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Highest Mountain in Kargil is in PA Control

155mm howitzer also failed in test , what is next option ?

For God sake at least give better car to your prime minister lol

Who says 155s failed?

The IA is changing to 155s.

Are you talking of the Krasnopols?

Our PM has BMWs.

Any suggestions for a better car?

RR?
 
So far what i have seen with Pakistan people is ... they blame for the loss a single individual like Nawaz... he actually saved the country getting into full war.. while your succeeding leaders just point to a small capture... they are not pointing on how much they lost in Kargil.. they still cant understand you people have occupied almost all key post and you have to back to square 1... it is a huge loss..... same goes in 1965 and in 1971.. you are happy with small small victories but you are not looking back at huge loss....

If a next war happens.. if for example Pakistan looses Lahore or Islamabad or Karachi and you gain Jaisalmar ... i bet you people will tell we have jaisalmar in hand and you would have forgotten the cities you lost to India
 
Both Pakistan and India should free the Siachin as its one of the largest glaciours on the earth and any war in that area will severlly damage the glasiour and all the ice will melt causing floods in both india and pakistan.
 
Both Pakistan and India should free the Siachin as its one of the largest glaciours on the earth and any war in that area will severlly damage the glasiour and all the ice will melt causing floods in both india and pakistan.

If PA had not try to occupy Siachin in first case ... IA wouldnt have gone and occupied it..
 
I wonder why people like to brag about things, that can cause more animosity about our two nations. You are celebrating for a post that was never occupied by India and should not have been taken by Pakistan as it was on LOC. We had occupied 5139 sq miles i.e 13232 sq km of Pakistan's land but returned it as good will gesture.
Although we still hold 480 sq miles ( 1210 sq km) of Pakistan occupied Kashmir land and Pakistan's hold 170 sq km of Indian Kashmir but both the countries never altered the LOC. Wonder how would you feel if we start boasting about this, as to when compared to a single post that too occupied by several Indian posts.

Here is Pakistan's goverment version on Simla Agreement:Supplement - Shaheed Zulfikar Ali Bhutto

You are forgetting something, It was India which entered its Army in Siachin first in 1980s Pakistan just followed later before this none of both countries had presence there.
 
if it is true then it is not good for us
 
You are forgetting something, It was India which entered its Army in Siachin first in 1980s Pakistan just followed later before this none of both countries had presence there.

The Pakistan army was planning to occupy.

It is just that the Indian army beat them to it!
 
You are forgetting something, It was India which entered its Army in Siachin first in 1980s Pakistan just followed later before this none of both countries had presence there.

Brother, this is not about Siachen. Siachen happened in 1984 with India holding all the strategic peaks there. This agreement was after 1971 war when India not only won in East Pakistan but gained 13000 sq km of West Pakistan's land in Punjab and Sindh sector which it gave back.But India still holds 1210 sq km of Pakistani occupied Kashmir which it got in 1971.
 
The Pakistan army was planning to occupy.

It is just that the Indian army beat them to it!

They were not planning but they literally had it done with there Battalion of SSG's not understanding the heights of Indian Army's Potential that it took them near hand Combat yet give up to a not so special forces of ours...
 
Brother, this is not about Siachen. Siachen happened in 1984 with India holding all the strategic peaks there. This agreement was after 1971 war when India not only won in East Pakistan but gained 13000 sq km of West Pakistan's land in Punjab and Sindh sector which it gave back.But India still holds 1210 sq km of Pakistani occupied Kashmir which it got in 1971.

Wishing this time, all of will be ours....

It is just a heaven and our native MOTHERLAND
 
Wishing this time, all of will be ours....

It is just a heaven and our native MOTHERLAND

LOL, little it is known in Pakistan, that in 1971 with losing East Pakistan they lost a major part of Kashmir. There is a book by Hussain Haqqani explicitly describing the diplomacy involved during that agreement.
 
They were not planning but they literally had it done with there Battalion of SSG's not understanding the heights of Indian Army's Potential that it took them near hand Combat yet give up to a not so special forces of ours...

Could you elaborate?

Lt Col Sarwate was commanding.
 
New Delhi. Despite the increasing obsolescence of artillery guns, mortars and rocket launchers, no contract has so far been concluded for their replacement even though protracted trials of several 155mm howitzers were carried out over the last few years.

You clearly have no idea how effective and deadly an artillery barrage is. Never ever underestimate the power of artillery in the field. Period. Ask any infantryman who has been unlucky enough to be at the receiving end of an artillery barrage and you will get an inkling of how demoralizing and absolutely terrifying it actually is. Obsolete or not, artillery is not called the king of the battle field for nothing!!
 
Could you elaborate?

Lt Col Sarwate was commanding.

And So was Brig Chand a part of it... If there were only plans from pakistan, I Suppose "Operation Meghdoot" was a Mere Myth.... The Hostile troops were Raised by non other than the then Brigadier General Pervez Musharraf... It is so said that Bilafond La was the witness for the Hand to hand Combat.
 
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