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old cheap tactics from indians.. in order to hide their embarrassing failure regarding tejas they alwaz involve thunder just to satisfy their ego..:blah::lol:
 
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You have missed some other points
DESIGN --- CHINESE
TESTING --- CHINESE
MANUFACTURE --- CHINA
PAINTING --- PAKISTAN ;)

I disagree with this analysis....Manufacturing will be done in Pakistan. And ohh you forgot one more critical thing.... Pakistan has spent many years of hard work and too much brain farting in making a decision to incorporate French avionics in JF17 ...only to find that French has shown the finger.:D
 
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old cheap tactics from indians.. in order to hide their embarrassing failure regarding tejas they alwaz involve thunder just to satisfy their ego..:blah::lol:

we are not hiding our failures its very difficult to build a aircraft for the first time we don't have experience of US or RUSSIA .the design and development were indigenous but some parts were foreign even if you take saab gripen many parts are from us and European
 
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old cheap tactics from indians.. in order to hide their embarrassing failure regarding tejas they alwaz involve thunder just to satisfy their ego..:blah::lol:

did Paf invole in any testing phase in jf-17 i mean weapon, radar, night testing etc...... and plz come up with proper link. it make by china and test by Chinese parameter after all done by Chinese they given you.
 
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old cheap tactics from indians.. in order to hide their embarrassing failure regarding tejas they alwaz involve thunder just to satisfy their ego..

Who said u tejas is a failure .......

it passed all tests thrown before it....

and will be getting IOC in no time !!!

as for the jf 17 ahem ahem it hasn't given any(tests) !!!!!!!!

did Paf invole in any testing phase in jf-17 i mean weapon, radar, night testing etc...... and plz come up with proper link. it make by china and test by Chinese parameter after all done by Chinese they given you.

thats bcoz they badly need it !!!!
 
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Every plane on this planet, apart from US and Russia is a mixture of indegenous and foreign parts....

The basic logic that every plane maker has while making the plane depends on required technology and available resource.
Eurofighter has American software, Gripen has American tech, France gained its knowledge from earlier experience with EU and US, everything is interlinked...

The funiest part is even US stealth design is based on a Russian research in 80s, when the lack of super computers prevented Russia to make a stealth plane and they abandoned the tech. Americans advanced on that tech to make F117...thats when the angled surface calculations came into picture.

Dont believe it??....google it.

If anyone calls LCA is not indegeneous then I will call Gripen, Eurofighter and all other plane are not also indegeneous.

and the point what Iam trying to give here is it doesnt matter how many parts are indegenous, because that doesnt actually mean the country is unable to make such tech. It just depends on time to bring that tech to surface and use it, and by collaboration u just reduce that time....

India has already fielded AESA radar for its AWACS program, she is just working on a miniaturized version and that will be flown soon...Same with every country, even China, Russia and US....everyone evolves..

I call that wise thinking.........

The bottom line today the worl knows that we have fielded a 4th gen plane, and in a year or two it will be a 4++ Gen plane, whether someone agrees or not....doesnt matter..

Its owners pride and neighbours envy....;)
 
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If anyone calls LCA is not indegeneous then I will call Gripen, Eurofighter and all other plane are not also indegeneous.

EFT isn't indigenous ...its a jv
 
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well the main thing is we need lca at time in Indian sky

we have to work with lca version

as Pakistan is getting f16 from usa and other planes from china and rest of world

no doubt we have to think how we will counter both china and Pakistan air force the worst condition
 
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Its owners pride and neighbours envy....

hahaha well said..BTW Shiv aroor has something to reveal today about AESA radar and AEWCS ...keep an eye on livefist..
 
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hahaha well said..BTW Shiv aroor has something to reveal today about AESA radar and AEWS ...keep an eye on livefist..

u mean aesa and "aewc's" ??
 
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sorry to go off thread guys but is india developing "any" directed energy weapon ???

plzz tell.......
 
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yes dear..keep refreshing the page..
 
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sorry to go off thread guys but is india developing "any" directed energy weapon ???

plzz tell.......

Developing ?

yes,
We are working on all kinds of cool stuff.

Do they have anything to show, as a weapons system ?

no.

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Sure you can find the info on what we are working on.

A short range laser to detonate IED.
A directed energy system that will eventually be part of our BMD.

Those are the only two i know definitively ,

Shiv Aroor also claims , one of FMBT concepts involves a laser system to shoot down enemy missiles.
Which is frankly a pipe dream at this point of time

This stuff is more or less a long time away.
 
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LiveFist - The Best of Indian Defence: EXCLUSIVE: India's LCA AESA Radar Programme Detailed
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The images above, seen here for the first time, are from official material on the Indian AESA radar project for the LCA Tejas, shared with LiveFist. Indian state-owned radar developer Electronics R&D Establishment (LRDE) is in the process of identifying a development partner (DP) for an indigenous AESA radar for future tranches of the Tejas and the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) and is likely to make a final decision shortly. The radar has begun development in the country. According to official updated material made available to LiveFist, the fully solid-state X-band radar is being developed with the following modes:

Air-to-Air: Multi-target detection and tracking / Multi target ACM (Air-to-Air combat mode) / High resolution raid assessment

Air-to-Ground: High Resolution mapping (SAR mode) / AGR – Air to Ground Ranging / RBM – Real Beam Mapping / DBS – Doppler Beam Sharpening / Ground Moving Target Indication (GMTI) / Ground Moving Target Tracking (GMTT) / Terrain Avoidance (TA)

Air-to-Sea: Sea search and multi target tracking / Range Signature (RS) / Inverse Synthetic Aperture Radar (ISAR)

As I've reported here before, the development partner that LRDE identifies will be responsible for "detailed design, development and realisation" of (a) antenna panel constisting of main antenna, guard antenna and sidelobe cancellation antenna, (b) transmit/receive modules/groups, (c) RF distribution network consisting of RF manifold/combiners, RF interface, (d) antenna/beam control chain consisting of T/R control and T/R group control, and (e) array calibration/BITE among other areas.

:tup::tup::tup::tup::tup:
 
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Good but no mention of time frame. So like always we expect it on 202. . :undecided:
 
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