Had Vajpayee been PM, Afzal's execution wouldn’t have happened: Ex-RAW chie

[Screambowl]

Only the BJP is capable of making it look like the babri demolition was a conspiracy of the congress.

Grow up and if you can go to you tube and see the speech that Rao gave after the demolition(his condemnation was in the strongest language possible). till date advani is the only bjp leader who expressed remorse. i had already passed my 12 and was preparing for the NDA exams in those days . i used to read 3 news papers a day . you can try to fool others as they were not old enough but dont try this crap with me .

as PM he will definitely condemn it, no doubt but...

the condemnation came after Vajpayee ji condemned it. Before that Narshimarao was sitting in PMO when mosque was being demolished and smiling shrewd.

plus my point is hangign of afzal at that time was not a good idea could be many security reasons. Now there could both political and diplomatic reasons.

I have heard this version too.. However I have my own take on this. Maybe PVN was smirking to himself thinking that Congress can milk mileage out of this episode for as long as it wants by playing divisive politics of divide and rule. He is a smart politician afterall...

people are not aware of these facts actually. meanwhile Vajpayee was indeed a leader no second doubt and narsihmarao was a great politician, the babri was a pure vote bank policy and narsimharao was a part of it.

 

[Screambowl]

COngress ideology is based on vote bank. Muslims always vote in 80-90%, law caste also vote in such higher no, that's why vote bank politics is so strong in India.

About ideology. Congress ideology can be seen by her black money and scams.. Go wiki to check Indian scam list..

every party's ideology is based on vote bank. But when Congress wants to impress Hindus they do it like Assam style or 84 or kashmir, etc and when they want to impress Muslims they do it.
BJP can only impress hindus and they do it their way. I agree, that is the difference in style.

But when it comes to strategic, and foreign policy and economic policy. They have similar targets and plans. because Cabinets does not function solely on the ruling party. they get inputs from opposition also.

 

[Arav_Rana]

every party's ideology is based on vote bank. But when Congress wants to impress Hindus they do it like Assam style or 84 or kashmir, etc and when they want to impress Muslims they do it.

BJP can only impress hindus and they do it their way.

But when it comes to strategic, and foreign policy and economic policy. They have similar targets and plans. because Cabinets does not function solely on the ruling party. they get inputs from opposition also.

My bro BJP is not anti muslims.
Do no of scams effects economy or not ?

Between Modi ( BJP ) and rahul ( congress ), which one is better choice. ?

 

[Screambowl]

My bro BJP is not anti muslims.
Do no of scams effects economy or not ?

Between Modi ( BJP ) and rahul ( congress ), which one is better choice. ?

where did I say BJP is anti muslims? What I said that they are mostly successful in impressing Hindus. BJP has many Muslim leaders too.

Choice is one, Modi. Plus I always wanted modi to be the PM not because he is from BJP or congress, etc but because he has ideas and he is a think tank!!

 

[Arav_Rana]

where did I say BJP is anti muslims? What I said that they are mostly successful in impressing Hindus. BJP has many Muslim leaders too.

Choice is one, Modi as europe has changed his mind set. Plus I always wanted modi to be the PM not because he is from BJP or congress, etc but because he has ideas and he is a think tank!!

But you were saying that BJP is also doing vote bank.

Just tell me, do you expect that majority of muslims in India ll vote in name of development, economy. ? Just ask your self.
Does not matter how hard you ll try, majority of muslims ll not accept Modi. Not because of gujrat case, It is because of their hate towards BJP. they get to attract towards only those party who speak nothing on their extremist actions.

This is not babri mosque. This is just babri illegal structure which is build over a temple. Even ASI has accepted this.

 

[Screambowl]

But you were saying that BJP is also doing vote bank.

Just tell me, do you expect that majority of muslims in India ll vote in name of development, economy. ? Just ask your self.
Does not matter how hard you ll try, majority of muslims ll not accept Modi. Not because of gujrat case, It is because of their hate towards BJP. they get to attract towards only those party who speak nothing on their extremist actions.

This is not babri mosque. This is just babri illegal structure which is build over a temple. Even ASI has accepted this.

Vote bank policy mean blaming each other, doing partiality with different communities to get votes. All this happens in India and Both BJP and congress do it. There is no doubt.

Babri was a full part of votebank and afzal is partially vote bank. You can politicize any thing. even if a Congress leader sneezes or BJP leader coughs, it can be politicized.

 

[Rig Vedic]

Afzal Guru seems to have been a decent individual who became badly misguided by the ideology of cross-border Jihadism. Considering the enormity of the crime of attacking the Parliament, in which his involvement is proven beyond all doubt, there was no option but to hang him.

That said, many of those inside parliament, such as Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi, also deserved to be hanged next to Afzal, because in my view corruption is the highest form of treason.

 

[garibnawaz]

I haven't read the 3 pages

however it was Vajpayee because of whom POTA existed and because of which Guru was convicted within a year. Then he went to High court and Supreme court both of whom upheld his death sentence.

Then in 2006 he sent a mercy plea to President. In less than a year Pratibha Patil took over as a President and didn't took any decision. In fact Afzal's file spent 4 years in transit between Delhi Government and MHA.

I wonder what PM of India (vajpayee ji) has to do with Afzal's hanging?

Vajpayee ji is old and sick. He can't come and defend himself against such baseless accusations. RAW chief is proving his royalty to Italians rather than his own country.

 

[Ankit_Pujari]

Post-retirement Dulat sahib has tasted the good life afforded to those cootchie-cooing on the Track II circuit. His continued inclusion in such future dalliances hinges on him voicing opinions that would find resonance with those organizing these junkets as well as with those with whom he is to jump into the bed with in these meetings, conjuring up hypothetical endorsements to buttress his position.

Afzal Guru's hanging is a much delayed action. Closure to the agony of family member's of those killed, thwarting the terrorist attack should have been done much earlier. Those who refrain from enforcing the law, fearing reprisals from those who do not respect the law, are just as guilty of dereliction of duty.
If someone breaks the law, it is the duty of a lawful system to break him with the law.

 

[Infinity]

it took 7 years to deliver Justice and you claim it as a drastic action ? and that is a observation made by a Judge not a big thing

Ya it is so..................BJP played politics over this and Congress fulfilled there wishes.............See the results in Valley...........Now who will explain them that why Killers of Beant singh & Rajiv Gandhi are not yet Hanged................ Punishment....................

 

[Marxist]

Ya it is so..................BJP played politics over this and Congress fulfilled there wishes.............See the results in Valley...........Now who will explain them that why Killers of Beant singh & Rajiv Gandhi are not yet Hanged................ Punishment....................

SC sentenced him not Congress or BJP ,delaying it was the politics ,so Congress played cheap politics of minorty appeasement by delaying the sentence ,Protests in Kashmir is not a new thing ......

bot cases are pending in SC , commutation of the death sentence request ion the ground of inordinate delay in deciding their mercy pleas by the President. so SC will decide their fate so let's Wait and watch

 

[T90TankGuy]

as PM he will definitely condemn it, no doubt but...

the condemnation came after Vajpayee ji condemned it. Before that Narshimarao was sitting in PMO when mosque was being demolished and smiling shrewd.

plus my point is hangign of afzal at that time was not a good idea could be many security reasons. Now there could both political and diplomatic reasons.



people are not aware of these facts actually. meanwhile Vajpayee was indeed a leader no second doubt and narsihmarao was a great politician, the babri was a pure vote bank policy and narsimharao was a part of it.

Can you give any proof to the effect ? if not you are just a bjp mouthpiece.

 

[Screambowl]

Can you give any proof to the effect ? if not you are just a bjp mouthpiece.

do you know IB had told Narsihmarao 7-8 months earlier about the demolition?
and for your information, neither I am pro BJP nor Pro congress because I know both have similar policies.

 

[T90TankGuy]

do you know IB had told Narsihmarao 7-8 months earlier about the demolition?
and for your information, neither I am pro BJP nor Pro congress because I know both have similar policies.

Mate can you not understand? i asked do you have a source . if so provide it . but dont expect us to believe what you say otherwise.

 

[Sergi]

Hahahaha I would like to add something here ........

Had Modi been PM , Afzal's would have been hanged the next day after the judgement

Ifs and buts don't count