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[Han Patriot]

To be in Service you have to produce them first! what is the production rate?

I see UCAV being discussed!!!!!!! did i missed some thing?

Well, after saying it is 4.5 gen some are equating it to UCAV. LOL

 

[Han Patriot]

Mate Canard is a french word...which means duck..

In aeronautics, canard (French for duck) is an airframe configuration of fixed-wing aircraft in which the forward surface is smaller than the rearward, the former being known as the "canard", while the latter is the main wing.

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There are 2 types of canards namely the lifting canard and the control canard...the ones you see i Fighters are control canards.

If you want to know more about lifting canard you can read about MiG 8 Utka. Close coupled canards are used in IAI Kfir, and thhe SAAB Viggen

Hey don't argue with me, argue with the dictionary. It says it is a wing. I rest my case. Don't have to overwhelm the post with Kfir, SAAB bla bla bla. The point is the dictionary just said that. See the word 'main wing' in your wikipedia source?

If there is only one wing, why do you need a main wing? You mean we can't control wings?

 

[satishkumarcsc]

ca·nard (k-närd)
n.
1. An unfounded or false, deliberately misleading story.
2.
a. A short winglike control surface projecting from the fuselage of an aircraft, such as a space shuttle, mounted forward of the main wing and serving as a horizontal stabilizer.
b. An aircraft whose horizontal stabilizing surfaces are forward of the main wing.

canard - definition of canard by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

a false or baseless, usually derogatory story, report, or rumor. that also means canard...and now i see your obesession with canard.
So what do you say about this?

a small wing-like projection attached to an aircraft forward of the main wing to provide extra stability or control, sometimes replacing the tail.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/canard

You still needmore dictionaries for reference?

 

[Han Patriot]

Your argument has little or no basis. Just because the Tejas and mirage 2000 lack canards. Great.
But the reality isn't what YOU make of it.
The research and development of the Tejas is a mixture of the technologies available since the late 80's. The Tejas unlike the mirage 2000 is highly unstable unlike the mirage 2000, which is why it has reduced top speeds.

You can believe whatever you want, but the point is until now you haven’t address my questions. You know, there is a saying, the more you ask, the more you learn and the more your learn, the more you ask. Is’t the new perspective I brought refreshing? Instead of continuously believing in DRDO’s ‘feel good’ propaganda, now you see things in a more critical manner.

Of course the LCA is not an exact replica of the M2K, but until now you still can’t explain the involvement of Dassault and hell, the plane looks exactly like M2K? Again I restate the same question I asked over and over again, any plane that looks like the LCA other than the M2K?

and indian was part of the development of the f-16xl. you want to spin my words around than your an ignorant idoit.
I didn't cliam anything like a 4.5 gen aircraft. you brought it up.
You chinese like to cliam everything is china is super power, if it was the Pakistani's wouldn't have modified the jf-17 and the Type 90. THey are not buying chinese things as is. Because we all know the truth.

Now, now, now. Don’t have to be frustrated just because you can’t answer my question. Does it erode your confidence in India? LOL. Maybe you might have misunderstood, in my post I said Indians, and yes that might have included you. So I reckon you don’t believe it is a gen 4.5 plane? BRAVO! At least you are sane on this. It is a Mig-21+ aircraft!

Can you tell me how much did Pakistan modified? What they modified? Why they modified? I heard SU-30MKI did’t contain all Russian products either. What does this imply? I am not saying Chinese avionics are superior but I am saying they are not too far behind either. I heard India bought a few billion worth of ‘advanced’, ‘state of the art’, ‘sophisticated’ ULTRA SUPER CRITICAL POWER EQUIPMENT from us. Again what does this imply? We are talking billions here….

Again I am repeating my question … who is this Indian involved in F-16XL? What was his involvement? Out of the hundreds of people involved, what is his role?

Helmet mounted display sight (HMDS) differs from HMS which is just a targeting input device on use first on the mig29 usually heat guided.
HMDS is whats used on the jsf project and replaces the convientional HUD. The tejas uses the same but keeps the HUD as well.
If china produces HMDS great, but i highly doubt it does.

Read this genius >

A helmet mounted display (HMD) is a device used in some modern aircraft, especially combat aircraft. HMDs project information similar to that of head-up displays (HUD) on an aircrew’s visor or reticle, thereby allowing him to obtain situational awareness and/or cue weapons systems to the direction his head is pointing. Some applications refer to these devices as Helmet Mounted Sight and Display (HMSD) or Helmet Mounted Sights (HMS).

 

[Han Patriot]

ca·nard (k-närd)
n.
1. An unfounded or false, deliberately misleading story.
2.
a. A short winglike control surface projecting from the fuselage of an aircraft, such as a space shuttle, mounted forward of the main wing and serving as a horizontal stabilizer.
b. An aircraft whose horizontal stabilizing surfaces are forward of the main wing.

canard - definition of canard by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

a false or baseless, usually derogatory story, report, or rumor. that also means canard...and now i see your obesession with canard.
So what do you say about this?

a small wing-like projection attached to an aircraft forward of the main wing to provide extra stability or control, sometimes replacing the tail.

definition of canard from Oxford Dictionaries Online

You still needmore dictionaries for reference?

Again I am repeating my question, what does wing like mean?

1) It functions like a wing?
2) It looks like a wing?

I took my source from a dictionary calling it a wing. You took one calling it wing-like. And besides, notice the word main wing appearing over and over again? My point is again why do you need a main wing if you only have one wing? So don't argue with me, argue with the dictionary.

I am not obsessed with canards, but some here are claiming canards have insignificant purpose and we should only compare with the 'wings'. My point is they are wings, but not main wings. They function as controller and lifting structures. Aren't wings that can manipulate air flow wings? You mean wings are always static?

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Again I am repeating my question, what does wing like mean?

1) It functions like a wing?
2) It looks like a wing?

I took my source from a dictionary calling it a wing. You took one calling it wing-like. And besides, notice the word main wing appearing over and over again? My point is again why do you need a main wing if you only have one wing? So don't argue with me, argue with the dictionary.

I am not obsessed with canards, but some here are claiming canards have insignificant purpose and we should only compare with the 'wings'. My point is they are wings, but not main wings. They function as controller and lifting structures. Aren't wings that can manipulate air flow wings? You mean wings are always static?

You ned to learn english! period!

 

[desimorty]

Now, now, now. Don’t have to be frustrated just because you can’t answer my question. Does it erode your confidence in India? LOL. Maybe you might have misunderstood, in my post I said Indians, and yes that might have included you. So I reckon you don’t believe it is a gen 4.5 plane? BRAVO! At least you are sane on this. It is a Mig-21+ aircraft!

Can you tell me how much did Pakistan modified? What they modified? Why they modified? I heard SU-30MKI did’t contain all Russian products either. What does this imply? I am not saying Chinese avionics are superior but I am saying they are not too far behind either. I heard India bought a few billion worth of ‘advanced’, ‘state of the art’, ‘sophisticated’ ULTRA SUPER CRITICAL POWER EQUIPMENT from us. Again what does this imply? We are talking billions here….

Again I am repeating my question … who is this Indian involved in F-16XL? What was his involvement? Out of the undreds of people involved, what is his role?

i don't know. but are your basis any better?
but why don't you take your logic and fill in the gaps.
but if the tejas got the nose canards which was a earlier concept for the naval version, i guess than it won't be a mirage right?
while the chinese can build a canard under military embargos,
indians can't build a canard, thats why they have a simple mirage
lol
maybe you should consider the difference in performance of the two.
cause things can look the same but function differently in the air.
y

 

[Abingdonboy]

Does anyone know which prototype the HMDS was intergrated? And will this be standard for ALL LCA (MK1+2)??

2.29:

 

[sancho]

Does anyone know which prototype the HMDS was intergrated? And will this be standard for ALL LCA (MK1+2)?

Israeli Dash helmet is integrated now, but it's not clear if that will be the final version for all LCAs. Another possibility is the French Topsight HMS, that will be used by IAF upgraded Mirage 2000-5s and Mig 29 SMTs, as well from IN Mig 29Ks.

 

[desimorty]

The only HMDS avaliable on the market as of yet.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I believe it is the TopSight-I:

But regardless of which HMDS it is, is it assured the LCA will come with HMDS as standard? I would expect it as by then pretty much ALL IAF AC will have HMDS similar to above (MKI, UPG M2k, UPG MiG29, MMRCA, PAK-FA/FGFA, AMCA etc)

+ btw any more info/specs on above HMDS??

 

[fast]

You ned to learn english! period!

And you nEed to learn spelling!

 

[SpArK]

ASPJs Developed For Tejas Mk1 & MiG-29UPG
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The Ministry of Defence-owned Defence Research & Development Organisation’s Defence Avionics Research Establishment (DARE) has developed a family of internally-mounted self-protection jammers in cooperation with Italy’s Elettronica for installation on board the upgraded MiG-29UPG and the Tejas Mk1 light combat aircraft.

Being part of the integrated defensive aids suite (IDAS), the jammers are lightweight and compact, yet powerful, and are meant to be targetted against continuous wave (CW), pulse and pulse-Doppler emitters. At the heart of the capability is a digital, software reprogrammable radio frequency memory (DRFM) that is used to deceive and jam coherent multimode airborne radars.

The DRFM incorporates both the RF and memory sections required for digitising and storing signals of interest, as well as the techniques generator. On the MiG-29UPG, the jamming suite uses Elettronica of Italy’s Virgilius family of directional jammers, which make use of active phased-array transmitters for jamming hostile low-band (E-G) and high-band (G-J) emitters.

Other systems features include a wide- and narrow-band signals reception, monopulse amplitude direction-of-arrival, direction-finding, threat identification/classification capabilities, a multi-domain (range, velocity, noise and amplitude) techniques generator, CW and pulse repeater channels, a steerable combined output signal, interfaces for a countermeasures dispensing system, host platform avionics in-flight data recording for post-mission debriefing and maintenance, and field-programmable threat library.


The EW suites for both aircraft types receive emitter signals within the 2GHz to 18GHz band and transmit across the 6GHz to 17.5GHz frequency range. The MoD-owned Bharat Electronics Ltd (BEL) is presently series-producing the jamming suites as well as the related radar warning receivers.


For escort jamming purposes, the Tejas Mk1 and MiG-29UPG are expected to be equipped with ELTA Systems’ EL/L-8251 jamming pod, which offers wide frequency coverage between 1GHz and 18GHz.

 

[sancho]

For escort jamming purposes, the Tejas Mk1 and MiG-29UPG are expected to be equipped with ELTA Systems’ EL/L-8251 jamming pod, which offers wide frequency coverage between 1GHz and 18GHz.

http://www.iai.co.il/sip_storage/files/9/36129.pdf


Interesting, but we should wait till there are more infos, or official reports for these articles. It would make more sense to use the MKI, or MMRCAs with such dedicated jamming pods in escort roles.

 

[Black Widow]

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IAF has ordered 40 LCA MKI, what is the status, till when the HAL will deliver these 40 birds (in phased manner), and is it possible that MK-II will be ready by the time Aseembly line will be free.?????