HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[ziaulislam]

Such confident Indians, I think you need to check our gen 4 aircraft inventory and the fact that we manufacture almost the entire aircraft ourselves.

360(mig 29, mirage, su30) vs 1600(j20,su27,j11,j16,j10,j8)

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

360(mig 29, mirage, su30) vs 1600(j20,su27,j11,j16,j10,j8)

You do understand Su27, J11 and J16 are the one and same right?

 

[ziaulislam]

You do understand Su27, J11 and J16 are the one and same right?

Yes and no...i am going through what the PLAAF designated them
Su27 pure russian
J11 chinse avionics version
J16 variation being more multirole and modication for carrier role

I hope you knew that they are not the same....just because they look similar

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Yes and no...i am going through what the PLAAF designated them
Su27 pure russian
J11 chinse avionics version
J16 variation being more multirole and modication for carrier role

I hope you knew that they are not the same....just because they look similar

Yes and No. J16 is Su27 variant with Chinese Engine. They have stopped production due to issues with the engine or it being underpowered. J15 is the carrier variant, again Su33.

Yes whatever may the Chinese may designate it, its the same platform. J8, 7 is the simple Mig21 version. In terms of 4th gen they have around 380 Su27's, Some 300 J10's and 20 odd J20's.

 

[Armchair]

Yes and No. J16 is Su27 variant with Chinese Engine. They have stopped production due to issues with the engine or it being underpowered. J15 is the carrier variant, again Su33.

Yes whatever may the Chinese may designate it, its the same platform. J8, 7 is the simple Mig21 version. In terms of 4th gen they have around 380 Su27's, Some 300 J10's and 20 odd J20's.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I thought Indians were good with numbers? Seems another let down.

 

[ziaulislam]

Yes and No. J16 is Su27 variant with Chinese Engine. They have stopped production due to issues with the engine or it being underpowered. J15 is the carrier variant, again Su33.

Yes whatever may the Chinese may designate it, its the same platform. J8, 7 is the simple Mig21 version. In terms of 4th gen they have around 380 Su27's, Some 300 J10's and 20 odd J20's.

Delusions
According to air flight global they have 400 local and 150(with new orders) russian flankers
This no. Is also underestimated if going by their current regiments
Stating they only have 300 j10 is also underestimation but withouy new data i will not contradict you here j

Jh7 is whole new design witb modern avionics flight control and fly by wire..

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I thought Indians were good with numbers? Seems another let down.

They werent good with no. Till AIM120 and sd10s were fired at them

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I thought Indians were good with numbers? Seems another let down.

I never disputed Indian Air Force's numbers. That's a response to someone with 1600 4th gen aircraft in Chinese inventory which is wrong info until unless you consider Mig 21 and Su7 variants as 4th gen,

Delusions
According to air flight global they have 400 local and 150(with new orders) russian flankers
This no. Is also underestimated if going by their current regiments
Stating they only have 300 j10 is also underestimation but withouy new data i will not contradict you here j

Jh7 is whole new design witb modern avionics flight control and fly by wire..


They werent good with no. Till AIM120 and sd10s were fired at them

I am speaking with the data I have. I cannot speculate on numbers here when you or me are privy to the data.

 

[ziaulislam]

I never disputed Indian Air Force's numbers. That's a response to someone with 1600 4th gen aircraft in Chinese inventory which is wrong info until unless you consider Mig 21 and Su7 variants as 4th gen,



I am speaking with the data I have. I cannot speculate on numbers here when you or me are privy to the data.

Airflight global is data

 

[RPK]

 

[Han Patriot]

Yes and No. J16 is Su27 variant with Chinese Engine. They have stopped production due to issues with the engine or it being underpowered. J15 is the carrier variant, again Su33.

Yes whatever may the Chinese may designate it, its the same platform. J8, 7 is the simple Mig21 version. In terms of 4th gen they have around 380 Su27's, Some 300 J10's and 20 odd J20's.

According to official Chinese statements, we have 1000+ gen 4 fighters J-11, J-10, SU-30MKK, J-16, J-20, etc.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

According to official Chinese statements, we have 1000+ gen 4 fighters J-11, J-10, SU-30MKK, J-16, J-20, etc.

You shud give us J 20 and Type 055 DDGs

 

[Han Patriot]

You shud give us J 20 and Type 055 DDGs

We will always be there for you my friend. India until today don't even dare attack after you shot down their plane. They may shout and brag, you know it's just hot air.

 

[barora]

We will always be there for you my friend. India until today don't even dare attack after you shot down their plane. They may shout and brag, you know it's just hot air.

But you guys didn't support them in their greatest hour of need in 1972.

But yes you would sell them your cool new weapons.

 

[Han Patriot]

But you guys didn't support them in their greatest hour of need in 1972.

But yes you would sell them your cool new weapons.

I guess we were in a lot of turmoil bck then. I always wondered why two nuclear superpowers did nothing as we slaughtered the weak jawans in 62. Lol

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

According to official Chinese statements, we have 1000+ gen 4 fighters J-11, J-10, SU-30MKK, J-16, J-20, etc.

I dont think Chinese government gives any numbers on the number of aircrafts they have. If they did, please share. I will change my statement.