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Growing Russia-Pakistan ties a reality that India will have to live with

If someone warming up to someone than why it is giving pains to someone? India can do same thing with china. If you have billion dollar contracts with Russia than it doesnt mean you also got rights to dictate Russia. Know your limits.
 
Russian economy depends too much on defence equipment. With Russia no more only market for indian defence establishment, they will look for other sources.

Russians know what side their bread is buttered- they're not going to throw away >$50 BN from India for <$1BN for Pakistan.

No harm in getting both though. But you'd better believe the Russians won't ever sell them be latest tech that they are giving to India. Some outdated jet engines here and there is nothing to be alarmed about. The really fright should be I be Pakistani side seeing India cosy up with almost everyone from the US to France to SK to Japan to Brazil to Saud to Oman even China!


Sometimes these statements from you guys just show that you use internet only for recreational purposes. Russian economy is based on Oil and Gas Industry, go search up properly before opening up the mouth and showing how illiterate you are.
 
Russians know what side their bread is buttered- they're not going to throw away >$50 BN from India for <$1BN for Pakistan.

No harm in getting both though. But you'd better believe the Russians won't ever sell them be latest tech that they are giving to India. Some outdated jet engines here and there is nothing to be alarmed about. The really fright should be I be Pakistani side seeing India cosy up with almost everyone from the US to France to SK to Japan to Brazil to Saud to Oman even China!

The world is not quite as simple as you make it out to be.

A lot of the deals that India has with Russia(like aircraft carrier and PAK-FA), there are really no other alternatives.

Some could be replaced but Russia's economy is strong now so no long term impact on it.

Also Russia has the UN veto and India would not really want to alienate Russia over a few billion dollar arm sales to Pakistan that would not threaten the numerically superior Indians anyway.
 
Whatever russia is doing is his business. We can not expect always specially when we are not giving anything except $$.
Does not matter what they are doing but this is time for India to speed development, specially in defence field to produce world class weapons, does not matter how, steal, copy paste from any where , or get help from US or any other country to establish local productions.

We may stick to the policy to not to harm any body but can we expect same from others ?

Russia or any other country is not going to do favor for us forever. and India is not baby anymore,who needs others to help in everything. 65 year is enough time and This is time for our politicians to stop acting liks asshole and think about country. We are just lagging behind becz our politicans are idiots and corrupts..
 
I agree with first half of ur statement but not with the other half in which u say that if USSR would had talked to Pakistan, it wouldn't had to retreat the way it did, IMHO, it was the open support of mighty US to both Afghanistan & Pakistan that did the trick, Pakistan in no way could have influenced the Russian decision if US would not had supported it.

No, you read wrong.

I,meant that only if they had engaged with us they never would have invaded Afghanistan.
 
Pakistan needs to radically recalibrate its relations with Russia and improve this relationship drastically. The World is changing fast and in the new World order if super powers like China and Russia support Pakistan, it will improve Pakistan's standing in the World.

Pakistan's relationship with Russia has nothing to do with India. This is a purely bilateral relationshjip between Pakistan and Russia and it must stand on its own merit, in the best interest of these two countries. Whether Indians can live with it or not is not our business and our relationship with a third country is none of their business. They should deal with their own issues.
 
If someone warming up to someone than why it is giving pains to someone? India can do same thing with china. If you have billion dollar contracts with Russia than it doesnt mean you also got rights to dictate Russia. Know your limits.

exactly sir, sadly bhartiz are blind when it comes to take such factors in account, sooner or later as title says "reality that India will have to live with".

India acts soo biased when it comes to Russia which mark their insecurity with the issue.
 
I don't really see why this is not possible. I mean we have been wooing the Americans, Europeans and Jews for sometime as well. Besides if Russian involvement can stop the madness in Afghanistan, all the more better. Our companies will be in a much safer environment to invest in Afghanistan.
 
This realignment has been in the pipeline since the mid-2000's - everything is on the table, from defense, infrastructure, economy, investment. Also on international issues, also the Russians have promised full unconditional support in our joining the SCO.
 
“We should not dramatise an outdated situation. Even in India, which Indian leaders can say Pakistan is an enemy?’’ stated a Russian diplomat. Even otherwise, the Russian side communicated to New Delhi, Mr. Putin’s proposed first-ever visit to Pakistan was more to do with Afghanistan where any future settlement of the problem will depend on how its neighbours will act, they said.
The bolded part says it all.
 
I don't really see why this is not possible. I mean we have been wooing the Americans, Europeans and Jews for sometime as well. Besides if Russian involvement can stop the madness in Afghanistan, all the more better. Our companies will be in a much safer environment to invest in Afghanistan.

Time will answer that - loud & clear.
 
Time will answer that - loud & clear.

Thats why chinese even dint object U.S presence in A-stan... :)

Your balloon of paksitan ruling A-stan indirectly was punctured when U.S invaded A-stan...

Same putin is giving routes to nato if they stay more ...:lol:
 
Why dont pak try to make good relationship with its future superpower neighbour(INDIA).If we get united nobody can stop us . Like uropean union is getting powerfull.
 
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