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[Jayanta]

LCA too lethal in the air, US air force don't dare to engage in a dogfight.

 

[HariPrasad]

concept lca+pakfa stealth aircraft nice thinking it can b done in future tejas program

Look at the landing gears. they are moved to Wing root like Gripen. It is believed that it will liberate a lots of usable space in fuselage. Atleast 1200 liters of additional fuel tank shall be added. Avionocs shall get compact will liberate additional space. Readjustments of LRUS will take place. There will be an elevated cockpit and plug in fuselage as well as radome. Tejas will loose weight if ELTA 2052 is integrated.There will be arrow Delta Wing in place of cranked Delta wing

 

[sincity]

Don't be too uptight, I'm singing praise of the LCA.

 

[HariPrasad]

Can we use Trishul technology to Develop a short range missile? We used the same in LRSAM and Astra?

 

[Black Widow]

In another word, LCA as of now is good enough to replace Mig 21, as its a point defense fighter. Nothing else.

You Got it wrong, LCA is good enough to replace a point defense fighter (Which in our case is MiG21). The Primary role is point defense.

A Low cost fighter which can relieve Heavy fighters(Like F15, Su27) to concentrate on deep penetration.

My statement doesn't infer that LCA is just good as MiG21.

Addition to this, if needed LCA can act as a fighter bomber (Like Mirage2000H) without any escort (like Mig29 did for M2000H During Kargil War)...

The primary role of this small bird is point defense, and these will be placed/stationed at forward bases, where it can fly immediately to neutralize a threat..

Hope it is clear now.. (Having said that, I am sure I can't convince Chinese members)

 

[kurup]

Can we use Trishul technology to Develop a short range missile? We used the same in LRSAM and Astra?

I think we are using some technology from Trishul in Maitri missile being developed with France .

 

[HariPrasad]

I think we are using some technology from Trishul in MR-SAM being developed with france .

It is Maitri and mot MR SAM. MRSAM is developed with Israel. Maitri is a very potent missile and can certainly a Ato A version can be developed.

You Got it wrong, LCA is good enough to replace a point defense fighter (Which in our case is MiG21). The Primary role is point defense.

A Low cost fighter which can relieve Heavy fighters(Like F15, Su27) to concentrate on deep penetration.

My statement doesn't infer that LCA is just good as MiG21.

Addition to this, if needed LCA can act as a fighter bomber (Like Mirage2000H) without any escort (like Mig29 did for M2000H During Kargil War)...

The primary role of this small bird is point defense, and these will be placed/stationed at forward bases, where it can fly immediately to neutralize a threat..

Hope it is clear now.. (Having said that, I am sure I can't convince Chinese members)

I heard an interview of test pilot of Tejas. He said that the planes Ground Bombing and fighting capabilities are equally appreciable. He sad that both are 50-50.

 

[Black Widow]

I heard an interview of test pilot of Tejas. He said that the planes Ground Bombing and fighting capabilities are equally appreciable. He sad that both are 50-50.

Yes I agree. But my personal opinion is, LCA will be used 2 way
1. Point defense fighter
2. Once Air Superiority or Air Dominance achieved by Su27s/F15/MiG29 , ground attack.


Again this is my personal view and opinion.. one can free to differ..

 

[kurup]

It is Maitri and mot MR SAM. MRSAM is developed with Israel. Maitri is a very potent missile and can certainly a Ato A version can be developed.

Thanks for the correction .

Editing my post .

 

[PoKeMon]

Seems like there will be multiple iterations on LCA. I wonder if this will impact AMCA design in the future. Are the LCA scientists and engineers now back to work on their previous projects that they had to drop after being recruited to only work on LCA?

To be frank AMCA dont really exist. Nothing significant have been done in this project. HAL can not take that many projects simultaneously. We are still active in MKI production, LCA Mk II is in line, then we have NLCA, Rafale and FGFA. We might re start working on AMCA from 2020 onwards, till then a small scale work on design may continue.

Right now priority is given to LCA, get the fighter in minimal operative condition as Mk I and start developing Mk II. I wont say iterations, may be additions. Apart from increase in fuselage and tweak in air intakes to accommodate new engine, there wont be much changes. Its just addition of capabilities and integration of more lethal arms.

 

[SQ8]

You mean JFT can't cross 17* AOA? Seriously? I haven't been paying attention with all the modi bashing going on

I wonder where he dug up that figure.

unlike some so called 4th generation which can not exceed 17* AOA.

I wonder how some copy paste enthusiast came up with that figure?

 

[SQ8]

Now you are not a copy pest enthusiast like me, Pl provide the AOA figure of JF 17 which is hardly discussed in any forum of forms a part of official release like Tejas. A lots of Horrible facts of JF 17 is available here.

Pakistani JF-17 A Thunder OR A Blunder | ASIAN DEFENCE NEWS

Based on opinion of one biased person whose blog is full of baseless self made figures.. you biased as you are .. are forwarding it. Hence it makes me think if ANY of your posts has anything of actual information other than copy paste loghorrea.. a term that means information dioherria.. whether that information is actually correct or not.

There is NO AoA figure of JF-17 provided..not even in official briefing by PAC nor by the Chief designer.. and yet you have chosen to state that fact.. and still believe BS.. Bravo Hari...there is something called nationalism.. and there is something called blind jingoistic idiocy.

Hence all you are going is looking around to diss the JF-17 without proof or anything. So I think it best to ban you from all aviation threads so you stop your repetitive parroting of baseless figures.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Based on opinion of one biased person whose blog is full of baseless self made figures.. you biased as you are .. are forwarding it. Hence it makes me think if ANY of your posts has anything of actual information other than copy paste loghorrea.. a term that means information dioherria.. whether that information is actually correct or not.

There is NO AoA figure of JF-17 provided..not even in official briefing by PAC nor by the Chief designer.. and yet you have chosen to state that fact.. and still believe BS.. Bravo Hari...there is something called nationalism.. and there is something called blind jingoistic idiocy.

Hence all you are going is looking around to diss the JF-17 without proof or anything. So I think it best to ban you from all aviation threads so you stop your repetitive parroting of baseless figures.

I don't know what is supposed to be so mysterious and secreteive about giving AOA figures?

 

[sancho]

Take a look at this.

The usual Ajay Shukla reports, with a lot of mistakes when it comes to air force matters.

Tejas has the potential to do what IAF wants. It would have to evolve to do so.

MK1 after FOC will be able to do what IAF wants it to do, provide air defence and CAS. The MK2 is meant to improve the performance in these roles, not to do them in general.

Oh!.. I don't know how to handle such posts...

F16 Blk-52 and LCA are different class fighters. Infact both are used for different role in IAF and PAF. There is no point in comparing both.

Actually PAF and IAF will use them in the same roles and there is no issue in comparing them, the difference is only that the F16s overall performance is better (payloads, weapon load configs, speed, range...), but there are fields where the LCA is already superior to PAFs F16s too (RCS, HMS + HOBS, EWS and in operational terms of course also the costs).
Not even MK2 will be able to surpass the F16s in the overall comparison, but will increase the fields where it holds advantages especially in A2A roles.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I have a dumb question. If Tejas will take time to come in, why are we selling Sukhois? Let the newer plaforms be in service till the new squadrons come in?

What Sukhois is India selling? Of you're referring to the ex-IAF MKs the Russians are possibly selling to the Angolans then this has ZERO to do with India. These birds were sent back to the Ruskies a long time ago when the full-spec MKIs were delivered.