HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[Stephen Cohen]

So within the next 2-3 years we could see a LCA MK.1A flying with a Uttam AESA radar+Kaveri engine+DARE EW suite

Not the engine

Engine is not a priority ; Engine will be looked at when these GE engines have to be replaced or AMCA or MK 2

 

[Abingdonboy]

I don't think so we issued RFI for mark-1A radar

Yes but that was then and this is now, perhaps at the time HAL didn't think the Uttam would be ready in time but now it appears it will be or the global RFI is a back up plan.

The latest news is this, things could change but it is a pretty remarkable revelation.

Not the engine

Engine is not a priority ; Engine will be looked at when these GE engines have to be replaced or AMCA or MK 2

Beyond a point the Kaveri will become the defacto production engine for the LCA, the first few batches of MK.1A may come with the F404 but once the Kaveri is ready no new LCAs need be mated with it. Those with the F404 will then get the Kaveri during their MLU.

 

[Zer0reZ]

Yes but that was then and this is now, perhaps at the time HAL didn't think the Uttam would be ready in time but now it appears it will be or the global RFI is a back up plan.

The latest news is this, things could change but it is a pretty remarkable revelation

I won't call it latest & blame HAL planners, uttam is there for mark-2 and mark-1 will be integrated first in coming months. Though if Saab wins that radar tender then we are buying Gripen for MMRCA deal for sure.

 

[Anish1]

LCA-Tejas FOC delayed: Update

Minister of State for Defence Subhash Bhamre while replying to a question put forward by a Parliamentarian in Rajya Sabha said that Final Operational Clearance (FOC) of LCA-Tejas will likely happen by June 2018.

Firing of Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missile with radar guidance already has been achieved but it will require further testing to meet FOC Standards, while Close Combat Missile (Python-5 ) testing is pending due to delays in carrying out modification required by OEM (Israel) for integration into LCA-Tejas for trials as per Industrial sources close to idrw.org .

India already has integrated Russian supplied R-73 Within Visual range Air-to-Air missile (WVRAAM) but decided to all so equip LCA-Tejas with Israeli manufactured Python-5 WVRAAM.

Flight testing of Tejas with an air-to-air-refuelling probe is progressing well, but much of the flight testing will be completed in the last phase since IAF has not stressed for equipping the Second batch of 20 LCA-Tejas MK-1 with Inflight-refueling probe immediately but it IFR trials are mandatory requirements which need to be cleared for granting of FOC Certifications .

Canon Gun trials of LCA-Tejas has been carried out in Ground based trials before in flight based trials could begin, but due to bad wheater at weapons testing site and due to other reasons, it is has been kept pending but testing will be completed in next few months. Other Air-to-ground weapon trials have been largely completed.

http://idrw.org/lca-tejas-foc-delayed-update/

1. BVR missile and radar not working properly.

2. WVR missile not integrated.

3. IFR not integrated.

4. Unlike WW2 aircraft Tejas is not able to fire its gun.

Looks like a single seat civilian transport than a military aircraft

 

[Tshering22]

I don't think China will attack Delhi, but Tezpur will definitely be annihilated, we can just sit in Lhasa and launch our long range cruise missiles. We won't be using ballistic missile which would have triggered international condemnation. Just use cruise missile Tomahawk style, lob in a few, destroy Tezpur then aim for the new roads and railways in the chicken neck area. You pratically cut off the whole NE from India. We have the upperhand in Tibet plateau which is the higher ground, put in the light tanks and AH-4 and walla.

Good to hear. Keep talking.

That's all your Ministry of Warning will do.

All your leadership knows what would happen in an all out war and it won't benefit anyone.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

LCA-Tejas FOC delayed: Update

Minister of State for Defence Subhash Bhamre while replying to a question put forward by a Parliamentarian in Rajya Sabha said that Final Operational Clearance (FOC) of LCA-Tejas will likely happen by June 2018.

Firing of Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missile with radar guidance already has been achieved but it will require further testing to meet FOC Standards, while Close Combat Missile (Python-5 ) testing is pending due to delays in carrying out modification required by OEM (Israel) for integration into LCA-Tejas for trials as per Industrial sources close to idrw.org .

India already has integrated Russian supplied R-73 Within Visual range Air-to-Air missile (WVRAAM) but decided to all so equip LCA-Tejas with Israeli manufactured Python-5 WVRAAM.

Flight testing of Tejas with an air-to-air-refuelling probe is progressing well, but much of the flight testing will be completed in the last phase since IAF has not stressed for equipping the Second batch of 20 LCA-Tejas MK-1 with Inflight-refueling probe immediately but it IFR trials are mandatory requirements which need to be cleared for granting of FOC Certifications .

Canon Gun trials of LCA-Tejas has been carried out in Ground based trials before in flight based trials could begin, but due to bad wheater at weapons testing site and due to other reasons, it is has been kept pending but testing will be completed in next few months. Other Air-to-ground weapon trials have been largely completed.

http://idrw.org/lca-tejas-foc-delayed-update/

1. BVR missile and radar not working properly.

2. WVR missile not integrated.

3. IFR not integrated.

4. Unlike WW2 aircraft Tejas is not able to fire its gun.

Looks like a single seat civilian transport than a military aircraft

You dont just fire a single missile and call it a success....This is not some rag tag nation to do that.

The R 73 was already integrated...the IAF wanted a newer WVR along with the R 73. That must also be integrated with the HMD.

IFR is not yet integrated as the Chobham company has just delivered 2 probes smart-***

the Gun is integrated...but the canon firing trials are conducted last to signal that the aircraft is FOC ready.

The F 35 does not have a gun...so what does that mean?

 

[XDescendantX]

Man you guys blabber too much, I had to go back 15 pages just to find a decent pic of the Tejas.

 

[Anish1]

You dont just fire a single missile and call it a success....This is not some rag tag nation to do that.

The R 73 was already integrated...the IAF wanted a newer WVR along with the R 73. That must also be integrated with the HMD.

IFR is not yet integrated as the Chobham company has just delivered 2 probes smart-***

the Gun is integrated...but the canon firing trials are conducted last to signal that the aircraft is FOC ready.

The F 35 does not have a gun...so what does that mean?

Tejas gun is not integrated unlike Spitfire, Bf 109.

F-35 has a gun.

HAL cannot integrate IFR it is fully at fault, too busy exporting goat.

 

[Dazzler]

Tejas gun is not integrated unlike Spitfire, Bf 109.

F-35 has a gun.

HAL cannot integrate IFR it is fully at fault, too busy exporting goat.

HAL cannot even make a decent quartz radome for Tejas, and they had to import that too from Chobham.

 

[Anish1]

HAL cannot even make a decent quartz radome for Tejas, and they had to import that too from Chobham.

Even entire cockpit and canopy had to be redesigned after it found out that pilots who were not midgets would occasionally hit the canopy with helmets.

Now only short pilots can fly the HAL Tejas.

It's a comedy of errors and a grave traversty at the same time

 

[Dazzler]

Even entire cockpit and canopy had to be redesigned after it found out that pilots who were not midgets would occasionally hit the canopy with helmets.

Now only short pilots can fly the HAL Tejas.

It's a comedy of errors and a grave traversty at the same time

Tell me not, i thought the Arjun project took the crown for pioneering such silly mishaps, guess ADA just took over it.

 

[gslv mk3]

HAL cannot even make a decent quartz radome for Tejas, and they had to import that too from Chobham.

But they could make a CFC wing & airframe. stop nitpicking.

 

[Anish1]

Tell me not, i thought the Arjun project took the crown for pioneering such silly mishaps, guess ADA just took over it.

Initial design provided by Dassault. One of the world's finest aerospace companies.

Can't believe the shit ADA has done to mess it up.

Cannot even fire the cannon in the air.

People say it can fire the cannon on the ground so perhaps we should invite you to come to Bangalore and take part in a hangar shootout with the Tejas ?

 

[gslv mk3]

Even entire cockpit and canopy had to be redesigned after it found out that pilots who were not midgets would occasionally hit the canopy with helmets.

Tell me not, i thought the Arjun project took the crown for pioneering such silly mishaps, guess ADA just took over it.

Again nitpicking already solved issues?

https://www.livefistdefence.com/2010/11/exclusive-tejas-cockpit-better-suits.html

Initial design provided by Dassault. One of the world's finest aerospace companies.

LOL.

 

[Dazzler]

But they could make a CFC wing & airframe. stop nitpicking.

it is called reality check. How many radomes HAL made?