puts more burden and responsibility on those following it to contribute more and give back to nature more. Most fail to fulfill that responsibility and hence such lifestyle is not recommended.

Those in ISKON, many brahmins and Jains, and many other hindu community practice the satvik lifestyle including the choice of food they eat.

Its widespread in India and does not have any specific community. Its depends on your affordability of that lifestyle and the extend of your "ambition".

Satvik food does not ignite your passions and give more space for your logical mind to function.

Rajsik food feeds into your passion and gives more fire to your animal nature and not your human nature. So one needs to have more self control and constant awareness to be less destructive to people and environment around you/

Tamsik food again suprsses your logical mind by feeding into your passions / hormones etc and probability of you doing something you might regret later increases.

Its just a trade off between your lifestyle and the responsibilities it imposes on you.

Hindus call it the "Dharma Sankat".

Blah blah

 

[manlion]

Brahmin is not a "caste", its VARNA.

Anyone can become a "brahmin" based on his GUNA or "Nature". The same way anyone can eat a Satvik Food and lifestyle depending on their GUNA or NATURE.

Beyond that, you are free to assume anything that helps you live with your Hinduphobia. Not my problem.

your claim that anyone can be brahmin contradicts with Krishna's command - which he had emphasized twice in the Bhagavad Gita (BG) i.e one should not change his/her varna

BG chapter 3 :35

It is far better to discharge one's prescribed duties, even though they may be faulty than another's duties. Destruction in the course of performing one's own duty is better than engaging in another's duties, for to follow another's path is dangerous.

https://www.asitis.com/3/35.html

BG chapter 18 text 47

It is better to engage in one's own occupation, even though one may perform it imperfectly, than to accept another's occupation and perform it perfectly. Prescribed duties, according to one's nature, are never affected by sinful reactions.

https://asitis.com/18/47.html