HAL Tejas | Updates, News & Discussions-[Thread 2]

[TWINBLADE]

Those who have been accusing @Etilla of being a false-flagger need to tolerate difference of opinion.

More gems saar from same poster-It's ALMOST a TOTAL rip-off of theKawasaki BK-117 and "Eurocopter EC-145" (Which is a variant of the BK-117). A MASSIVE Design failure on the Indian part. Couldn't they have come up with something a BIT more original?

Here's a couple of images that would give you folks a better idea of what I'm talking about ... After all, Images speak louder than words. You be the judge...

Kawasaki BK-117 - First flight in 1979. Introduced in 1982


Let me know if you want more.

 

[Krate M]

@Etilla mig27 is a ground attack optimized version of mig23, so the radar was replaced by ground attack sensor like nose mounted irst.

This is mentioned in the link posted above. Your posts on the other hand have not mentioned a single link to back your claims

 

[Etilla]

@Etilla mig27 is a ground attack optimized version of mig23, so the radar was replaced by ground attack sensor like nose mounted irst.

This is mentioned in the link posted above. Your posts on the other hand have not mentioned a single link to back your claims

R-60 missiles not produced for some time now and life of missile unit over

So naturally IAF will qualify R-73 on it unless they want to qualify the itself expired 550 magic

Bottom line Tejas cannot replace Mig-27 in strike role and Mig-27 can better defend itself if intercepted

 

[Krate M]

R-60 missiles not produced for some time now and life of missile unit over

So naturally IAF will qualify R-73 on it unless they want to qualify the itself expired 550 magic

Bottom line Tejas cannot replace Mig-27 in strike role and Mig-27 can better defend itself if intercepted

That is your absurd claim, back it up with proof like link or photo by IAF or from aeroindia etc

 

[Chak Bamu]

More gems saar from same poster-It's ALMOST a TOTAL rip-off of theKawasaki BK-117 and "Eurocopter EC-145" (Which is a variant of the BK-117). A MASSIVE Design failure on the Indian part. Couldn't they have come up with something a BIT more original?

Here's a couple of images that would give you folks a better idea of what I'm talking about ... After all, Images speak louder than words. You be the judge...

Kawasaki BK-117 - First flight in 1979. Introduced in 1982


Let me know if you want more.

Do I care what you think where someone belongs? Do you think that lacking hyper-nationalism is some sort of a deficiency or proof of lack of certain nationality.

Do not respond to moderation. It is meant to correct imbalances, not lead into tangents and Off-topic posts.

 

[sancho]

That is your absurd claim, back it up with proof like link or photo by IAF or from aeroindia etc

Don't bother, just stick to the topic.

 

[A2Z]

You people have no idea about fighter induction.

Block one fighters have certain defencies in all planes when they achieve block one foc.

Euro fighter typhoon entered service with no cannon
Thunder with. No bvr

So tejas will have a slight weak radar abd engine

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Totally agree with you, induction is just the first step. Tejas has to travel a long way even after that and will see more improvements with the time.
But there is one thing I don't understand that why isn't IAF inducting Tejas? IAF can start training with the available aircraft and then upgrade them later on when the issues get resolved.
IAF not using Tejas either means there is some major problem that both IAF and HAL know but does not want to reveal, or IAF has a mind set that we in sub-continent call "ghar ki murgi daal barabar".

Does India even need HAL? Considering they already have a very large number of Su-27s. They should scrap the program and spend these resources somewhere else. Or if they want their own fighter so bad, they should start a new program from scratch.

Starting a new program would mean India should forget about an indigenous fighter for another 20 years plus that would mean all the time, money and energy spent on Tejas was wasted. Moreover starting a new 4th gen aircraft program now when the world is looking at 5th gen (even India) would be a foolish thing to do.
Even if India scraps the program then wise thing would be to quietly accept the french offer and get all the Rafales manufactured in France and induct them asap.
Or they can even ask for a couple of squadrons of Thunders. But i know they wont do that. JK

 

[SipahSalar]

Starting a new program would mean India should forget about an indigenous fighter for another 20 years plus that would mean all the time, money and energy spent on Tejas was wasted. Moreover starting a new 4th gen aircraft program now when the world is looking at 5th gen (even India) would be a foolish thing to do.
Even if India scraps the program then wise thing would be to quietly accept the french offer and get all the Rafales manufactured in France and induct them asap.
Or they can even ask for a couple of squadrons of Thunders. But i know they wont do that.

Completely disagree. Starting a new program does not mean that all the expertise learned from the HAL program will be lost. In fact all of that experience can be applied to the new program, giving it a boost.
Also there is no such thing as 5th gen, 4th gen. All of that is a marketing scam.

 

[Paksanity]

Go on guys...

 

[Krate M]

Go on guys...

Nah we know the trolls. We ain't that big fools. Disband hal coz a Pakistani asks for it. Wrong government for that. Last government might have tried, if you asked.

 

[Etilla]

Last govt. was in love with hal. Direct commission from Bangalore instead of having to route it through several continents.

By kicking chander to the street and cancelling failed kaveri the current govt. is going all guns blazing at these good for nothing babus

Completely disagree. Starting a new program does not mean that all the expertise learned from the HAL program will be lost. In fact all of that experience can be applied to the new program, giving it a boost.
Also there is no such thing as 5th gen, 4th gen. All of that is a marketing scam.

What Tejas is to India Sabre II is to Pakistan

 

[RPK]

HAL has made successful extreme cold weather trials in Jan 2015 on LCA- Tejas at Leh. “The aircraft made three consecutive starts using indigenous gas turbine starter at -15 °C with 85% charged battery a few days ago. Prior to the start, the aircraft was cold soaked for 18-20 hours (even 42 hours on one occasion) outside the hangar in Leh and no heating source was used for starting”, says Mr. T. Suvarna Raju, Chairman, HAL.

This success is a feather in the cap of HAL. A team of more than 15 engineers and technicians from HAL worked to solve the peculiar requirement faced in starting a Gas Turbine Engine in the rarefied and cold atmospheres found at Leh.

The gas turbine starter unit of HAL used to start the engine for LCA has been designed, developed and manufactured by its Aero Engine Research and Design Centre (AERDC). The first success was the rig trials with a modified starting schedule conducted at Leh (3260 m altitude) in July and August 2014. During this period HAL also successfully demonstrated the start capability of its starter even at a high altitude of 5.6 km.

HAL received external support from Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), CEMILAC, DGAQA, IAF-PMT, NFTC and others for this mission.

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[Badbadman]

Possible Naval LCA mk 2

 

[Water Car Engineer]

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Possible Naval LCA mk 2

Nice catch, it's actually the look of NP2, which is the single seater prototype which we will see soon.

 

[HariPrasad]

I dobt understand, isnt it the same engine used in F 18s ? Then how come it failed in Leh test and the engine in Thejas worked?Is bcoz of the weight difference?

It is basically because of indigenous igniter. It is not easy to ignite the engine in -15 * c with partly charged battery.