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growing LJ influence: investigators
AFP — PUBLISHED about 3 hours ago

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A security official displays cartridges he collected from the scene of the Safoora attack. — AP/File
KARACHI: Investigators probing the first attack claimed in Pakistan by the Islamic State group believe a notorious local sectarian group may have carried out the massacre as it seeks to expand its ties to the Middle East.

Gunmen stormed a bus in Karachi last month, killing 45 members of the Ismaili minority community in one of the deadliest incidents in Pakistan this year.

Take a look: 43 killed in attack on bus carrying Ismailis in Karachi

The slaughter was swiftly claimed by IS, marking the first time the militants, who have seized control of large areas of Iraq and Syria and declared a “caliphate”, said they were behind an attack in Pakistan.

Islamabad has officially denied that IS is operating in Pakistan, which has been wracked by Al Qaeda and Taliban linked violence for more than a decade.

But investigators believe the attack may have been carried out by the Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-i-Jhangvi (LJ) as it seeks to expand its international influence — and get access to IS's rich funding.

LJ has emerged as the bloodiest and most ruthless anti-Shia outfit in Pakistan, which has seen a rise in sectarian attacks in recent years, mostly targeting Shias, who make up 20 per cent of the population.

“We are investigating the LJ connection behind the attack and one of the arrested suspects is linked to LJ,” a security official involved in the probe told AFP on condition of anonymity.

“LJ wanted to gain attention of IS for its financial needs and the attack on Ismailis provided the perfect choice as it got international attention."

Returning fighters
Senior intelligence officials and militant sources say LJ cadres have fought in Syria and returned inspired by IS, which has won global notoriety for its brutality and slick propaganda operation.

The returned fighters are working with a new generation of middle-class, educated, self-radicalised 'jihadists' to try to raise the black flag of the IS “caliphate” in Pakistan.

KARACHI: Investigators probing the first attack claimed in Pakistan by the Islamic State group believe a notorious local sectarian group may have carried out the massacre as it seeks to expand its ties to the Middle East.

Gunmen stormed a bus in Karachi last month, killing 45 members of the Ismaili minority community in one of the deadliest incidents in Pakistan this year.

Take a look: 43 killed in attack on bus carrying Ismailis in Karachi

The slaughter was swiftly claimed by IS, marking the first time the militants, who have seized control of large areas of Iraq and Syria and declared a “caliphate”, said they were behind an attack in Pakistan.

Islamabad has officially denied that IS is operating in Pakistan, which has been wracked by Al Qaeda and Taliban linked violence for more than a decade.

But investigators believe the attack may have been carried out by the Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-i-Jhangvi (LJ) as it seeks to expand its international influence — and get access to IS's rich funding.

LJ has emerged as the bloodiest and most ruthless anti-Shia outfit in Pakistan, which has seen a rise in sectarian attacks in recent years, mostly targeting Shias, who make up 20 per cent of the population.

“We are investigating the LJ connection behind the attack and one of the arrested suspects is linked to LJ,” a security official involved in the probe told AFP on condition of anonymity.

“LJ wanted to gain attention of IS for its financial needs and the attack on Ismailis provided the perfect choice as it got international attention."

Returning fighters
Senior intelligence officials and militant sources say LJ cadres have fought in Syria and returned inspired by IS, which has won global notoriety for its brutality and slick propaganda operation.

The returned fighters are working with a new generation of middle-class, educated, self-radicalised 'jihadists' to try to raise the black flag of the IS “caliphate” in Pakistan.

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In this picture taken on May 15, 2015, Iqbal Walji, president of Ismaili Council for Pakistan, gives an interview to AFP in Karachi. — AFP
An intelligence officer who has tracked LJ for years said the group, based in the southern part of Punjab, had sent hundreds of fighters to Syria.

“The new cadre of militants going to Syria and Iraq, these militants are mostly educated people with middle-class backgrounds,” the intelligence officer told AFP.

Over the past decade the patchwork of militant groups that make up the Pakistani Taliban have largely focused on waging a domestic campaign against the government and armed forces.

But a former LJ militant who produces online propaganda material for terror groups said for young militants in Pakistan, all the talk now is of IS and the Middle East.

“Many jihadists particularly from Punjab went to fight in Syria and some died,” he said.

“Unlike the past, news from Syria, Iraq and Yemen is the most debated and shared item on extremist-militant forums in Pakistan."

Security analyst Amir Rana said LJ had fighters in Iraq since 2013, and even set up a training camp there.

“The ideological and operational association between Pakistani militant groups and IS is not new, Pakistani militants were part of IS since its inception,” he told AFP.

“The actual threat for Pakistan is the return of LJ militants fighting in Iraq and Syria, as they would add to the sectarian violence here."

Silent surge
LJ, founded in 1996, was behind some of the worst attacks on Shias in Pakistan's history, including two huge bombings in the southwestern city of Quetta in 2013 that together killed nearly 200 people.

The security official said the group was now seeking to expand its operations.

“LJ is growing from an anti-Shia organisation to an organisation with trans-national interests,” he said.

The group has been accused of carrying out attacks in Afghanistan and has also begun targeting Christians, Hindus and other Muslim minorities.

“For the last two years, there is evidence that the organisation is involved in attacking minorities in urban centres where they have established strong bases, especially in Karachi,” he said.

“But LJ has claimed responsibility for hardly any of those incidents — usually militant organisations with no structural or organisational existence have claimed responsibility for attacks carried out by LJ,” he added.

He said LJ maintained a strict cellular structure, with individuals in one unit unaware of the existence of others, and sometimes drew militants from other groups for specific missions.

Educated and radical
On May 20, Sindh Chief Minister Qaim Ali Shah announced the first arrests in connection with the Karachi bus attack.

Know more: Qaim announces arrest of killers behind Safoora Goth, Sabeen's murder

He said four “highly educated” suspects had confessed their involvement, including a graduate of the city's prestigious Institute of Business Administration.

The detentions of the alleged plotters, who police believe coordinated the gunmen on the ground, caused some surprise in Pakistan, where militancy has been regarded as the preserve of the poor.

But the arrests come as no surprise for officials investigating the case.

The intelligence official overseeing the Karachi investigation said the abundance of extremist literature on the web was attracting educated people from the middle class.

Another senior intelligence official said people with strong academic backgrounds were being increasingly radicalised following the Syrian conflict.

“These 'educated jihadists' are embedded in society, they have normal lives and keep their ideologies alive through the Internet — that's why it is difficult to place tabs on them,” he said.
 
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MQM workers are also under investigation for that. A nexus between LeJ and MQM can not be ruled out.

Most probably this terrorist strike was done with the help of RAW, whom Altaf Hussain begged for help, to release some pressure on MQM.
 
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MQM workers are also under investigation for that. A nexus between LeJ and MQM can not be ruled out.

Most probably this terrorist strike was done with the help of RAW, whom Altaf Hussain begged for help, to release some pressure on MQM.

Give us a break from your conspiracy theories. Secular and religious extremists don't work together. Classical Muslim trait of late to shift blame all over instead of taking responsibilities of their own faults and shortcomings.

On topic: Aren't the strongholds and first tier leadership of LJ known widely? Why then is the state and seventh largest army in the world afraid to tackle the menace in the urban/sub-urban areas and merely fighting the symptom in tribal areas? Terrorism can't ever be completely eliminated if we fail to keep the radicalization and extremism in check. This LJ and assorted sectarian groups are highly supportive of ISIS and call Baghdadi as their Caliph and mass murderers as Mujahideen-e-Islam, about time an operation is initialized against these SOB's.
 
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MQM workers are also under investigation for that. A nexus between LeJ and MQM can not be ruled out.

Most probably this terrorist strike was done with the help of RAW, whom Altaf Hussain begged for help, to release some pressure on MQM.
Oh bhai har jagah RAW nahi hai .. thoda bahut apne andar bhi dekho.

PS: can you identify the maulana on the right?
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Give us a break from your conspiracy theories. Secular and religious extremists don't work together. Classical Muslim trait of late to shift blame all over instead of taking responsibilities of their own faults and shortcomings.

On topic: Aren't the strongholds and first tier leadership of LJ known widely? Why then is the state and seventh largest army in the world afraid to tackle the menace in the urban/sub-urban areas and merely fighting the symptom in tribal areas? Terrorism can't ever be completely eliminated if we fail to keep the radicalization and extremism in check. This LJ and assorted sectarian groups are highly supportive of ISIS, about time an operation is initialized against these SOB's.

Excuse me? There are enough examples where false flags were conducted i.e. same target killers assassinating people from both sects to spread sectarianism.

And there are more than enough examples in the world where seculars or even atheists are working with religious extremists if that suits their interests.

I thought being a TT you should at least be aware of that instead of passing such a blanket statement.
 
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What the Hell is Lashkar E Jhangvi now??? A sub branch of TTP or what??

Can anyone answer??
 
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What the Hell is Lashkar E Jhangvi now??? A sub branch of TTP or what??

Can anyone answer??
bigger than that. its actually what we normally know as Punjabi taliban. equally ferocious and inhumae as their other counterparts from abroad and other provinces. they are protected and supported by Nawaz league's Rana Sanahullah
and their leaders have claim to fame of killing hundreds of shias and they enjoy a celebrity status among police, judges and radicalised members of community, they cant be touched they are way too many.
the reaction to Red mosque operation which Pakistani military faced was actually driven by LJ. while the racist people will stop and harass innocent pashton labourors and traders in Punjab and rest of the country. LJ members being punjabis can simply walk on the face of people and get away with their terrorism

Excuse me? There are enough examples where false flags were conducted i.e. same target killers assassinating people from both sects to spread sectarianism.

And there are more than enough examples in the world where seculars or even atheists are working with religious extremists if that suits their interests.

I thought being a TT you should at least be aware of that instead of passing such a blanket statement.
thats true LJ members do kill everyone
when they can indiscriminately kill women and children of all ages without checking the faith then what is stopping them to check if someone is say a Beralvi/ shia or a deobandi?

false flag is a component of this phenomenon but not the entire explanation.
 
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When ppl cud brazenly support orgs like mqm and try giving excuses for their crimes, no wonder there cud be supporters of lej.
What is disappointing is that all promises made by army last dec that they will wipe out all militant groups.....
Anyways ihad thought the cursed lej will be disbanded and gone but didnt happen.
 
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growing LJ influence: investigators
AFP — PUBLISHED about 3 hours ago

55713f1427f7c.jpg

A security official displays cartridges he collected from the scene of the Safoora attack. — AP/File
KARACHI: Investigators probing the first attack claimed in Pakistan by the Islamic State group believe a notorious local sectarian group may have carried out the massacre as it seeks to expand its ties to the Middle East.

Gunmen stormed a bus in Karachi last month, killing 45 members of the Ismaili minority community in one of the deadliest incidents in Pakistan this year.

Take a look: 43 killed in attack on bus carrying Ismailis in Karachi

The slaughter was swiftly claimed by IS, marking the first time the militants, who have seized control of large areas of Iraq and Syria and declared a “caliphate”, said they were behind an attack in Pakistan.

Islamabad has officially denied that IS is operating in Pakistan, which has been wracked by Al Qaeda and Taliban linked violence for more than a decade.

But investigators believe the attack may have been carried out by the Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-i-Jhangvi (LJ) as it seeks to expand its international influence — and get access to IS's rich funding.

LJ has emerged as the bloodiest and most ruthless anti-Shia outfit in Pakistan, which has seen a rise in sectarian attacks in recent years, mostly targeting Shias, who make up 20 per cent of the population.

“We are investigating the LJ connection behind the attack and one of the arrested suspects is linked to LJ,” a security official involved in the probe told AFP on condition of anonymity.

“LJ wanted to gain attention of IS for its financial needs and the attack on Ismailis provided the perfect choice as it got international attention."

Returning fighters
Senior intelligence officials and militant sources say LJ cadres have fought in Syria and returned inspired by IS, which has won global notoriety for its brutality and slick propaganda operation.

The returned fighters are working with a new generation of middle-class, educated, self-radicalised 'jihadists' to try to raise the black flag of the IS “caliphate” in Pakistan.

KARACHI: Investigators probing the first attack claimed in Pakistan by the Islamic State group believe a notorious local sectarian group may have carried out the massacre as it seeks to expand its ties to the Middle East.

Gunmen stormed a bus in Karachi last month, killing 45 members of the Ismaili minority community in one of the deadliest incidents in Pakistan this year.

Take a look: 43 killed in attack on bus carrying Ismailis in Karachi

The slaughter was swiftly claimed by IS, marking the first time the militants, who have seized control of large areas of Iraq and Syria and declared a “caliphate”, said they were behind an attack in Pakistan.

Islamabad has officially denied that IS is operating in Pakistan, which has been wracked by Al Qaeda and Taliban linked violence for more than a decade.

But investigators believe the attack may have been carried out by the Pakistan-based militant group Lashkar-i-Jhangvi (LJ) as it seeks to expand its international influence — and get access to IS's rich funding.

LJ has emerged as the bloodiest and most ruthless anti-Shia outfit in Pakistan, which has seen a rise in sectarian attacks in recent years, mostly targeting Shias, who make up 20 per cent of the population.

“We are investigating the LJ connection behind the attack and one of the arrested suspects is linked to LJ,” a security official involved in the probe told AFP on condition of anonymity.

“LJ wanted to gain attention of IS for its financial needs and the attack on Ismailis provided the perfect choice as it got international attention."

Returning fighters
Senior intelligence officials and militant sources say LJ cadres have fought in Syria and returned inspired by IS, which has won global notoriety for its brutality and slick propaganda operation.

The returned fighters are working with a new generation of middle-class, educated, self-radicalised 'jihadists' to try to raise the black flag of the IS “caliphate” in Pakistan.

55713e39478da.gif

In this picture taken on May 15, 2015, Iqbal Walji, president of Ismaili Council for Pakistan, gives an interview to AFP in Karachi. — AFP
An intelligence officer who has tracked LJ for years said the group, based in the southern part of Punjab, had sent hundreds of fighters to Syria.

“The new cadre of militants going to Syria and Iraq, these militants are mostly educated people with middle-class backgrounds,” the intelligence officer told AFP.

Over the past decade the patchwork of militant groups that make up the Pakistani Taliban have largely focused on waging a domestic campaign against the government and armed forces.

But a former LJ militant who produces online propaganda material for terror groups said for young militants in Pakistan, all the talk now is of IS and the Middle East.

“Many jihadists particularly from Punjab went to fight in Syria and some died,” he said.

“Unlike the past, news from Syria, Iraq and Yemen is the most debated and shared item on extremist-militant forums in Pakistan."

Security analyst Amir Rana said LJ had fighters in Iraq since 2013, and even set up a training camp there.

“The ideological and operational association between Pakistani militant groups and IS is not new, Pakistani militants were part of IS since its inception,” he told AFP.

“The actual threat for Pakistan is the return of LJ militants fighting in Iraq and Syria, as they would add to the sectarian violence here."

Silent surge
LJ, founded in 1996, was behind some of the worst attacks on Shias in Pakistan's history, including two huge bombings in the southwestern city of Quetta in 2013 that together killed nearly 200 people.

The security official said the group was now seeking to expand its operations.

“LJ is growing from an anti-Shia organisation to an organisation with trans-national interests,” he said.

The group has been accused of carrying out attacks in Afghanistan and has also begun targeting Christians, Hindus and other Muslim minorities.

“For the last two years, there is evidence that the organisation is involved in attacking minorities in urban centres where they have established strong bases, especially in Karachi,” he said.

“But LJ has claimed responsibility for hardly any of those incidents — usually militant organisations with no structural or organisational existence have claimed responsibility for attacks carried out by LJ,” he added.

He said LJ maintained a strict cellular structure, with individuals in one unit unaware of the existence of others, and sometimes drew militants from other groups for specific missions.

Educated and radical
On May 20, Sindh Chief Minister Qaim Ali Shah announced the first arrests in connection with the Karachi bus attack.

Know more: Qaim announces arrest of killers behind Safoora Goth, Sabeen's murder

He said four “highly educated” suspects had confessed their involvement, including a graduate of the city's prestigious Institute of Business Administration.

The detentions of the alleged plotters, who police believe coordinated the gunmen on the ground, caused some surprise in Pakistan, where militancy has been regarded as the preserve of the poor.

But the arrests come as no surprise for officials investigating the case.

The intelligence official overseeing the Karachi investigation said the abundance of extremist literature on the web was attracting educated people from the middle class.

Another senior intelligence official said people with strong academic backgrounds were being increasingly radicalised following the Syrian conflict.

“These 'educated jihadists' are embedded in society, they have normal lives and keep their ideologies alive through the Internet — that's why it is difficult to place tabs on them,” he said.
Growing influence another crap and lie in fact opposite is happening
 
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Excuse me? There are enough examples where false flags were conducted i.e. same target killers assassinating people from both sects to spread sectarianism.

And there are more than enough examples in the world where seculars or even atheists are working with religious extremists if that suits their interests.

I thought being a TT you should at least be aware of that instead of passing such a blanket statement.

There aren't enough examples, there are mere far-fetched assumptions, inconclusive evidence and political rivalries mixed with genuine threats. The third largest political party doesn't work with the one of the most notorious banned organization of all time, especially with such ideological differences.

The ones relevant in this case? What interests are suitable for both?

Oh btw lej and aswj must be connected.

Is the new name for ASWJ. LeJ merely changed its name.
 
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thats true LJ members do kill everyone
when they can indiscriminately kill women and children of all ages without checking the faith then what is stopping them to check if someone is say a Beralvi/ shia or a deobandi?

false flag is a component of this phenomenon but not the entire explanation.

I am all for hanging all extremist Mullahs starting with Maulvi Burqa of Lal-Masjid. Our country can do much better without them.

But the point I was making about incidents such as Safoora is that sometimes things are not as black & white as they seem at the first glimpse. Very complex situation in Karachi where MQM is known for conducting false flag for such a long time, even killing their own workers (several arrested MQM workers have put light on this subject). And MQM's connection with the neighboring country are no secret as well. Even some of their top Rabita Committee members in London are indians with British passports.
 
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When ppl cud brazenly support orgs like mqm and try giving excuses for their crimes, no wonder there cud be supporters of lej.
What is disappointing is that all promises made by army last dec that they will wipe out all militant groups.....
Anyways ihad thought the cursed lej will be disbanded and gone but didnt happen.

You cant differentiate between the third largest political party and a banned organization seriously? :D

If you are referring to me, at least have the courage to quote or mention me. Whats with this passive-aggressive behavior?
 
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