Greek soldiers fire warning shots at migrants near Evros

[Constantin84]

All that gdp still a shithole. Romania is even more worse than the Congo. In fact even the Congo is better than your gypsy kingdom.

Neah....GDP counts and tells you alot about the wannabe anatolian superpower

 

[American Pakistani]

Same here.....Losing my temper and throwing insults back, it wasn't worth it.

At least my intention was not insults, I apologize if it came through that way.

The only logic that make sense is that if you destroy someone's home you should not cry if they come to the dream democratic free lands you brag about in front of them.

I was one of the member here in 2011 saying, western countries should stay out of Libya, Egypt and Syrian and who rule these countries. But western govt bombed Libya and Syria to some ages, and now there is a lot of violence there, and neighboring Turkeye, Jordan, Tunisia, Lebanon are left to face burden.

Same thing happened during soviet war when west left all mess for Pakistan to deal with including 5 to 8 million refugees in Pakistan (who have now tripled since they have 2nd generations living in Pakistan).

If these refugees will go into Europe, Europe will learn not to meddle into other countries affairs. Else there will be no stop to it.

 

[Constantin84]

At least my intention was not insults, I apologize if it came through that way.

The only logic that make sense is that if you destroy someone's home you should not cry if they come to the dream democratic free lands you brag about in front of them.

I was one of the member here in 2011 saying, western countries should stay out of Libya, Egypt and Syrian and who rule these countries. But western govt bombed Libya and Syria to some ages, and now there is a lot of violence there, and neighboring Turkeye, Jordan, Tunisia, Lebanon are left to face burden.

Same thing happened during soviet war when west left all mess for Pakistan to deal with including 5 to 8 million refugees in Pakistan (who have now tripled since they have 2nd generations living in Pakistan).

If these refugees will go into Europe, Europe will learn not to meddle into other countries affairs. Else there will be no stop to it.

Me and millions of other citizens are in no way responsible for our governments running of external affairs. I have a right to ask the people I elect to spend my tax money on law enforcement agencies who are designed to protect national borders. I have a right not to someday walk my daughter on streets flooded with foreigners whit a totally different culture, I have a right to ask the politicians I elect and to whose economical state apparatus I contribute, to ensure safety.

 

[American Pakistani]

Me and millions of other citizens are in no way responsible for our governments running of external affairs. I have a right to ask the people I elect to spend my tax money on law enforcement agencies who are designed to protect national borders. I have a right not to someday walk my daughter on streets flooded with foreigners whit a totally different culture, I have a right to ask the politicians I elect and to whose economical state apparatus I contribute, to ensure safety.

But you have elected these officials, you should also make sure they don't go and start destroying others lands, houses, killing people, etc. Just like you like you be left alone, they too like to be left alone and live life as they wish.

Furthermore, the destination of these refugees are mostly those countries who are responsible for destroying them.

 

[Constantin84]

But you have elected these officials, you should also make sure they don't go and start destroying others lands, houses, killing people, etc. Just like you like you be left alone, they too like to be left alone and live life as they wish.

Furthermore, the destination of these refugees are mostly those countries who are responsible for destroying them.

In Lybia the only targets destroyed were military pro Gaddafi ones.The gulf Arabs and Turks had much more involvement in Syria than any other EU country.

As per electing politicians.....in the last years,hawkish pro war ones lost to popular opinion,see the British parliament rejecting a Syrian intervention

 

[American Pakistani]

In Lybia the only targets destroyed were military pro Gaddafi ones.The gulf Arabs and Turks had much more involvement in Syria than any other EU country.

As per electing politicians.....in the last years,hawkish pro war ones lost to popular opinion,see the British parliament rejecting a Syrian intervention

The question is why? Why did you went in to destroy and then armed rebels to fight govt and then provided "air support" by destroying entire towns claiming hide out of Gaddafi and terrorist.

Before your invasions, Libya was a well settled country. If they had rift among themselves, that was none of your business.

Same goes for Syria, you guys even supported Kurdish terrorist who were fighting Turkeye.

 

[Vergennes]

In Lybia the only targets destroyed were military pro Gaddafi ones.The gulf Arabs and Turks had much more involvement in Syria than any other EU country.

As per electing politicians.....in the last years,hawkish pro war ones lost to popular opinion,see the British parliament rejecting a Syrian intervention

Look my friend,debating with them is like talking to a wall. This will be always your fault no matter what. You intervene in a muslim country and you are doomed and cursed. You don't intervene in a muslim country we are doomed and cursed,they are asking where are we and why we don't intervene in front of an uncoming massacre. (Which was the case in Libya)

This guy is talking about Libya. That's none of our fault if the locals can't get along to form a government of national unity and bogus warlords + doubtful groups start to slaughter each others to dominate the country.

Not our fault when locals among many arab countries wanted to join the arab spring movement but their leaders answered with tanks. Bashar with his Russian and Iranian buddies are carpet bombing Syria towns after towns,but somehow that's our fault.

 

[Constantin84]

Look my friend,debating with them is like talking to a wall. This will be always your fault no matter what. You intervene in a muslim country and you are doomed and cursed. You don't intervene in a muslim country we are doomed and cursed,they are asking where are we and why we don't intervene in front of an uncoming massacre. (Which was the case in Libya)

This guy is talking about Libya. That's none of our fault if the locals can't get along to form a government of national unity and bogus warlords + doubtful groups start to slaughter each others to dominate the country.

Not our fault when locals among many arab countries wanted to join the arab spring movement but their leaders answered with tanks. Bashar with his Russian and Iranian buddies are carpet bombing Syria towns after towns,but somehow that's our fault.

Sometimes it's as simple as you put it.Shall we mention that while the EU was sanctioning Russia, Turkey strengthened ties and signed lucrative economic and military deals with the Russians? Now they want help against Russia? Lol

https://www.euractiv.com/section/gl...s-assurance-bulgarias-border-will-stay-calm/P


Basically, this is the proof that this is an orchestrated attack on Greece from Turkey

 

[Vergennes]

Sometimes it's as simple as you put it.Shall we mention that while the EU was sanctioning Russia, Turkey strengthened ties and signed lucrative economic and military deals with the Russians? Now they want help against Russia? Lol

We all remember how Putin was an ally of Turkey and how the whole western world was the enemy of Turkey. Turkey turned its back to its real partners by trying to play on both sides and buddying with Russia.... But instead got played by the same Russians. Erdogan thought there was a fool in the Kremlin. And now he's asking indeed the former ones he spat on for help. Well it backfired,didn't it ?

Erdogan has surely achieved something. Turning all countries of the region against Turkey and severely damaging his country's ties with NATO and the European Union. But a part from that everything's fine. (or not)

 

[Glass]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234814104134717441

Have u ever tought that it might be ur media downplaying the situation, as we speak refugees passing in the thousands the border while milions inside Turkey are mobilized

 

[Constantin84]

We all remember how Putin was an ally of Turkey and how the whole western world was the enemy of Turkey. Turkey turned its back to its real partners by trying to play on both sides and buddying with Russia.... But instead got played by the same Russians. Erdogan thought there was a fool in the Kremlin. And now he's asking indeed the former ones he spat on for help. Well it backfired,didn't it ?

Erdogan has surely achieved something. Turning all countries of the region against Turkey and severely damaging his country's ties with NATO and the European Union. But a part from that everything's fine. (or not)

This is actually a God send for Greece......10 years ago they were booed as beggers and lazy but today all of Europe stands by them.The wannabe sultan's plan will backfire bad

 

[American Pakistani]

Look my friend,debating with them is like talking to a wall. This will be always your fault no matter what. You intervene in a muslim country and you are doomed and cursed. You don't intervene in a muslim country we are doomed and cursed,they are asking where are we and why we don't intervene in front of an uncoming massacre. (Which was the case in Libya)

This guy is talking about Libya. That's none of our fault if the locals can't get along to form a government of national unity and bogus warlords + doubtful groups start to slaughter each others to dominate the country.

Not our fault when locals among many arab countries wanted to join the arab spring movement but their leaders answered with tanks. Bashar with his Russian and Iranian buddies are carpet bombing Syria towns after towns,but somehow that's our fault.

Can you post the source where Muslim countries asked you to bomb their land.

Nobody ever ask Russians or Chinese to help buy you guys? Oh please.

 

[Glass]

and the flow continues

https://twitter.com/x/status/1234730037326336003

130k have so far left and that in a matter of days

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Look my friend,debating with them is like talking to a wall. This will be always your fault no matter what. You intervene in a muslim country and you are doomed and cursed. You don't intervene in a muslim country we are doomed and cursed,they are asking where are we and why we don't intervene in front of an uncoming massacre. (Which was the case in Libya)

Don't interfere in places which have nothing to do with you. You reserve the right to bomb and murder innocents, replace governments, support dictators or terrorist groups, and put sanctions on these countries.

Simple solution: Stop creating more refugees.

West is foolish and unbelievable, they have high standards of living (from historical monopolies) and relatively stable politics, but they want to throw all of this away for ideological wars against impoverished and weak Muslim/Christian countries in Africa, Eastern Europe, Middle East, Asia, and Latin America, South America.

These people do not know how to live in peace with anyone, they are their own worst enemies.

If they don't want refugees headed their way, backtrack on their own rhetoric of freedom, land of opportunity, best country of the world, and accept the selfish, racist nature of their civilizations.

I would personally not advise any sensible person to immigrate to these fascist in waiting countries.

Plenty of people in Pakistan are over their love affair with the US and Europe, and now many people refuse to even consider immigration abroad. We are not blind to Trump, Brexit, and France. I am quite happy to see it.

 

[Nilgiri]

^^ "I would personally not advise any sensible person to immigrate to these fascist in waiting countries."

*Says that while living in one, wont self-deport* ..... hypocrisy meter, you know what to do.