HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions

[satishkumarcsc]

major defect with RD93 is that it will leave out a black smoke as exhaust fumes so no need for a radar tracker a soldier with shoulder fire anti aircraft missile can fire at it........... so its good for us..........

So even our MiG 29s have the same problem. RD 93 is a smoky engine...accepted. But it aint that easy to fire a MANPAD at any aircraft that easily.

 

[sudhir007]

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Nation

The Indian Air Force would have to wait for another 10 months or a year for the induction of indigenously developed light combat aircraft Tejas, it has been learnt. While earlier the aircraft was slated to be inducted into the IAF by March 2011, now even the clearance to operationally fly the fighter may not be available by this period.

There has been a delay in the completion of the Tejas project and the aircraft was not likely to meet the March 2011 deadline, as had been announced by Defence Minister AK Antony, sources said.

A meeting of the Parliamentary Consultative Committee on Defence was held yesterday and the members were informed that the LCA (Tejas) was approaching the initial operational clearance scheduled for December, but the final operational clearance — after which it would be inducted into the IAF — may only be possible by next year-end, the sources said.

After the operational clearance, the first lot of fighters would be handed over to the Air Force. Subsequently, a series of tests would be conducted. A review is being conducted by the IAF Chief every quarter to check the progress on Tejas, the sources said.

Notably, a contract for the procurement of 20 Tejas was allotted to Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) on March 31, 2006. The total contract cost was Rs 2,701 crore. The delay in LCA production was primarily due to refinements carried out in the development phase. A total of Rs 1,712 crore has already been paid to HAL till 2009-end.

The delay in the project was due to certain technical complexities and denial of critical technology, including the fly-by-wire system, that keeps the fighter stable as its takes twists and turns, it has been learnt. The programme was originally envisaged some 25 years ago.

Meanwhile, Antony yesterday told the Parliamentary Consultative Committee that the Ministry would be making all efforts to create an environment for speedy indigenisation of defence systems and platforms. Certain policy decisions were on the anvil to give a big boost to the defence industry and for the production of futuristic weapon systems within the country. The meeting reviewed the performance of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

The DRDO is working on various projects like LCA, aero-engine, electronic warfare system, long-range and medium-range missiles, early warning systems, low intensity conflict technologies, radars, armament systems, etc.

Meanwhile, members of Parliament have expressed concern over the cost and time overruns for different projects. The DRDO was asked to come back with the detail of cost and time over-runs for each project and the reasons for the delay, the sources said.

 

[INDIAN007]

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Nation

The Indian Air Force would have to wait for another 10 months or a year for the induction of indigenously developed light combat aircraft Tejas, it has been learnt. While earlier the aircraft was slated to be inducted into the IAF by March 2011, now even the clearance to operationally fly the fighter may not be available by this period.

There has been a delay in the completion of the Tejas project and the aircraft was not likely to meet the March 2011 deadline, as had been announced by Defence Minister AK Antony, sources said.

A meeting of the Parliamentary Consultative Committee on Defence was held yesterday and the members were informed that the LCA (Tejas) was approaching the initial operational clearance scheduled for December, but the final operational clearance — after which it would be inducted into the IAF — may only be possible by next year-end, the sources said.

After the operational clearance, the first lot of fighters would be handed over to the Air Force. Subsequently, a series of tests would be conducted. A review is being conducted by the IAF Chief every quarter to check the progress on Tejas, the sources said.

Notably, a contract for the procurement of 20 Tejas was allotted to Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) on March 31, 2006. The total contract cost was Rs 2,701 crore. The delay in LCA production was primarily due to refinements carried out in the development phase. A total of Rs 1,712 crore has already been paid to HAL till 2009-end.

The delay in the project was due to certain technical complexities and denial of critical technology, including the fly-by-wire system, that keeps the fighter stable as its takes twists and turns, it has been learnt. The programme was originally envisaged some 25 years ago.

Meanwhile, Antony yesterday told the Parliamentary Consultative Committee that the Ministry would be making all efforts to create an environment for speedy indigenisation of defence systems and platforms. Certain policy decisions were on the anvil to give a big boost to the defence industry and for the production of futuristic weapon systems within the country. The meeting reviewed the performance of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

The DRDO is working on various projects like LCA, aero-engine, electronic warfare system, long-range and medium-range missiles, early warning systems, low intensity conflict technologies, radars, armament systems, etc.

Meanwhile, members of Parliament have expressed concern over the cost and time overruns for different projects. The DRDO was asked to come back with the detail of cost and time over-runs for each project and the reasons for the delay, the sources said.

What The Hell

 

[marcos98]

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Nation

The Indian Air Force would have to wait for another 10 months or a year for the induction of indigenously developed light combat aircraft Tejas, it has been learnt. While earlier the aircraft was slated to be inducted into the IAF by March 2011, now even the clearance to operationally fly the fighter may not be available by this period.

There has been a delay in the completion of the Tejas project and the aircraft was not likely to meet the March 2011 deadline, as had been announced by Defence Minister AK Antony, sources said.

The reporter is retarded, that's all.

The IAF will receive its first Tejas Mk1 fighters in the IOC configuration in March 2011 and that is what IOC is meant for, to induct the first batch with limited capabilities till the FOC capabilities are developed, tested and certified.

the FOC was even earlier meant to only come in 2012 end.

Its an attempt to run down the LCA with the MMRCA decision due in a few months.

 

[sudhir007]

Where do you see that?

look at that images

 

[LaBong]

look at that images

That's a stunt not a smoky engine.

 

[SpArK]

Reports On Another Tejas Delay (Meanwhile, here's more about the platform's composites)​

Livefist

 

[GORKHALI]

Oh!!hahahaha did anyone read the report ? journlist might be on high ,he is confused with Foc and Ioc .Foc is always at the year end of 2011 at nov or dec. Please please someone read it too and tell me wheather am rite or wron!

 

[GORKHALI]

Bhai!!as per my inputs in person from sulur afs the initial number going to induct will be 5 LSP and 2 PV =TOTAL 7 LCA WILL BE INDUCTED IN AIRFORCE AFTER THIS 2 WILL BE INDUCE BEFORE DEC 2.011 .

 

[sancho]

look at that images

That's not the engine and we shouldn't degrade the RD 93 engine, although we know that IAF and IN are using the same. The GE engine is better, mainly in terms of thrust and maintenance that's why we wanted western engines for LCA and not the Russian that we already were producing.

 

[ganimi kawa]

This pic does give you an idea about the smoke problem with RD 93, though I agree with sancho that this does not make this engine worthy of scorn.

AFAIK, this problem was being worked upon and I'd love to know the current status.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

That's not the engine and we shouldn't degrade the RD 93 engine, although we know that IAF and IN are using the same. The GE engine is better, mainly in terms of thrust and maintenance that's why we wanted western engines for LCA and not the Russian that we already were producing.

Correct on that. The biggest plus for this (GE) engine is MTBO (Mean Time Between Overhaul) which is the bane of Russian engines.

As an illustration, the old "Killer-Boats" (OSA class) which were used by the IN in the raid on Karachi had aero-engines which had MTBOs of a few hundred hours. The engines had to be pulled out and replaced completely for an overhaul. So operational hours were low.

 

[anoop]

wasnt problem of black smoke coming out of mig-29 was solved. is it or not?

 

[GORKHALI]

Finally LSP 5 DID ITS MAIDEN FLIGHT
Tarmak007 -- A bold blog on Indian defence: LSP-5 Maiden Flight

 

[GORKHALI]

Congrats to HAL AND DRDO !