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Happy independence day!

It is part of the historical record that Gilgit & Baltistan people threw out Dogra Army on their own initiative and invited Pak forces to assume control of the region. As a Pakistani; no more & no less; I salute people of Giligit & Baltistan for their valour and love of Pakistan.

I have however been greatly disturbed by the rise of Takfiris in post Zia Pakistan and was worried that extremist forces led by TTP & Lashkar Jhangvi and their supporters in the form of JI leaders like Munawwar Hassan would continue punishing people of Gigli & Baltistan for the crime of being Shia until they are eliminated or migrate to some other place. Thankfully leadership of Gen Raheel Sharif has stemmed the tide to a great extent and Taliban Khan’s adoration of TTP also appears to be on the decline.

Another good tiding was virtual wash-out of the JI in the recent local bodies’ election. Hope that Jamaat Islami cadres realize the harm done to their popularity by their bigoted ex-Amir Munawwar Hassan.

Tourists killed at north Pakistan mountain camp - BBC News

Pakistan Shias killed in Gilgit sectarian attack - BBC News

Blast in passenger van kills three in Gilgit - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
The whole of Pakistan has, is suffering from mistakes made by Zia..Due to the recent effort change is quite visible in the whole country and tourist are always provided with extra security in GB.
Tourism in G-B experiences revival this year
Moving onto the sectarian violence it has almost completely died out, due to the efforts of the army. Unfortunately we have such elements who want to create a sectarian war. Good news and have a nice day. Hope in a couple of years the whole of Pakistan is as safe as GB..
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Independence day with in an Independent country. How many Independence days ? We have our independence day on 14th August. What is the point of celebrating GB independence on 1st Nov or Baluchistan independence on 11th Aug ?

Most of us Pakistanis would like to celebrate this day and any day as independence for Balochis for Punjabis, for Pakhtoons, for Baltis, for any region and any people of Pakistan we wish to celebrate, you minority can suck on this. The point is people like you suck but we don't care to stop our celebrations.

@WAJsal great article thanks for sharing it, I honestly did not know the significance of this day. Happy belated Independence day to Gilgit and Baltistan. And may that region prosperous. Ameen.
 
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Most of us Pakistanis would like to celebrate this day and any day as independence for Balochis for Punjabis, for Pakhtoons, for Baltis, for any region and any people of Pakistan we wish to celebrate, you minority can suck on this. The point is people like you suck but we don't care to stop our celebrations.

I never said not to celebrate. I simply asked what is the point of celebrating so many independence days when our independence day is on 14th Aug ? What is the point of getting aggressive ?
 
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Gilgit Baltistan has not a single independence day instead GB was not one political body within J&K. Some were part of Ladakh, other were known as Gilgit Wazarat, Gilgit Tehsil, Gilgit Agency, frontier tribal areas of Darel Tangir, Hunza, Nagar principalities. Haramosh Valley was then part of Ladakh. So different dates based on day of separation from J&K.Rongyul (Commonly known as Roundu-subdivision of Skardu)was separated several months before rest of Baltistan.Khapulo resisted due to family relationship and alliance with Gyalpo of Leh(Capital of Ladakh) so it took few more months So different dates for different regions.
1-Nov-1947--------For Gilgit
14-Aug-1948-------------For skardu
 
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No la barar awa bo busy astam, will be sure to not miss it. What was the topic and etc,etc details, please do tell? i am curious.
1. We are part of kashmir issue
2. Seat in Parliament doesn't mean we will be empowered. Eg. we are 100-200 years ahead of Kohistan and Chitral.
3. Birjees Tahir is better than local governors because he has strong ties in federal. He is better because he has authority.
4. Birjees Tahir saves us 5 Lakh every month and comes to GB house once in a while which saves some bucks too.
5. PMLN has done marvelous things in GB and we are doing great in GB.
6. We wont let India exploit sectarian and political issues.
 
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While fighting occupation forces people of Gilgit-Baltistan baltistan lacked heavy equipment. With airfields in enemy's control, PAF undertook a daring mission to help brave Baltis fighting for their freedom.


Flt Lt Khyber Khan, a flying instructor at Risalpur carried a heavy mortar in the rear cockpit of his T-6G trainer aircraft and landed at an unprepared strip near Gilgit. Mortar was loaded onto a Bactian camel and transported to Skardu which was still under occupation. It played an important role in the battle for Skardu Fort which was finally freed by gallant liberation forces.
@WAJsal

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happy belated Independence day :cray: ....i saw the thread couldn't respond as was caught up with few things at work.....
always wanted to visit this place, and Inshallah will try to go next spring....need to explore this beauty before i embark on a journey to foreign lands
Got you with the title...:lol:
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Today is quite a historic day for Gilgitis, as today our forefathers drove the occupying forces out and liberated Gilgit Baltistan on ! November 1947 . 15 days later acceding to Pakistan. Thought i'd add this to your knowledge...

Images will come through, will post it every now and then..
and add by Pakistan government :lol: in K2(look at the bottom of the page): Daily K2
Huge credit goes to GB scouts, which is now part of NLI(northern light infantry) and is doing a great job in keeping law and order in the region.

In details:
The entire north-west of the Indian sub-continent was, in the autumn of 1947, aflame with communal riots. In October 1947, the disturbances spread to the State of Jammu and Kashmir also. The Gilgit area of the state had an overwhelmingly Muslim population, made up of turbulent hill-men. The position was complicated by the existence of the semi-feudal principalities of Chitral, Hunza, Nagar etc which had been brought under Dogra rule in the 19th Century.

In July 1947, Gilgit was still being administered by the Government of India, to whom it had been made over by the State Government on lease for 60 years. The departure of the British from India being imminent. Colonel Roger Bacon, then Political Agent in Gilgit, that the Viceroy Lord Mountbatten, had decided (for reasons which were not clear to Bacon and which are still not clear) that the 1935 British lease of the Gilgit Agency fiom the Maharaja of Jammu & Kashmir (a lease which still had 49 years to run) was going to be terminated and that the Agency, with a 99% Muslim population, was going to be returned to the Hindu rule of the Dogra Maharaja Sir Hari Singh. Late in July 1947, the State Government appointed Brig Ghansara Singh, one of the most senior officers of the State's Force, to be the Governor of Gilgit. He flew to Gilgit on 30 July 1947 and took over the administration from Lt Col Bacon, the British Political Agent, on 01 August 1947.

Of the subordinate chiefs under the Governor of Gilgit, namely, the Mir of Hunza, the Mir of Nagar, the Raja of Punial, and the chieftains of Koh Ghizar, Yasin, and Ashkoman, only the Mirs of Hunza and Nagar were hostile.

Their hostility proved very damaging, for three-fourths of the men of the Gilgit Scouts came from Hunza and Nagar.

The two British officers of the Gilgit Scouts whose services had been retained by the State, namely Major WA Brown and Captain Matheson, proved themselves inveterately hostile to Jammu & Kashmir State and took the leading part in the pro-Pakistan treachery at Gilgit. The predominantly Muslim civil employees of the Government of Gilgit were also pro-Pakistan and they backed the demands of the Scouts for special rates of pay and other concessions for serving the Jammu & Kashmir State soon after Brig Ghansara Singh took over charge.

It should be noted, however, that the Gilgit Scouts and the local people were still free from the violent communal passions then sweeping through the Punjab and did not favor killing or converting by force the non-Muslims at Gilgit.

Not the State's own Muslim troops. Gilgit area was garrisoned by 6 J&K Infantry, less than two companies with Headquarters at Bunji, about 54 kms from Gilgit on the road to Srinagar. Commanded by Lt. Col Abdul Majid Khan, the battalion was composed of Muslims and Sikhs in almost equal proportions. The Sikhs, according to the Commanding Officer, were raw recruits and were not fit for active duty for the next 5-6 months, till they had fired their musketry course. The Muslim companies had men from Punch and they having heard all about the horrible communal killings in Punjab, were in a violently communal frame of mind.

Wild rumors raged in Gilgit in the last week of October when the tribal invasion of Kashmir began. The common people remained friendly, but there was clear evidence that Major Brown and Sub Major Babar Khan of the Scouts were planning some trouble. Some locals advised the Governor to call up 6 J&K Infantry from Bunji, but Brig Ghansara Singh realized that State Force's Muslim men were as disaffected as and more violent than the Scouts. The Sikhs of 6 J&K Infantry could not be called up due to the opposition of Lt. Col Abdul Majid Khan, the Commanding Officer.

At about midnight between 31 October-1 November 1947, about 100 men of the Gilgit Scouts, led by Major Brown, Lieut Haidar Khan and Sub Major Babar Khan, surrounded the Governor's house and tried to steal in to capture him in sleep. He woke up, however, and started using his revolver, backed up by his orderly and driver who were handed a double-barrel shotgun and a sporting rifle.

The Scouts then opened machine gun fire on the house. Exchange of fire went on for several hours, and two men of the Gilgit Scouts were killed. The following morning the governor had no choice but to surrender, the Governor surrendered and was put under arrest.

The local people protested against this, and villagers from the surrounding areas began to gather in Gilgit. The Scouts' leaders managed  to pacify them and sent them away, but probably this demonstration of the people's affection saved the Governor and other non-Muslims from being murdered in cold blood. Lt Col Abdul Majid Khan, the CO of 6 J&K Infantry, was also imprisoned by the Gilgit Scouts and their British officers.

The entire Gilgit region passed into the hands of Pakistan early in November 1947. At first a provisional Government was formed, of which the leaders were Major Brown, Captain Hassan, Captain Ehsan Ali, Captain Muhammad Khan, Captain Sayeed, Lieut Haidar, and Sub Major Babar Khan.

On 3 November 1947, Major Brown held a flag hoisting ceremony at Gilgit in the Socut Lines. After about a fortnight, one Sardar Mohammad Alam, a Pathan and obviously a nominee of Pakistan, came from Peshawar and took over the administration as Political Agent at Gilgit.
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A government was set up-which decided to acceded to Pakistan, in accordance to the will of the people. Mirs signed similar accession paper and were telegraphed to Pakistani representative, who accepted this accession.
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In more details here: How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated .

@Neutron ,@Slav Defence ,@Icarus ,@haviZsultan ,@Bratva ....
 
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happy belated Independence day :cray: ....i saw the thread couldn't respond as was caught up with few things at work.....
always wanted to visit this place, and Inshallah will try to go next spring....need to explore this beauty before i embark on a journey to foreign lands
No worries, happy to add to your knowledge. Did you know that after 15 days of Gilgits independence it became a part of Pakistan. Give the OP a read very informative.
While fighting occupation forces people of Gilgit-Baltistan baltistan lacked heavy equipment. With airfields in enemy's control, PAF undertook a daring mission to help brave Baltis fighting for their freedom.


Flt Lt Khyber Khan, a flying instructor at Risalpur carried a heavy mortar in the rear cockpit of his T-6G trainer aircraft and landed at an unprepared strip near Gilgit. Mortar was loaded onto a Bactian camel and transported to Skardu which was still under occupation. It played an important role in the battle for Skardu Fort which was finally freed by gallant liberation forces.
@WAJsal

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thank you for the information.
Gilgit Baltistan has not a single independence day instead GB was not one political body within J&K. Some were part of Ladakh, other were known as Gilgit Wazarat, Gilgit Tehsil, Gilgit Agency, frontier tribal areas of Darel Tangir, Hunza, Nagar principalities. Haramosh Valley was then part of Ladakh. So different dates based on day of separation from J&K.Rongyul (Commonly known as Roundu-subdivision of Skardu)was separated several months before rest of Baltistan.Khapulo resisted due to family relationship and alliance with Gyalpo of Leh(Capital of Ladakh) so it took few more months So different dates for different regions.
1-Nov-1947--------For Gilgit
14-Aug-1948-------------For skardu
Thank you for the information. Have a nice day...
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That is not correct, legally speaking, Sir.
It is still disputed i know, it's common sense come on. It did formally came under Pakistan's control, or did it not? don't have to be so persistent. :-)
 
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It is still disputed i know, it's common sense come on. It did formally came under Pakistan's control, or did it not? don't have to be so persistent. :-)

Yes, GB is under Pakistani control. That is correct.
 
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Happy Belated independence day to brave people of GB. Always proud of you guys. :tup:

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