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Ok the title is not by me but by the author, seems he is responding to PDF :P

http://indianexpress.com/article/en...-movie-is-not-all-wrong-historically-2947992/


Hrithik Roshan's Mohenjo Daro: It’s a challenge to make such films as it requires a lot of research, which takes time. But time and research should not be a problem for director Ashutosh Gowariker.

Written by Prabhash Kumar Dutta | New Delhi | Updated: August 1, 2016 9:55 pm
mohenjo-daro-costume_759.jpg
Trailer of Hrithik Roshan’s Mohenjo Daro looks too good for a Bollywood flick. Its only problem could perhaps be that it talks about history.
Ashutosh Gowariker is evolving as the leading period film director in Bollywood. After Lagaan and Jodhaa Akbar, his Hrithik Roshan, Pooja Hegde-starrer Mohenjo Daro is ready for release. It’s a challenge to make such films as it requires a lot of research, which takes time. But time and research should not be a problem for Gowariker. Mohenjo Daro is his eighth film in 23 years.

His directorial debut was Pehla Nasha in 1993. Deepak Tijori, Raveena Tandon and Puja Bhatt-starrer did not do well. Regular Bollywood themes have not worked for Gowariker; he thrives on ‘the other genre’ of filmmaking.

Trailer of Mohenjo Daro looks too good for a Bollywood flick. Its only problem could perhaps be that it talks about history. The trailer begins with a layout of town-planning followed by a seal, actually recovered from Mohenjo-daro, which was one of the largest cities in the world some 4,000 years ago. Along with Harappa (in Pakistan), Dhaulavira (Gujarat) and Rakhigarhi (Haryana), Mohenjo-daro formed an urban framework of what we know as the Indus Valley Civilization.

Besides the seal, the trailer of Mohenjo Daro shows the Great Bath of the ancient city. It has been constructed on the sets the way it might originally have been. The director seems to have studied the evidence from excavation very minutely here.

mohenjo-daro-movie-stills-3.jpg
Besides the seal, the trailer of Mohenjo Daro shows the Great Bath of the ancient city.
Waterways were the highways during the Indus Valley period, Hrithik Roshan is shown coming to Mohenjo-daro on a fleet of boats. The director is again right on the money. But, the trailer shows that Gowariker has taken much artistic liberty in reconstructing the city and people of Mohenjo-daro. The discrepancy begins with the name Mohenjo Daro itself.

Mohenjo-daro was the name given by the East India Company’s engineers in 1856 when they were laying rail lines between Karachi and Lahore. The ruins of the cities provided ballast for the rail tracks. Local people had been using the bricks produced some four thousand years ago in building their homes in the 19th century. Locally, Mohenjo-daro means the city of dead. No living city would name itself as such. Everyone in the film calls it by this name.

Walls of the cities shown in the trailer are too massive and high for the evidence, the historians have found during excavations. The elite portion of the city was built on a raised platform, which was certainly not a walled city.

Hrithik Roshan is wearing a turban and, his dress resembles 20th century clothing more than that of what people wore in the ancient Mohenjo-daro wore. It is true that the Indus people were the first to use cotton as a fabric but large scale production of cloth seems improbable. Also, the technique of stitching arrived in India 2.5 millennia later the least. The male figurines recovered from Mohenjo-daro have a cloth draped around them and not wearing dresses the way we do now or Hrithik does in the film.

mohenjo-daro-movie-stills-1.jpg
Hrithik Roshan dress resembles 20th century clothing more than that of what people wore in the ancient Mohenjo-daro wore.
Men and women of Mohenjo-daro wore jewellery. But, gold jewellery has not been found. Pooja Hegde is wearing gold. Her dressing is also exquisite, more to soothe our perception about some distant past than to suit the evidence collected from Mohenjo-daro or its contemporary Indian cities.

Kabir Bedi plays the ruler of the city and he is wearing a headgear, which our TV serials and childhood cartoons symbolised with demons. Such headgears were probably not used in Mohenjo-daro. People of Mohenjo-daro were thought to be peace-loving as instruments of warfare have not been found. The kind of metallic weapons used in the film was certainly not available then. Use of horse as utility or war animal is not proven from evidence. But, Gowariker fits them to suit our perception of olden days’ practice.

mohenjodaro-759.jpg
The kind of metallic weapons used in Mohenjo Daro was certainly not available then. Use of horse as utility or war animal is not proven from evidence.
The Indus script has not been deciphered yet and historians have no idea which language people of the time spoke. So, we don’t know who actually ruled over those massive cities. The uniformity in town planning, drainage system, pottery style and housing pattern across several cities indicate towards a central rule. But, who ruled them is not clear. Kabir Bedi is playing a dictator but historians’ guess is that a guild of merchants might have ruled over those cities.

History apart, the trailer of Mohenjo Daro is immaculate. Hrithik is used to playing a superhero. He seems to be carrying it out nicely in Mohenjo Daro, but minus Rakesh Roshan effect this time. Mohenjo Daro should be an interesting watch.
 
Ok the title is not by me but by the author, seems he is responding to PDF :P

http://indianexpress.com/article/en...-movie-is-not-all-wrong-historically-2947992/


Hrithik Roshan's Mohenjo Daro: It’s a challenge to make such films as it requires a lot of research, which takes time. But time and research should not be a problem for director Ashutosh Gowariker.

Written by Prabhash Kumar Dutta | New Delhi | Updated: August 1, 2016 9:55 pm
mohenjo-daro-costume_759.jpg
Trailer of Hrithik Roshan’s Mohenjo Daro looks too good for a Bollywood flick. Its only problem could perhaps be that it talks about history.
Ashutosh Gowariker is evolving as the leading period film director in Bollywood. After Lagaan and Jodhaa Akbar, his Hrithik Roshan, Pooja Hegde-starrer Mohenjo Daro is ready for release. It’s a challenge to make such films as it requires a lot of research, which takes time. But time and research should not be a problem for Gowariker. Mohenjo Daro is his eighth film in 23 years.

His directorial debut was Pehla Nasha in 1993. Deepak Tijori, Raveena Tandon and Puja Bhatt-starrer did not do well. Regular Bollywood themes have not worked for Gowariker; he thrives on ‘the other genre’ of filmmaking.

Trailer of Mohenjo Daro looks too good for a Bollywood flick. Its only problem could perhaps be that it talks about history. The trailer begins with a layout of town-planning followed by a seal, actually recovered from Mohenjo-daro, which was one of the largest cities in the world some 4,000 years ago. Along with Harappa (in Pakistan), Dhaulavira (Gujarat) and Rakhigarhi (Haryana), Mohenjo-daro formed an urban framework of what we know as the Indus Valley Civilization.

Besides the seal, the trailer of Mohenjo Daro shows the Great Bath of the ancient city. It has been constructed on the sets the way it might originally have been. The director seems to have studied the evidence from excavation very minutely here.

mohenjo-daro-movie-stills-3.jpg
Besides the seal, the trailer of Mohenjo Daro shows the Great Bath of the ancient city.
Waterways were the highways during the Indus Valley period, Hrithik Roshan is shown coming to Mohenjo-daro on a fleet of boats. The director is again right on the money. But, the trailer shows that Gowariker has taken much artistic liberty in reconstructing the city and people of Mohenjo-daro. The discrepancy begins with the name Mohenjo Daro itself.

Mohenjo-daro was the name given by the East India Company’s engineers in 1856 when they were laying rail lines between Karachi and Lahore. The ruins of the cities provided ballast for the rail tracks. Local people had been using the bricks produced some four thousand years ago in building their homes in the 19th century. Locally, Mohenjo-daro means the city of dead. No living city would name itself as such. Everyone in the film calls it by this name.

Walls of the cities shown in the trailer are too massive and high for the evidence, the historians have found during excavations. The elite portion of the city was built on a raised platform, which was certainly not a walled city.

Hrithik Roshan is wearing a turban and, his dress resembles 20th century clothing more than that of what people wore in the ancient Mohenjo-daro wore. It is true that the Indus people were the first to use cotton as a fabric but large scale production of cloth seems improbable. Also, the technique of stitching arrived in India 2.5 millennia later the least. The male figurines recovered from Mohenjo-daro have a cloth draped around them and not wearing dresses the way we do now or Hrithik does in the film.

mohenjo-daro-movie-stills-1.jpg
Hrithik Roshan dress resembles 20th century clothing more than that of what people wore in the ancient Mohenjo-daro wore.
Men and women of Mohenjo-daro wore jewellery. But, gold jewellery has not been found. Pooja Hegde is wearing gold. Her dressing is also exquisite, more to soothe our perception about some distant past than to suit the evidence collected from Mohenjo-daro or its contemporary Indian cities.

Kabir Bedi plays the ruler of the city and he is wearing a headgear, which our TV serials and childhood cartoons symbolised with demons. Such headgears were probably not used in Mohenjo-daro. People of Mohenjo-daro were thought to be peace-loving as instruments of warfare have not been found. The kind of metallic weapons used in the film was certainly not available then. Use of horse as utility or war animal is not proven from evidence. But, Gowariker fits them to suit our perception of olden days’ practice.

mohenjodaro-759.jpg
The kind of metallic weapons used in Mohenjo Daro was certainly not available then. Use of horse as utility or war animal is not proven from evidence.
The Indus script has not been deciphered yet and historians have no idea which language people of the time spoke. So, we don’t know who actually ruled over those massive cities. The uniformity in town planning, drainage system, pottery style and housing pattern across several cities indicate towards a central rule. But, who ruled them is not clear. Kabir Bedi is playing a dictator but historians’ guess is that a guild of merchants might have ruled over those cities.

History apart, the trailer of Mohenjo Daro is immaculate. Hrithik is used to playing a superhero. He seems to be carrying it out nicely in Mohenjo Daro, but minus Rakesh Roshan effect this time. Mohenjo Daro should be an interesting watch.
what matters most is what religion they have depicted in the movie
 
Oh the irony.....99 percent of baratis have nothing in common with mohenjodaro.
100 percent of wannabe Arabs have nothing to do with Mahenjo Daro either

Ontopic: Another cheesy, stupid bollywood movie with bizarre songs and dances which has nothing to do with the history
 
they were dravidian people.. and nearly half of Indians are dravidian.. we got genetic connection.. :)
they should have used a south Indian actor like siddharth or suriya or even vijay ... instead of darkening hritik's face.

That is an already debunked theory.

Dravidians are thought to have migrated from Elam or the Fertile Crescent while people of the Indus migrated via sea route from Oman.

They are two distinct people.

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Another misconception among many Indians seem to be that early Dravidians were dark skinned; in reality - they would've resembled something close to Elamites (the people of the region they migrated from) physical features did not change (including skin color) until they began to mix with australoids in south India.

100 percent of wannabe Arabs have nothing to do with Mahenjo Daro either

Ontopic: Another cheesy, stupid bollywood movie with bizarre songs and dances which has nothing to do with the history
Who said we are wannabe Arabs? I only seem to hear this from Indians and no one else.

But yes; both genetically and geographically, we have everything to do with IVC and Mohenjo Daro - as explained by the map above.
 
Mohenjo-daro was the name given by the East India Company’s engineers in 1856 when they were laying rail lines between Karachi and Lahore

Mohen jo Daro name was given by locals. Means "mounds of the dead".

But, gold jewellery has not been found

It has been.

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Use of horse as utility or war animal is not proven from evidence.

Horse was introduced after IVC in this region.

Kabir Bedi is playing a dictator

There was no dictator in IVC.

they were dravidian people.. and nearly half of Indians are dravidian.. we got genetic

Seriously now? Here is the genetic make up. Show me link of dravidian and Sindhis?

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Unless you believe every inhabitant of IVC migrated (show me the proof?). And if they did, they encountered sudden amnesia? They forgot everything?Not a single planned city in entire India except for regions adjacent to Pakistan?

Please start taking pride in what you guys really are.
 
Mohen jo Daro name was given by locals. Means "mounds of the dead".



It has been.

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Horse was introduced after IVC in this region.



There was no dictator in IVC.



Seriously now? Here is the genetic make up. Show me link of dravidian and Sindhis?

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Unless you believe every inhabitant of IVC migrated (show me the proof?). And if they did, they encountered sudden amnesia? They forgot everything?Not a single planned city in entire India except for regions adjacent to Pakistan?

Please start taking pride in what you guys really are.
bla bla bla.. sindhis are not ivc people nor are gujjus(where significant number of sites located).. which planned city are you talking about? how are they related to ivc planning(continuity).. If India builds a pyramid does it mean we are Egyptians?

That is an already debunked theory.

Dravidians are thought to have migrated from Elam or the Fertile Crescent while people of the Indus migrated via sea route from Oman.

They are two distinct people.

7087a8943ea8.jpg


Another misconception among many Indians seem to be that early Dravidians were dark skinned; in reality - they would've resembled something close to Elamites (the people of the region they migrated from) physical features did not change (including skin color) until they began to mix with australoids in south India.


Who said we are wannabe Arabs? I only seem to hear this from Indians and no one else.

But yes; both genetically and geographically, we have everything to do with IVC and Mohenjo Daro - as explained by the map above.
ah ok.. you might be right...:)
 
That is an already debunked theory.

Dravidians are thought to have migrated from Elam or the Fertile Crescent while people of the Indus migrated via sea route from Oman.

They are two distinct people.

7087a8943ea8.jpg


Another misconception among many Indians seem to be that early Dravidians were dark skinned; in reality - they would've resembled something close to Elamites (the people of the region they migrated from) physical features did not change (including skin color) until they began to mix with australoids in south India.


Who said we are wannabe Arabs? I only seem to hear this from Indians and no one else.

But yes; both genetically and geographically, we have everything to do with IVC and Mohenjo Daro - as explained by the map above.
Lmao I said wannabe Arab, how did you conclude I was talking about you? Are you an arab wannabe?
 
bla bla bla.. sindhis are not ivc people nor are gujjus(where significant number of sites located).. which planned city are you talking about? how are they related to ivc planning(continuity).. If India builds a pyramid does it mean we are Egyptians?


ah ok.. you might be right...:)


So all the IVC people migrated to India? Why? Proof? History records no such mass migration.

They end up in India but suddenly forget everything? Town planning, script on seals etc? How?

Why would people living in such advance civilization migrate towards such backwards areas? Have a look what region at that time looked like and what people of today's India were doing at that time.

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So these people built world's most spectacular planned city and then decide to move to India (for what?) and then forget everything?! They don't even remember there were cities like these ever existed on earth. When they start writing their religious script or any script for that matter, they don't make a single mention of these man-made marvels?! Show me an ancient script of yours which mentions Indus Valley cities (not the Saraswati which is nature made and would be for everyone to see or know). Show me a single valid Indian writing before British discovered IVC sites, that you guys would have claimed or mentioned IVC?! During British and Sultanate era would be perfect. No? And when British find it you suddenly recall now Indus your mother and not Ganges?
 
Question to all the south Indians:

If IVC was dravidian, why do we fail to see dravids produce their own civilization after the collapse of IVC? If they had the ability to create, we would see them do it over and over again.


Contrast this with us North Indians. When IVC fell, we built the Vedic civilization. When the Vedic declined we built the Mauryan and spread North Indian culture around Asian and to the dravids.
 

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