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This is the biggest problem with the Indian work culture. In regard to the steel for ship building, it did not take much effort by India to make it locally, but they only did it after nobody will sell to them. Why can't they first try to make stuff rather than buying which they can very well make.
 
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Israeli Derby to be Prime BVRAAM for Tejas MK-1 | idrw.org

Indian air force has cleared proposal to equip Tejas MK-1 with Israeli Derby BVR Air to Air missile, and Government of India will Shorty sign a contract with the makers of the missiles Rafael Advanced Defence systems soon.

Tejas MK-1 which has a hybrid radar based on Israeli Elta’s 2032 radar and Indian technology seems to be the prime reason behind the selection, although DRDO is working on developing a home grown Air to Air Missile under Astra Project, but it seems that missile will take time to carry out all its test parameters and currently has been integrated with Sukhoi su 30 MKI aircrafts only and will also see first firing of the missile in mid of 2012.

Astra BVRAAM should be ready by the time Tejas MK-2 enters production, but major chunk of the testing of the missile will be done from Sukhoi su 30 MKI. Indian navy already operates Derby BVRAAM on its SEA Harriers aircrafts, which under limited upgrade program was equipped with Elta 2032 radar, along with Derby BVRAAM.

Sources close to idrw.org also have told us that Python-5 might be also be considered for Tejas MK-1 for meeting short range Air to Air missile ,Russian R-73 was successfully had been integrated with Tejas MK-1, but it seems some issues might have surfaced due to which air force is also interested in Israeli Python-5 .
 
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That said ..... ADA / HAL / DRDO must deliver on quality.

We have the luxury of having Su-30MKIs, Rafales etc to keep the IAF flying till a worthy LCA is developed.

Let them take the time and resources (off course, under the scrutiny of press and IAF) ..... but IAF must keep it's requirements stringent.

LCA must win against western fighters ... on capability and cost. Should have a USP (unique selling proposition).

It should have something which should make it winnable in aircraft competitions like those which we held for MMRCA.

In short, it should emulate the successes of HAL Dhruv, Akash missile (including Rajendra radar), lately Arjun tank .... and coming up induction of NAG, pinaka etc.

We don't want flying junks in the air, such as WWW-10 etc. (###### have no option but to fly them premature .. since they can't buy from pretty much anybody now, russians included).

Please dont bring others in this thread. They have there philosophy, we have ours. We follow A guideline where we develop then test then use it. Where as other do different.

lets focus on our strength rather than there weakness.
 
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Kaveri turbofan programme seeks extension

...As things stand, the Kaveri has completed close to 60 hours of flight-testing at the Gromov institute, the highlight of which was the use of a fully indigenous FADEC. However, the flight testing phase has also accentuated the engine's fundamental problems that have kept it in development for so long. Adding to a littany of woes, compounded by overall insufficient performance parameters, are problems in the turbine and fan assemblies, possibly structural issues as well...

...Negotiations on technology sharing and intellectual property have taken the better part of the two years, though a top official confirmed that a contract between DRDO and Snecma is likely to be signed within the year...

...DRDO sources confirm that Snecma will transfer several key technologies as part of the joint engine programme, which include single crystal blades, bladed disk and EBPVD (electron beam plasma vapour deposit coating), all critical areas that the Kaveri engine has failed to find solutions to within the country, though not for lack of trying. Programme managers believe single crystal blade technology will be a major solution to one of the Kaveri's biggest problems — deformation of bladesduring testing as a result of high ambient temperatures. This has proved to be a severe limiting factor, considering that structurally solidified blades have structural integrity that comes nowhere close to single crystal structures...

...The tie up with Snecma will launch the Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) into an all-new league, and will involve modern forging, welding and casting techniques for the first time. Unlike the Kaveri K9 programme, the K10 programme (the official designation for the proposed effort with Snecma) will be professionally monitored from the outset, with hard timelines and investments...

Kaveri turbofan programme seeks extension - SP's Aviation


Finally they understood that GTRE is not able to do it and how important good planning is for such a development. Both key problems in the LCA project!
 
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I dont know why he had to be embrassed by it... I meant about Shiv of live fist..

The Singapore Air Show earlier this month had an Indian pavilion that was stuffed with these clunky Tejas models and little else.Not quite sure why the government bothers to book space and go to the effort at all if this is all it can really come up with. Embarrassing.I have friends who went round to see. Livefist reader Pradeep Yamujala was kind enough to send me these photographs he took while he was at the show.

u mean this ..may be govt has cancled his tickit to singapore :P
 
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^^LIAR LIAR , not exactly a good one arent you !!!
 
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LCA(the least combatable airplane) is APPARENTLY a junk compared to J10A. j-10 is the same standard with Rafale, LCA is nowhere near pass. LCA is a melting pot consited of different components and parts from all over the world, it is not a par with JF17 let alone J-10A, which is a 4.5 generation plane recognized by the world. Not to offend, just tell the truth.

Comparing a medium class aircraft with a light class aircraft...do you know anything about aviation?

It is like saying a 747 can carry more people than a 737.
 
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At least you people could put some advance weapons on model to make general impression of ADVANCE MULTIROLE FIGHTER.
What it holds dumb bombs, fuel tanks, SRAAM which are of no value now days. Just Lightning POD and LGB doesn't change the image because almost every Multirole fighter in the word is capable of carrying these goodies.
Poor marketing, i say or HAL not focusing on foreign sale.
 
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At least you people could put some advance weapons on model to make general impression of ADVANCE MULTIROLE FIGHTER.
What it holds dumb bombs, fuel tanks, SRAAM which are of no value now days. Just Lightning POD and LGB doesn't change the image because almost every Multirole fighter in the word is capable of carrying these goodies.
Poor marketing, i say or HAL not focusing on foreign sale.


Take your ignorant comments elsewhere, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Of course what is presented on a model in a airshow is a summary of all the LCA can do-NOT!!
 
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Take your ignorant comments elsewhere, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Of course what is presented on a model in a airshow is a summary of all the LCA can do-NOT!!

what about the possibility of making an appearance in Farnborugh airshow? not the static one but a flight display!!
that will be interesting
 
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