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Yes, so my only question is why cant we Use it as a UCAV
One question..is IAI Harop reusable?i mean if they were send to search for terror camps and didnt find it..can it be landed again and used it for any other purpose??
No it is self destroyer
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if it then why not we use ucav or predator or may be lakshyaThere has to be some technology that can bring it back... like normal UAVs. maybe we will see it later
c) What you said happen in 1967 might be true...Just consider does it make sense for Pakistan to invest in R&D(which will take a lot of time and money to fructify) or shall it buy state of art weapons to counter Indian advancements(which as per them would be the need of the hour)??? Now replace India with China and Pakistan with India you will see a similar argument...Having said it we are slowly but surely moving towards being indegenous
d) Do you remember our pathetic loss in 1962 agasint China?? Had we invested in R&D thereafter vs buying state of art weapons from USSR we would have faced the same story in 1965...Don't you think so???
we dont need these items to win a war with our western neighbour.
we all are perhaps aware that chinese import of weapons has declined consistently for the past 5 years and ours has doubled, though one cant say so for the military/ economic strength. there is something gravely wrong with our approach. we better take corrective measures now otherwise we will end up being the world's arms dustbin
And i agree 100% on it...I would go on to say we needed a shock like Kargil to have a dent on that phyche..Mind it its just a dent...any sane person would have been blown away...Anyways atleast the dent has made us move in the right direction....ok, I will answer one by one in short. Short answer is "corruption" & "chalta hai" attitude in MoD babus.
Long answer goes like this. -
Delays are due to bureaucratic culture. ISRO is also run by Government. why it doesn't fail or have massive delays? Answer is, the difference between DRDO and ISRO's hierarcy. ISRO is under PM Office, it doesn't have to wait years for every small sanction on project matters or day to day issues. But in DRDO's case, it is under MoD(a ministry with 100 fools who think they understand science better than junior scientists in DRDO).
Thats one reason why DRDO walks like a thirsty dog.
The day Complete Autonomy is given to DRDO management(which has most scientists) as compared to MoD babus(arrogant fools) who control DRDO, you will see DRDO completing projects faster and even better than imports.
Thanks...Let me reply back as well...I have answered "delay" part of your question. Now I will focus on where Army fits into this "delay" problem.
First thing is, home-grown R&D is must. You can't substitute it with imports. Yes, you should import if home projects are taking time. Every country does that. But things are different in India's case. Like, those countries never divert funds to imports from home-projects. India does.The first is okay, but the second is a scam.
And, Armed forces are also partly responsible for that because they were the ones who supported stopping funding of HAL's Aircraft research division in 1967. Because, these Armed forces said - "Russians are good. We don't need waste funds on domestic projects. Close it."
They lacked the vision. They realized the mistake in 1987 and asked HAL to restart work on Indian Fighter programme.
What HAL had left after 20 years to start with? ZILCH. They had no base, because most of aviation scientists left the job in 1967 and migrated to USA. Now these same morons in IAF,MoD blame DRDO, HAL for old-technology and delays.
There is one more reason why Indian Armed forces are known as "killers of DRDO" -
They refuse to work closely with DRDO on floor, which is standard practice in developed countries. US Armed force has done more work with Lockheed martin than what IAF ever did with HAL other than blaming them in public, like kids. That shows communication gap between IAF and developers.
Not sure if i agree there...In fact people seems to have realized this mistake and if you og by reports you tend to get an inclination that there is more co-operation between Army and DRDO...Though the pace and effectiveness is debatable....Today, the basic issues are still same. The fact is that, MoD and IAF are filled with short-sighted people who think they are "experts" but lack genuine temperament to understand how "innovation" processes work.
Thankfully, US Airforce is not dumb like Indian forces, who start blaming scientists on delays but rather they take steps to work closer with them to solve and rectify issues.
By the way, every imported Russian weapon system paid babus in MoD. So, no wonder LCA is lagging so much.
Compare what LCA got in total funding till today(3 Billion dollars) over 20 years and how much India paid to Russia in 20 years. You will get the mystery behind failure of DRDO.
There has to be some technology that can bring it back... like normal UAVs. maybe we will see it later
India is not Pakistan. India and China are two civilizations. Pakistan is not. Its a rented-state. Can you explain what similarity you found between India & Pakistan?
Harop is an outdated idea.
Just because its from Israel, its blurring the thoughts of people and everyone is jumping to conclusion, "hey..its made by Israel!! its the best!!". Noone cared to analyze whether it fits the bills and use in India's scenario.
There are better ideas around which are not being explored because they don't involve "kickbacks" to Mod babus. If project goes to any Indian company(TATA) or DRDO, babus get no "bribe" and all this dogma of "antony" is a purified and holy saint, doesn't make sense.
If India can reach moon, then it doesn't take 10 years to modify Lakshya into "drop-bomb and return" mode.
Why noone talks about trasnferring Lakhya to TATA to convert it into Loiter-And-Attack Mode? Because, it pays noone.
Lakshya will die similary just as TATA's samyukta EW system was killed & was refused funding for making advanced version(competition for Israeli AWECS), despite being matching in quality & performance to "imported" Israeli version.
Its plain case of one more import to the long list of toys, adding more attractions into republic parade.
Harop is an outdated idea.
.Just because its from Israel, its blurring the thoughts of people and everyone is jumping to conclusion, "hey..its made by Israel!! its the best!!". Noone cared to analyze whether it fits the bills and use in India's scenario
There are better ideas around which are not being explored because they don't involve "kickbacks" to Mod babus. If project goes to any Indian company(TATA) or DRDO, babus get no "bribe" and all this dogma of "antony" is a purified and holy saint, doesn't make sense.
If India can reach moon, then it doesn't take 10 years to modify Lakshya into "drop-bomb and return" mode.
Why noone talks about trasnferring Lakhya to TATA to convert it into Loiter-And-Attack Mode? Because, it pays noone.
Lakshya will die similary just as TATA's samyukta EW system was killed & was refused funding for making advanced version(competition for Israeli AWECS), despite being matching in quality & performance to "imported" Israeli version.
Its plain case of one more import to the long list of toys, adding more attractions into republic parade.
May i ask a simple question...How much money and time do you think will take Lakshya to be converted into a UCAV like predator???
If India can reach moon, then it doesn't take 10 years to modify Lakshya into "drop-bomb and return" mode.