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[casual]

should have bought more f16s

 

[satishkumarcsc]

yaaa thats true but

"with the indigenous Kaveri engine failing to pass muster despite Rs 2,839 crore being spent on it since 1989."

this really hurts....

Hey French tried for 20 years to develop the M-88 engine. And still it gives only 85kn thrust. We are talking about Snecma here. Remember? Rafale first flew with F 404 engines.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

should have bought more f16s

Why would we have to buy more F 16s which our rival has been using for more than 3 decades? Only a nincompoop would.

 

[casual]

Why would we have to buy more F 16s which our rival has been using for more than 3 decades? Only a nincompoop would.

compares f16 and LCA side by side

ok whatever you say

 

[satishkumarcsc]

compares f16 and LCA side by side

ok whatever you say

The F 16 right now costs more than $60 mil an airframe and with the weapons come upto $80 mil. I rather go for an F 18 E/F SH. You must remember the newer versions of the F 16s are not aircrafts that belong to the 'light' category but they are medium weight aircrafts.

Comparing both will be like comparing apples to oranges.

 

[Gabbar]

compares f16 and LCA side by side

ok whatever you say

Would you stop pitching F-16s. You were also doing same thing in LCA thread as well. Do you work for Lockheed Martin or something?

 

[AUz]

Whatever guys..LCA project is still much better than JF-17 Thunder project..



bhartis please thank me for this honest and true post

 

[angeldemon_007]

What is the progress of our AESA and kaveri-snecma projects ??/

 

[Hulk]

Ok here is my take.
Is LCA in current form 4th generation? No. But who told it is completed FOC? At FOC it will be 4th generation and that matters.

Now it takes time to manufacture planes, in next 2 years we will maufacture 40 of them, while parallely integrate BVR and other stuff.

After 2 years, when we have integrated BVR, we will update the software of all 40 of them, so yeah after 2 years all 40 of them will be BVR capable. Whats the problem.

@AJTR, Antony might be pushing for indigenisation, what's wrong in that? If we do not give our R&D a chance we will never grow.

 

[aimarraul]

Indian Air Force on Monday began the process to induct indigenously built light combat aircraft (LCA) Tejas.
The limited series production of the aircraft was granted initial operational clearance (IOC) by defence minister AK Antony, with part compliance of parameters vis-a-vis air staff requirementsof the IAF.

IOC comes after 27 years of conceptualising the programme. The historic flights were flown by Group Captains Thomas and Tyagi.

IAF would get two more LCAs by June 2011 and two by the year end. With Rs12,000 crore spent on the development of Tejas, it still has only 60% indigenous content, said DRDO chief Dr VK Saraswat. He said by the time the aircraft gets its Final Operational Clearance (FOC), expected in December 2012, it would be over 75 % indigenised.

IOC would allow the IAF to have the aircraft inducted in its squadrons and its personnel fly the aircraft for training purposes. An IOC declared fighter is ready to perform all functions except go into battle. Only after the FOC does an aircraft become battle-worthy, as FOC certifies its weapons-delivery.

Air Chief Marshal PV Naik termed it a low-end aircraft, short of the Swedish Gripen NG aircraft, in the single-engine category, and said as it develops it would reach the fourth generation status and would fill in the numbers required, as a medium and low-end category aircraft.

Antony who handed over the IOC certification to the Air Chief, said, “after crossing a number of challenges and accomplishing a significant series of milestones of envelop expansion, sensor integration and weapon delivery in over 1,500 sorties, the country is poised for a major turning point with the declaration of the IOC.”

According to former air chief FH Major it is a milestone for the IAF to achieve the IOC for Tejas. The first squadron of the LCA comprising 20 aircraft would be delivered by 2015. It would be powered by the American engine GE404IN20, as would be the next 20 aircraft. However, the next batch will be powered by GE-414.

The plan is to build 200 LCAs, 140 for the IAF and the remaining for the navy. Each fighter aircraft costs Rs200 crore, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited chairman Ashok Nayak said.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

and the trolling starts.....

 

[graphican]

I think you can give India its due credit for LCA.. they have taken so long but atleats they have made something which IAF is ready to accept.

 

[ares]

I find this criticism by Pakistani members similar to their criticism of Indian satellite programme(ie duped in hypocrisy) when Indian satellite fails .

It easy point and laugh, but they can't even create propeller driven aircraft on their own.

And if JF-17 is their benchmark then India has been doing JF-17 like TOT productions since 1961.

 

[CardSharp]

I find this criticism by Pakistani members similar to their criticism of Indian satellite programme(ie duped in hypocrisy) when Indian satellite fails .

It easy point and laugh, but they can't even create propeller driven aircraft on their own.

And if JF-17 is their benchmark then India has been doing JF-17 like TOT productions since 1961.

QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

 

[ares]

QUOTED FOR TRUTH.

Well you can call it join venture..if you like.. but Pakistani contribution to it remains surprisingly small, especially considering the claim,"they both pitched 50-50 for it."