Hindu Extremists attack converted Sikh family in Thar

[Hammy007]

Another example of religious extremism in Pakistan?

yes hindu extremism

the so called oppressed minority

 

[Masterchief]

Hindus or Muslims, doesnt matter, radicals should be punished, and lets all stop this minority rights thing neither pak nor india face better at minority rights, we all know that and so we all should stop acting foolish.

 

[gubbi]

Ya Ya, all these Hindus attended schools in Pakistan.

Dude, Advani was born in present day Pakistan, Karachi!! No wonder he's such rightwing!! Is it the water or the air?

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yes hindu extremism

the so called oppressed minority

Your country, your problems!! Nothing to do with India.

 

[King123]

Still no Pakistani member ready to reply why 90% Hindus and Sikhs were Killed by most brutal way in Pakistan and ready to post some rare situation of 0.0001 of Minorities in India.

 

[King123]

Looks like I need to Post 100 of Links related with Condition and what happened with Hindus and Shikhs in Pakistan. All written By Pakistani people Only. Will Post Later with all details.

 

[EastWest]

I thought conversion is not allowed in Sikhism and Hinduism...

 

[great]

Trust me, your present is abysmal as well, & I can quote you a lot of figures, but I don't want to divert the thread.

Tell that to Hindus of Bangladesh too.

 

[53fd]

That article was about current Pakistan that means West Pakistan at partition.

This is a well known fact but you are so weak with facts and then yu refuse to believe when someone tells you facts.

One link to get you started.

Demography

In August 1947, at the end of British Raj, the population percentage of Hindus in what is today in Pakistan was perhaps as high as 15-20%, but would drop to its current total of less than 2% in the years since independence. According to the 1998 Pakistan Census, caste Hindus constitute about 1.6 percent of the total population of Pakistan and about 6.6% in province of Sindh. The Pakistan Census separates Schedule Castes from the main body of Hindus who make up a further 0.25% of national population[4]

Hinduism in Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The [4] at the bottom of the page gives me an error every time I try to load it. [4] is also not a reference for this sentence anyways:

"In August 1947, at the end of British Raj, the population percentage of Hindus in what is today in Pakistan was perhaps as high as 15-20%, but would drop to its current total of less than 2% in the years since independence."

Someone just edited the page & made that up when typing in that sentence. Hence, you didn't even provide me a source. Anyone can edit wikipedia at their discretion. If you can give me a neutral source claiming that to be the case, then I'll believe you.

 

[Vinod2070]

The [4] at the bottom of the page gives me an error every time I try to load it. [4] is also not a reference for this sentence anyways:

"In August 1947, at the end of British Raj, the population percentage of Hindus in what is today in Pakistan was perhaps as high as 15-20%, but would drop to its current total of less than 2% in the years since independence."

Someone just edited the page & made that up when typing in that sentence. Hence, you didn't even provide me a source. Anyone can edit wikipedia at their discretion. If you can give me a neutral source claiming that to be the case, then I'll believe you.

Check Pakistani census itself. T-Faz also shared the same numbers some time back.

Many Indians and even Paks do not know the following basic facts of Hindus in Pakistan.

Pre-1947 Majority of "would be Pakistani" Hindus lived in Punjab.
Pre-1947 Majority of "would be Indian" Muslims lived in UP, Bihar, Punjab and smaller percentage in other parts.

In pre-1947, %age of Muslims in Indian East Punjab was >55%
In pre-1947, %age of Hindus+Sikhs in Pakistani West Punjab was >15%

In post-1947, %age of Muslims in Indian East Punjab became ZERO
In post-1947, %age of Hindus+Sikhs in Pakistani West Punjab became ZERO

Unless you know these basic historical facts, all your statistical analysis will be incorrectly skewed.

peace.


p.s. 1. Pakistan should have done a lot better job in protecting minorities.
p.s. 2. luckily Hindus in other parts of Pakistan survived the carnage, and similarly Muslims living in other parts of India survived too.

Also this:

There were 39,448,232 people in West Pakistan and a total of 6.54 milllion hindus, of which 5.4 million left for India.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...971-east-pak-fiasco-says-d-2.html#post1767338

Actually this is a very well known fact and you should know this before debating on such issues.

 

[Al-zakir]

Singh, who converted from Hinduism to Sikhism a few years ago after becoming fed up with the inequality in the caste system, was living in a quarter which belonged to a Brahmin named Manga Ram Sharma. Since then, he was being subjected to religious hatred and this situation spiraled out of control when Singh and his family were attacked by a mob comprising mostly Brahmins.

Caste system must be the lowest quality practice among men. It almost fall under the category of sub-human practice. How can one man be superior over other based on birth identity? All low caste Hindus should converted to other religion to escape from this man made curse.

 

[Al-zakir]

Tell that to Hindus of Bangladesh too.

What happened to Hindus in Bangladesh? They still there living happily without facing discrimination based on caste.

 

[53fd]

Check Pakistani census itself. T-Faz also shared the same numbers some time back.



Also this:



http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...971-east-pak-fiasco-says-d-2.html#post1767338

Actually this is a very well known fact and you should know this before debating on such issues.

Some info:

Now lets consider the case of West Pakistan alone because that is what is left from the Pakistan that was originally conceived. Data from 1947 cannot be used becuase of mass migration of Hindus towards India. Lets use 1950 for a better comparison shall we as it was when the migration and internal displacement was somewhat over. There were 39,448,232 people in West Pakistan and a total of 6.54 milllion hindus, of which 5.4 million left for India.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/akhwaja/papers/The Big March December 2005.pdf

Remaining Hindus in Pakistan in 1950 after Hindu migration: 6.54 - 5.4 = 1.14 million
Remaining people in Pakistan in 1950 after Hindu migration: 39.5 - 5.4 = 34.1 million

% of Hindus in Pakistan in 1950 after Hindu migration: 1.14/34.1 x 100 = 3.3% of the total population

Meaning Pakistan was left with 6.54 - 5.4 million = 1.14 million Hindus in 1950. Pakistan has about 7 million Hindus, & 8 million Christians living in Pakistan today. In other words, the population of Hindus increased from 1.14 million to about 7 million from 1950 to 2011, but the Pakistan Muslim population increased from 33 million to about 170 million. The Muslim population grew a lot faster than the non-Muslim population. I hope I've helped you clear your misconceptions.

 

[Burger Boy]

Yes there are Hindu extremists like there are in any religion.

But, Let's condemn the action and the individual who did it rather than using guilt by association to blame all hindus for this.

After all, how would you like it if people blamed Muslims collectively for the actions of few.

Keep in mind that this hindu was a Pakistani

 

[Zarvan]

Karachi: A mob of Hindu extremists targeted a Sikh family in the Thar Desert, causing serious injury to its eldest member, claimed a well-placed source of the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP).

Sardar Jagjit Singh Khalsa, who is the head of the impoverished Sikh family, was seriously injured when he was attacked by a baton-slinging and gun-toting mob of Hindus led by Brahmins.

Singh, who converted from Hinduism to Sikhism a few years ago after becoming fed up with the inequality in the caste system, was living in a quarter which belonged to a Brahmin named Manga Ram Sharma. Since then, he was being subjected to religious hatred and this situation spiraled out of control when Singh and his family were attacked by a mob comprising mostly Brahmins.

The assailants were led by Mangha Ram Sharma’s brother-in-law, Tulja Ram Joshi, Choith Ram Joshi, Dholo Joshi, Suneel son of Jagdesh and Lonio Sharma. Carrying firearms and other weapons, the group stormed into Singh’s living quarters and attacked the family.

Singh was severely injured, but his wife and children saved his life by shielding him from the attackers, the source said. After carrying out the attack, the extremist Hindus ransacked his residence, looting valuables and throwing the rest of his belongings out of the house.

Due to the clout enjoyed by the Brahmin community in the area, the police refused to register Jagjit Singh’s FIR, the source further claimed.

The source also revealed that his landlord Mangha Ram had been convicted of corruption after he fled to India, taking millions of rupees. Ram was a land official for the Sindh Revenue Department and posted in the Left-Bank Outfall Drainage project.

On March 16, 2005, the Special Judge (Anti-Corruption) Hyderabad declared him an absconder under Section 512 and issued a proclamation under 87 CrPC and ordered to attach his movable or immovable property under 88 CrPC. Thus these quarters were now government property, the source said.

Singh, who was born into a Dalit/Scheduled caste family, ran from pillar to post, but nobody was willing to hear his cries for help out of fear for the Brahmin community.

The sourced added that Singh appealed to the people, the government, Supreme Court and human rights activists to come to his aid. He also announced that he would go on a hunger strike until justice is served.

According to research conducted by Zulfiqar Shah, a researcher associated with Pakistan Institute of Labour Education and Research (Piler), as many as 40 schedule castes have been identified in Pakistan at the official level. The Constitution of Pakistan ensures equal rights to all its citizens, but discrimination on the basis of religion, race and caste continues to plague the nation.


Hindu Extremists attack converted Sikh family in Thar

what the hell man this happened in Pakistan well protect that Sikh Family

 

[Vinod2070]

Caste system must be the lowest quality practice among men. It almost fall under the category of sub-human practice. How can one man be superior over other based on birth identity? All low caste Hindus should converted to other religion to escape from this man made curse.

I think the most sub human practice is believing that 80% of the world will go to eternal hellfire while people praying in a particular way are going to watch it happily from the balcony of heaven enjoying with their 72.

And actually looking forward to it!

Blowing up innocents everywhere, in their homes, marketplaces etc. in the hope of laying 72 houries is as subhuman as it gets.

Strapping and Blowing up an infant to try and kill Benazir when she returned?

The hundreds of sects calling each other kaffir and blowing up each others' mosques (and generally persecuting them).

The razakaars killing and raping millions of Bengalis with their paymasters.

Checking people's circumcision before they are massacred?

Passing fatawa on who is a kaffir all the time by low lives?

Treating the convert Muslims of the subcontinent lowly by the supposedly higher caste Ashraf fil.th.

People like you should look at your own issues. The razakaars are the worst of the lot.

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Some info:



Remaining Hindus in Pakistan in 1950 after Hindu migration: 6.54 - 5.4 = 1.14 million
Remaining people in Pakistan in 1950 after Hindu migration: 39.5 - 5.4 = 34.1 million

% of Hindus in Pakistan in 1950 after Hindu migration: 1.14/34.1 x 100 = 3.3% of the total population

Meaning Pakistan was left with 6.54 - 5.4 million = 1.14 million Hindus in 1950. Pakistan has about 7 million Hindus, & 8 million Christians living in Pakistan today. In other words, the population of Hindus increased from 1.14 million to about 7 million from 1950 to 2011, but the Pakistan Muslim population increased from 33 million to about 170 million. The Muslim population grew a lot faster than the non-Muslim population. I hope I've helped you clear your misconceptions.

I am talking of the ethnic cleansing during and after the partition period (1947-1950)!