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Hajj Stampede, 700+ pilgrims died.

I'm not blaming KSA here or anything, but we need to blame ourselves, the muslim community. With the Crane incident, that's around 1,000 deaths for performing a holy duty. Sheikhs and Muslim scholars really need to find a solution.

Everyone is so scared of having new ideas about our religion because of fear of claiming they are putting innovations in religion.

Muslim lives are becoming so valueless. A thousand people die and we call it a tragic accident and we move on. Religious elders need to figure this out. What are we going to do in 10 years? In 20 years?
 
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4 major incidents in this year's Hajj, starting from 9/11. coincidence?

a crane falls when there is no wind, the wind is found guilty?!
a fire in the Haji hotel.
a train's door wont open and leads to suffocation of the Hajj passengers.
a so called stampede where Saudis have closed one of paths, Africans are guilty!

I must be really optimist (or better to say crazy) to not see them as intentional murders.
 
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4 major incidents in this year's Hajj, starting from 9/11. coincidence?

a crane falls when there is no wind, the wind is found guilty?!
a fire in the Haji hotel.
a train's door wont open and leads to suffocation of the Hajj passengers.
a so called stampede where Saudis have closed one of paths, Africans are guilty!

I must be really optimist (or better to say crazy) to not see them as intentional murders.
All we can do for now is condemnation of these incidences and pray .

for now all Iranians in social media are reciting the surah al-fatiha at least 5 times for the deceased .

i hope everyone in this forum can share it and we can do sth Good for these innocent people .

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We are deeply saddened to hear about the lives lost during the Hajj pilgrimage. It is simply heartrending to read the news. Our condolences go out to the families of the deceased. Our thoughts and prayers are with everyone who is affected by this tragic incident. We also wish a full recovery to those who are injured.

Ali Khan
Digital Engagement Team, USCENTCOM
 
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I don't still get why my post was removed by some known Mods !!?

Royal Saud Family is in charge there and they are responsible for getting more than 1500 innocent people killed no matter if there was an intention behind this mess or it happened by accident.

They have to be judged and blamed and this is what I did in my previous post which sadly was removed by a Mod .

If they can't do the job , Some sane and reliable people should take the job to avoid this .
 
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May Allah give them mercy and give patience to their families.

If all of the Hajjis were German and Japanese this would probably not have happened........
People are always pushing to go where they want and when they want, this is due to a lack of discipline in the ummah as a whole.
 
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Two horrific tragedy in one year very sad and shocking incident. May Allah give them jannat power to their family to overcome the tragedy Amen.
 
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Iran announces 3 days of mourning .

PressTV-Iran declares 3-day national mourning

Rumors (which cannot be confirmed) indicate that since saudi war minister was visiting the site , 2 of 3 streets which were a way out , were closed .

1200 people died for a saudi royal visit .
I also heard that rumour but its strange even if they wanted to close roads for him they only need to close one road not two of them .if they closed two of the roads well they are on another level.
 
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Stop acting like a drama queen. Whether it's their fault or not, Al Saud are not holy, far from it and they can be criticized or blamed openly. This is not a protester rally in Saudi Arabia in which you are trying to silence opposing voices.

Those who were killed could be families of any of us here, or families of any forum members. Instead of white washing Saudi official actions and attacking other members, try to understand scale of this incident.

I, like many others have families or relatives in there, so it's natural to be worried and blaming disregard of Hajj officials.
Saudi Arabia, as we all know very well, has done all of it's ability to afford pilgrimages with the best services. It invests so much efforts and money to facilitate Haj practices every year. We all know that. Nevertheless, accidents among two million people in such a small place could happen, and this accident in specific happened due to some pilgrimages ignorance and disregard of the rules and regulations that manage their movement. Anyway, this incident should be avoided by taking the causes into account.

The problem here is that some people and the Terror State of Iran are trying to take advantage of the situation to take their old sick hatred on Saudi Arabia.
 
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@Serpentine @Daneshmand @The SiLent crY @mohsen :

Latest : 1250 killed and 2000 injured .

the overwhelming majority of the martyrs are Iranian , pakistani , indian and kenyan .

lots of the Iranians who were martyred were sunnis .

total number of Iranians who were martyred : 125 . this may still increase .

F saudi family

Iranian hajj official : Saudia clan has denied access to Iranian rescue teams .

A team of Iranian surgeons and doctors were also denied access to the saudia
 
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-July 2, 1990: A stampede inside a pedestrian tunnel (Al-Ma'aisim tunnel) leading out from Mecca towards Mina, Saudi Arabia and the Plains of Arafat led to the deaths of 1,426 pilgrims.

-May 23, 1994: 270 people were killed at Jamarat Bridge in Mecca during the stoning of the Devil.

-April 9, 1998: At least 118 Hajj pilgrims were trampled to death and 180 injured in an incident on Jamarat Bridge in Mecca.

-March 5, 2001: 35 Hajj pilgrims were trampled to death in a stampede during the Stoning of the Devil ritual in Mina, Saudi Arabia.


-February 11, 2003: The Stoning of the Devil ritual claimed 14 pilgrims' lives.

-February 1, 2004: 251 people were killed at Jamarat Bridge in Mecca during the stoning of the devil.

-January 12, 2006: 345 were killed at Jamarat Bridge in Mecca during the stoning of the devil.

-September 24, 2015: At least 717 Muslim pilgrims killed in Mina, Saudi Arabia in a stampede during the Haj pilgrimage. A further 805 were injured. The overall number of pilgrims is around 2 million according to the Saudi authorities.

List of human stampedes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Always the same place, its happening since decades but nothing changed it seems, theres obviously a problem with the organisation.
 
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