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High-level army huddle briefed on recent incidents in Balochistan

Folks please and I say this to both Shias and Sunnis. Dont fall into the trap of this Shia - Sunni divide. We must in all circumstances avoid this disaster. Sunnis need to show magnanimity and Shias need to show deference. Otherwise our enemies all around us will cause havoc within us and this is truly the last major card they have.
 
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Shia will be angry...few days ago, FIA rounded up a whole gang of Shia working for Iran...Shia clerics like Shehnsha and Ali Sajjad openly insult Shiekhain....One of them Asif Reza fled to UK after he spewed his venom about Afzlul Khalq Baad Az Rusul Yani Sayedna Abu Bakar Siddique RA in Islamabad...
Shia eats in Pakistan but are all praises in favor of Iran.
You are talking about one jahil person who fled to UK and Uk gave him protection... right ?? ... why..What rest of Shia has to do what he is doing, should the rest of shia get punished for his personal act? do what the law says... throw him life in prison or hang him... there should be an extreme punishment for sectarian violence. Shahbaz Sharif stole billions of rupees and our FIA still looking for clues to arrest him ..... our judicial system is the biggest joke.

ONLY ABSOLUTE PUNISHMENT REDUCES THE VIOLENCE. VIOLENCE FROM SOCIETY CAN NOT BE ELIMINATED. it is the law of nature ... maybe some will not be agreed ... but it is reality.
 
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Exactly.

Our basics aren't even aligned. It's a new 'elite' (not an intellectual elite with higher consciousness, but an 'establishment elite') that has simply replaced the British colonizing elite. The same exploitation continues.

As Noam Chomsky says about the US: it is one of the most free but also one of the most indoctrinated nations in the world. That means that everybody is "allowed" to publish such a thesis, but would find it incredibly hard to find an advisor willing to supervise it. So, these subtle mechanisms result in thought control and what he calls 'miseducation.' Essentially, these universities want to produce 'excellent sheep' who are what Nassem Taleb (of black swan fame) calls "intellectual-yet-idiots." They can't access a higher consciousness and see the world for what it is. They buy into the poster themes and superficial crap that they've been fed, and come out as conformist robots despite being highly intelligent individuals.

Long story short: if you can back up your claims intellectually, some departments are more sympathetic to such theses. There is nothing stopping anyone from going forward with this --- the tragedy is that 100% (note that I did not say 99.99%) of Pakistanis doing social science dissertations at top US/UK universities are ALL towing the narratives that they're being fed. Imagine how intellectually enslaved a nation has to be for its top minds (the undergraduate kids at Harvard from Pakistan, who are the best of the best academically from across Pakistan's best schools) called Hussain Haqqani as one of the main speakers for an event on Pakistan's challenges and future. A man who even most goraz privately acknowledge is a sellout and snake! Ye haal hai.

But it shouldn't be surprising. There is no compelling, competing narrative. There is no urgency felt by those in power to get a new 'intellectual elite' with a higher consciousness (by this I mean the ability to look beyond post colonial tropes and Western indoctrination) into government. There is no human capital strategy. Religion itself has been left to a market-based laissez-faire system where the more well-funded and virulent strains seem to take over (as they more acutely embody the resentments of the masses).

Our constitution sucks. This form of representative democracy can't deliver anything except to keep us plodding along while the elites come and go --- judge, general, bureaucrat, politician --- with their major achievement being keeping Pakistan barely alive. And, believe me, they pat themselves on the back (genuinely) for this, thinking it's some kind of HUGE milestone. Pathetic. Great nations rise to complex challenges. Pathetic nations make excuses and lower their standards. We can still choose.


Good luck mate. It seems you are swimming in the sea of idiots. Must be extremely painful and frustrating to see the best of Pakistani minds are bunch of losers.
 
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Exactly.

Our basics aren't even aligned. It's a new 'elite' (not an intellectual elite with higher consciousness, but an 'establishment elite') that has simply replaced the British colonizing elite. The same exploitation continues.

As Noam Chomsky says about the US: it is one of the most free but also one of the most indoctrinated nations in the world. That means that everybody is "allowed" to publish such a thesis, but would find it incredibly hard to find an advisor willing to supervise it. So, these subtle mechanisms result in thought control and what he calls 'miseducation.' Essentially, these universities want to produce 'excellent sheep' who are what Nassem Taleb (of black swan fame) calls "intellectual-yet-idiots." They can't access a higher consciousness and see the world for what it is. They buy into the poster themes and superficial crap that they've been fed, and come out as conformist robots despite being highly intelligent individuals.

Long story short: if you can back up your claims intellectually, some departments are more sympathetic to such theses. There is nothing stopping anyone from going forward with this --- the tragedy is that 100% (note that I did not say 99.99%) of Pakistanis doing social science dissertations at top US/UK universities are ALL towing the narratives that they're being fed. Imagine how intellectually enslaved a nation has to be for its top minds (the undergraduate kids at Harvard from Pakistan, who are the best of the best academically from across Pakistan's best schools) called Hussain Haqqani as one of the main speakers for an event on Pakistan's challenges and future. A man who even most goraz privately acknowledge is a sellout and snake! Ye haal hai.

But it shouldn't be surprising. There is no compelling, competing narrative. There is no urgency felt by those in power to get a new 'intellectual elite' with a higher consciousness (by this I mean the ability to look beyond post colonial tropes and Western indoctrination) into government. There is no human capital strategy. Religion itself has been left to a market-based laissez-faire system where the more well-funded and virulent strains seem to take over (as they more acutely embody the resentments of the masses).

Our constitution sucks. This form of representative democracy can't deliver anything except to keep us plodding along while the elites come and go --- judge, general, bureaucrat, politician --- with their major achievement being keeping Pakistan barely alive. And, believe me, they pat themselves on the back (genuinely) for this, thinking it's some kind of HUGE milestone. Pathetic. Great nations rise to complex challenges. Pathetic nations make excuses and lower their standards. We can still choose.
Our system support the rich and feudal. Look at the next generation of Supreme Court judges, BA fail LLB pass ... SCBA is led by gangsters and goons.
Before Harvard grads used to qualify for CJ who published books on law and justice system . etc and now ....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1..


 
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Folks please and I say this to both Shias and Sunnis. Dont fall into the trap of this Shia - Sunni divide. We must in all circumstances avoid this disaster. Sunnis need to show magnanimity and Shias need to show deference. Otherwise our enemies all around us will cause havoc within us and this is truly the last major card they have.
I wouldn't say it's the last.
 
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Pak needs to go on the offensive, India and Iran need to feel heat. Otherwise these attacks will keep
happening, pointless having these huddles.
 
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You are talking about one jahil person who fled to UK and Uk gave him protection... right ?? ... why..What rest of Shia has to do what he is doing, should the rest of shia get punished for his personal act? do what the law says... throw him life in prison or hang him... there should be an extreme punishment for sectarian violence. Shahbaz Sharif stole billions of rupees and our FIA still looking for clues to arrest him ..... or judicial system is the biggest joke.
I believe you are a true Pakistani but sadly this is not the case with your community ...Shia community is controlled by Zakirs who are who are in direct confrontation with the rest...this is the issue....In a small country like Oman...everyone comes to the one mosque ...if someone does not like it...they can better stay at home. I agree with you on the point that basically there is no enforcement of the law.
 
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I believe you are a true Pakistani but sadly this is not the case with your community ...Shia community is controlled by Zakirs who are who are in direct confrontation with the rest...this is the issue....In a small country like Oman...everyone comes to the one mosque ...if someone does not like it...they can better stay at home. I agree with you on the point that basically there is no enforcement of the law.
Jahil mullah on both sides.. only education, ignore them, and walk away .. that is the best cure. If start arguing with them... they will beat you... you can't win.
 
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Pak needs to go on the offensive, India and Iran need to feel heat. Otherwise these attacks will keep
happening, pointless having these huddles.
Pakistan navy it seems has already taken revenge by drinking tea...
A very popular thread on it at the moment.
We are at par now. let peace prevail.
 
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Pakistan navy it seems has already taken revenge by drinking tea...
A very popular thread on it at the moment.
We are at par now. let peace prevail.
You Indians are delusional. PN handed your asses to you today. Looks like drinking Fantastic Tea is favorite hobby of your Armed Forces.
And “peace” wouldn’t prevail till you gangus get rid of your Nazi mindset.
 
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You Indians are delusional. PN handed your asses to you today. Looks like drinking Fantastic Tea is favorite hobby of your Armed Forces.
And “peace” wouldn’t prevail till you gangus get rid of your Nazi mindset.
I agreed. Your naval vessel showed our pollution control vessel its place.
Victory is yours.
 
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I agreed. Your naval vessel showed our pollution control vessel its place.
Victory is yours.
Yeah, looks like we have a habit of showing you Indians your place.
Last time, your Abhinandan got lost and we showed him the way back and offered him tea. Now your naval vessel.
Don’t worry, we will continue do so in future too. Cheers mate.
 
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