Hear the plight of a Pakistani Husband married to Uyghur Muslim woman

[Suriya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1059500130418622464

 

[waz]

Sad to see this, I hope the authorities in both countries help.

 

[Suriya]

Sad to see this, I hope the authorities in both countries help.

Yes , pakistani govt must intervene and help this man out .

 

[waz]

Yes , pakistani govt must intervene and help this man out .

I agree mate, all of them. You can't have a dude just sitting in the wilderness worried about his wife. if there's nothing wrong so where is she?

 

[khansaheeb]

We want to send a lot of our corrupt people to these Chinese camps too, more the merrier.

 

[GumNaam]

I'd like to hear the Chinese gov't take on this. No more playing that cliche victim card. There are literally thousands of Pakistanis married to Chinese Muslims and no one has been crying bloody murder. So what's going on under the hoods...the fact that the op is an indian and that too, one that is filled with hatred for the Muslims of Kashmir and yet, is here lactating blood and latte for the one Pakistani married to a uyguir woman in custody should be a pretty good indication about what's going on under the hoods...

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Chinese have shortage of girls due to the one child policy in the past and Uyghur girls are highly in demand.

 

[waz]

Chinese have shortage of girls due to the one child policy in the past and Uyghur girls are highly in demand.

Stop saying stupid things dude.....

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

Stop saying stupid things dude.....

I did not make it up. Here is the source.

http://www.atimes.com/article/beijing-accused-of-forcing-uyghur-han-intermarriages/

A post about a sad Uyghur bride marrying a Han man is claimed to be new evidence of Beijing's forced intermarriages in Xinjiang. Photo: Facebook screen grab
ASIA UNHEDGEDREAL-TIME INTEL ON WHAT MOVES MARKETS
Beijing accused of forcing Uyghur-Han intermarriages
Beijing is bent on 'racial cleansing' targeting Uyghurs in the name of social inclusion and assimilation, a rights group claims
By ASIA TIMES STAFF MAY 29, 2018 4:18 PM (UTC+8)

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A video clip of a gloomy bride, believed to be a young Uyghur woman, appearing to begrudge marrying her groom, a member of China’s predominant Han race, has been circulating online, with observers and Uyghur human-rights advocacy groups calling it more proof of Beijing’s callous bid to “attenuate” the Uyghur identity in Xinjiang.

The video is believed to have been taken in southern Xinjiang, a vast region that has been highly populated by Uyghurs in small communities since they were hived off in sweeping re-siting programs executed in the region’s capital Urumqi after the Communist Party’s takeover of China in 1949.

Talk to East Turkestan, a Xinjiang human-rights concern group, alleged on its Facebook page that the relatives of this Uyghur woman were held captive at an “ideological remolding camp” set up by local party cadres and she had to marry that Han man she had met just two months ago, for the safety and release of her family members.

The celebration of a marriage that was not at all euphoric was the latest evidence of Beijing’s systematic “racial cleansing” and “genocide,” the group claimed in a post.

The group also indicated that virtually all male Uyghurs would be incarcerated for education programs held at schools and government facilities for varying lengths.

A Uyghur man is seen in front of military police officers during a counterterrorism drill in Xinjiang. Photo: Reuters
The Munich-based World Uyghur Congress, made up of exiled Uyghur dissidents labeled by Beijing as separatists, told Hong Kong’s Apple Daily that Uyghurs had no tradition of intermarrying Han people but under Beijing’s scheme of forced assimilation, there had been such marriages in exchange for allowances or release of relatives locked up in “education” camps.

It’s said that courses in Mandarin language and Chinese history, as well as political pamphlets touting Communism and racial harmony, are offered at these camps to inculcate Beijing-decreed thoughts.

Beijing has claimed that these courses were intended to foster social inclusion and national identity and equip young Uyghurs with necessary language skills for their own career development.

Local authorities also dangle a host of perks and pecuniary aids, such as one-off cash handouts, housing allowances and baby bonuses totaling tens of thousands of yuan, to encourage intermarriages between different ethnic groups in Xinjiang.

Han people now make up around 38% of Xinjiang’s total population, which stood at 21.8 million last year. Other than Uyghurs, the region also has considerable diasporas of Kazakhs and Muslim Hui people.

 

[waz]

I did not make it up. Here is the source.

http://www.atimes.com/article/beijing-accused-of-forcing-uyghur-han-intermarriages/

A post about a sad Uyghur bride marrying a Han man is claimed to be new evidence of Beijing's forced intermarriages in Xinjiang. Photo: Facebook screen grab
ASIA UNHEDGEDREAL-TIME INTEL ON WHAT MOVES MARKETS
Beijing accused of forcing Uyghur-Han intermarriages
Beijing is bent on 'racial cleansing' targeting Uyghurs in the name of social inclusion and assimilation, a rights group claims
By ASIA TIMES STAFF MAY 29, 2018 4:18 PM (UTC+8)

• 0
• 0

A video clip of a gloomy bride, believed to be a young Uyghur woman, appearing to begrudge marrying her groom, a member of China’s predominant Han race, has been circulating online, with observers and Uyghur human-rights advocacy groups calling it more proof of Beijing’s callous bid to “attenuate” the Uyghur identity in Xinjiang.

The video is believed to have been taken in southern Xinjiang, a vast region that has been highly populated by Uyghurs in small communities since they were hived off in sweeping re-siting programs executed in the region’s capital Urumqi after the Communist Party’s takeover of China in 1949.

Talk to East Turkestan, a Xinjiang human-rights concern group, alleged on its Facebook page that the relatives of this Uyghur woman were held captive at an “ideological remolding camp” set up by local party cadres and she had to marry that Han man she had met just two months ago, for the safety and release of her family members.

The celebration of a marriage that was not at all euphoric was the latest evidence of Beijing’s systematic “racial cleansing” and “genocide,” the group claimed in a post.

The group also indicated that virtually all male Uyghurs would be incarcerated for education programs held at schools and government facilities for varying lengths.

A Uyghur man is seen in front of military police officers during a counterterrorism drill in Xinjiang. Photo: Reuters
The Munich-based World Uyghur Congress, made up of exiled Uyghur dissidents labeled by Beijing as separatists, told Hong Kong’s Apple Daily that Uyghurs had no tradition of intermarrying Han people but under Beijing’s scheme of forced assimilation, there had been such marriages in exchange for allowances or release of relatives locked up in “education” camps.

It’s said that courses in Mandarin language and Chinese history, as well as political pamphlets touting Communism and racial harmony, are offered at these camps to inculcate Beijing-decreed thoughts.

Beijing has claimed that these courses were intended to foster social inclusion and national identity and equip young Uyghurs with necessary language skills for their own career development.

Local authorities also dangle a host of perks and pecuniary aids, such as one-off cash handouts, housing allowances and baby bonuses totaling tens of thousands of yuan, to encourage intermarriages between different ethnic groups in Xinjiang.

Han people now make up around 38% of Xinjiang’s total population, which stood at 21.8 million last year. Other than Uyghurs, the region also has considerable diasporas of Kazakhs and Muslim Hui people.

It was proved fake. But I will agree that there is a slight shortage of women around, but that doesn’t mean they’re being kidnapped and married off.

 

[Jugger]

The Chinese are very heavy handed, although this might yield results now but will come back to bite in the future.

Mark my words..!

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

It was proved fake. But I will agree that there is a slight shortage of women around, but that doesn’t mean they’re being kidnapped and married off.

Asia Times is a reputable news portal. No one knows what is happening as freedom of press is curtailed in China.

Here you can see how dire is the situation of males not able to find girls.


https://sinosphere.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/10/26/china-polyandry-gender-ratio-bachelors/


Not Enough Women in China? Let Men Share a Wife, an Economist Suggests
BY DIDI KIRSTEN TATLOW OCTOBER 26, 2015 7:03 AM October 26, 2015 7:03 am
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Men playing xiangqi, a popular board game, in Beijing. By 2020, China will have an estimated 30 million bachelors.Credit Ed Jones/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

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One wife, many husbands.

That’s the solution to China’s huge surplus of single men, says Xie Zuoshi, an economics professor at the Zhejiang University of Finance and Economics, whose recent proposal to allow polyandry has gone viral.

Legalizing marriage between two men would also be a good idea, Mr. Xie wrote in a post that has since been removed from his blogs. (He has at least three blogs, and his Sina blog alone has more than 2.6 million followers.)

By 2020, China will have an estimated 30 million bachelors — called guanggun, or “bare branches.” Birth control policies that since 1979 have limited many families to one child, a cultural preference for boys and the widespread, if illegal, practice of sex-selective abortion have contributed to a gender imbalance that hovers around 117 boys born for every 100 girls.

Though some could perhaps detect a touch of Jonathan Swift in the proposal, Mr. Xie wrote that he was approaching the problem from a purely economic point of view.

Many men, especially poor ones, he noted, are unable to find a wife and have children, and are condemned to living and dying without offspring to support them in old age, as children are required to do by law in China. But he believes there is a solution.

A shortage raises the price of goods — in this case, women, he explained. Rich men can afford them, but poor men are priced out. This can be solved by having two men share the same woman.

“With so many guanggun, women are in short supply and their value increases,” he wrote. “But that doesn’t mean the market can’t be adjusted. The guanggun problem is actually a problem of income. High-income men can find a woman because they can pay a higher price. What about low-income men? One solution is to have several take a wife together.”

He added: “That’s not just my weird idea. In some remote, poor places, brothers already marry the same woman, and they have a full and happy life.”

Polyandry has been practiced before in China, particularly in impoverished areas, as a way to pool resources and avoid the breakup of property.

Yet much of the online response to Mr. Xie’s proposal has been outrage.

“Is this a human being speaking?” a user with the handle dihuihui wrote on Weibo.

“Trash-talking professor, many single guys want to ask, ‘Where’s your wife?’ ” a user who identified as Shanyu jinxiang1887003537 wrote.

Attempts to contact Mr. Xie on Monday were unsuccessful.

On Sunday, he published an indignant rebuttal on one of his blogs, accusing his critics of being driven by empty notions of traditional morality that are impractical and selfish — even hypocritical.

“Because I promoted the idea that we should allow poor men to marry the same woman to solve the problem of 30 million guanggun, I’ve been endlessly abused,” he wrote. “People have even telephoned my university to harass me. These people have groundlessly accused me of promoting immoral and unethical ideas.

“If you can’t find a solution that doesn’t violate traditional morality,” he continued, “then why do you criticize me for violating traditional morality? You are in favor of a couple made up of one man, one woman. But your morality will lead to 30 million guanggun with no hope of finding a wife. Is that your so-called morality?”

In addition to provoking guardians of traditional morality, the proposal has been pilloried by feminists and gay rights advocates.

“Men are publicly debating how to allocate women, as though women were commodities like houses or cars, in order to realize some grand political ideal originating from either the patriarchal left or the patriarchal right,” Zheng Churan, one of five women’s rights activists detained in March, wrote in an essay for a WeChat group called Groundbreaking.

“Behind the imbalanced sex ratio of 30 million bachelors lie 30 million baby girls who died due to sex discrimination. But somehow everyone’s still crying that some men can’t find wives.”

Mr. Xie also has supporters. On his Sina blog, he posted a comment from a student at Nanchang Hangkong University. “You are standing alongside the poorest working-class people,” the student wrote. “When there’s no better way, why don’t we get rid of so-called morality and solve society’s problems?

Vanessa Piao contributed research.

Follow Didi Kirsten Tatlow on Twitter @dktatlow.

 

[Cash GK]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1059500130418622464

give me his details

 

[grey boy 2]

Hopefully the word "Muslim" won't blind your judgement who this so-called victim is, please do check on the highlighted part of his tweet, does that tell you who he really is?

 

[Jackdaws]

I know these forums are filled with hate mongers. But in the real world when you meet Pakistanis in real life, they are inherently decent people and Indian and Pakistanis get along fine and even help each other a lot.

Can't say the same about the Chinese from the mainland. Kids who grew up in the West are westernized and people from Taiwan are OK. But you meet people from PRC and even if they outside of China, they will never criticize their Govt. Or speak ill of it.

So dont expect that in this forum at all.