Greek Affairs & Military Procurements

[bsruzm]

"Is Turkey Blocking Greek Research Ships with GPS Jammer?

On 17 May 2018, an o-shore supply ship anchored in Limassol port, South Cyprus lost GPS signal for a long time. Later, the same ship lost GPS signal once more in Limassol port between 18-22 March 2018. After that when the ship left Limassol harbour and sailed to south on 22 March 2018, GPS system started to work.

Consecutive Events Between 18-23 March 2018, same o-shore supply ship while approaching to Larnaca from West and while anchored in Larnaca, there was the same problem periodically and GPS system was completely lost. When the ship left the port on 24 March 2018 and sailed to 16 miles o the shore of South Cyprus, GPS system started to work again. Between 18-24 March 2018, an o-shore ship lost GPS systems again near Limassol port. Between 19-23 March 2018, 2 o-shore support ships experienced GPS jam and lost their position while sailing towards the northern part of Egypt.

On 23 March 2018, US MARAD organisation broadcasted 2018-004A warning and stated that there was GPS jamming around 32-24. 0N 029-29.9E between 18-22 March. Additionally, 5 other ships experienced same problems and a plane ying between Port Said and South Cyprus also reported GPS jamming problem. South Cyprus and Egypt made a deal for petrol search. During February and March, South Cyprus and Egypt signed a protocol for common petrol search and excavating 4.5 trillion cubic metre of gas from Aphrodite deposit. Again, based on news published on open-source i.e. newspapers and journals, Turkish War Ship blocked Italian energy search ship Eni while sailing to east of South Cyprus. The same ship stated that there were blockages 2 weeks ago while searching. On 15 July 1974, Turkey organised an attack to the island where Greek-Cyprus citizens lived. After this attack, on 20 July 1974, currently known Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) was formed after the invasion of Turkey. For United Nations, TRNC is known as invading nation in Cyprus and only accepted by Turkey. Cyprus citizens with Greek descendants live in an area that is internationally known and this place is known as Cyprus. Cyprus (South Cyprus) signed Enhanced Economic Zone agreement in Egypt and Israel.

Turkey has no permission for petroleum and gas searches without consent of TRNC and Turkish War ships physically prevent Cyprus citizens with Greek descendants to directly involve in searches as of 2017. Global Positioning System or GPS was developed by American government in 1955 and introduced in American air system. According to this system, receivers receive positions from at least 3 satellites, form a triangle, and determine the position after calculations. Calculated position presents the position based on numbers/datum reference. GPS signal is a type of radio signal and constantly broadcasts from satellites to Earth. As satellites move away from orbit, system gets weaker and when satellites are positioned 12.000 mile above the ground, the system increases the strength. This changes based on atmosphere conditions. GPS blocking system or commonly known as Jammer, creates sound waves (noise), and mixes GPS signals. This way, errors occur when calculating x position

In addition to land-based systems, military ships has GPS Jammers. For example, submarines, and drone type air equipment have these systems as well. Various anti-jammer systems frequencies used in military are thought in Turkey as electronic war systems for decades. As a result, position calculation obtained from GPS is extremely important while pipeline are installed in petroleum and gas searchers. Especially, it becomes more important while searching in 1000-metre depth. O-shore supply ships also known as DP ships commonly visits search and scanning areas and work in these areas. When position cannot be obtained due to Jammer, it is called weapons or deadly weapons in o-shore petroleum and gas searching and causes undesired delays in these works. Limassol and Larnaca ports are main logistic ports of Greek side of Cyprus and they are also o-shore petroleum and gas logistic points of (South) Cyprus Republic. Such blocking around 16 miles away from Cyprus and Egypt show that MULTIPLE Jammers are simultaneously implemented. It is almost certainly possible that Turkish War ships will do the same in the future. GPS blocking system is a multi-functional tool and blocks o-shore petroleum and gas searches without political or deadly threats.

Source: Norwegian Shipowner’s Mutual War Risk Insurance Association"

Is Turkey Blocking Greek Research Ships with GPS Jammer?

 

[Test7]

 

[bsruzm]

Egypt, Greece seek to boost military cooperation

Greece: Turkish minority marks resistance day

 

[Oublious]

"Is Turkey Blocking Greek Research Ships with GPS Jammer?

On 17 May 2018, an o-shore supply ship anchored in Limassol port, South Cyprus lost GPS signal for a long time. Later, the same ship lost GPS signal once more in Limassol port between 18-22 March 2018. After that when the ship left Limassol harbour and sailed to south on 22 March 2018, GPS system started to work.

Consecutive Events Between 18-23 March 2018, same o-shore supply ship while approaching to Larnaca from West and while anchored in Larnaca, there was the same problem periodically and GPS system was completely lost. When the ship left the port on 24 March 2018 and sailed to 16 miles o the shore of South Cyprus, GPS system started to work again. Between 18-24 March 2018, an o-shore ship lost GPS systems again near Limassol port. Between 19-23 March 2018, 2 o-shore support ships experienced GPS jam and lost their position while sailing towards the northern part of Egypt.

On 23 March 2018, US MARAD organisation broadcasted 2018-004A warning and stated that there was GPS jamming around 32-24. 0N 029-29.9E between 18-22 March. Additionally, 5 other ships experienced same problems and a plane ying between Port Said and South Cyprus also reported GPS jamming problem. South Cyprus and Egypt made a deal for petrol search. During February and March, South Cyprus and Egypt signed a protocol for common petrol search and excavating 4.5 trillion cubic metre of gas from Aphrodite deposit. Again, based on news published on open-source i.e. newspapers and journals, Turkish War Ship blocked Italian energy search ship Eni while sailing to east of South Cyprus. The same ship stated that there were blockages 2 weeks ago while searching. On 15 July 1974, Turkey organised an attack to the island where Greek-Cyprus citizens lived. After this attack, on 20 July 1974, currently known Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) was formed after the invasion of Turkey. For United Nations, TRNC is known as invading nation in Cyprus and only accepted by Turkey. Cyprus citizens with Greek descendants live in an area that is internationally known and this place is known as Cyprus. Cyprus (South Cyprus) signed Enhanced Economic Zone agreement in Egypt and Israel.

Turkey has no permission for petroleum and gas searches without consent of TRNC and Turkish War ships physically prevent Cyprus citizens with Greek descendants to directly involve in searches as of 2017. Global Positioning System or GPS was developed by American government in 1955 and introduced in American air system. According to this system, receivers receive positions from at least 3 satellites, form a triangle, and determine the position after calculations. Calculated position presents the position based on numbers/datum reference. GPS signal is a type of radio signal and constantly broadcasts from satellites to Earth. As satellites move away from orbit, system gets weaker and when satellites are positioned 12.000 mile above the ground, the system increases the strength. This changes based on atmosphere conditions. GPS blocking system or commonly known as Jammer, creates sound waves (noise), and mixes GPS signals. This way, errors occur when calculating x position

In addition to land-based systems, military ships has GPS Jammers. For example, submarines, and drone type air equipment have these systems as well. Various anti-jammer systems frequencies used in military are thought in Turkey as electronic war systems for decades. As a result, position calculation obtained from GPS is extremely important while pipeline are installed in petroleum and gas searchers. Especially, it becomes more important while searching in 1000-metre depth. O-shore supply ships also known as DP ships commonly visits search and scanning areas and work in these areas. When position cannot be obtained due to Jammer, it is called weapons or deadly weapons in o-shore petroleum and gas searching and causes undesired delays in these works. Limassol and Larnaca ports are main logistic ports of Greek side of Cyprus and they are also o-shore petroleum and gas logistic points of (South) Cyprus Republic. Such blocking around 16 miles away from Cyprus and Egypt show that MULTIPLE Jammers are simultaneously implemented. It is almost certainly possible that Turkish War ships will do the same in the future. GPS blocking system is a multi-functional tool and blocks o-shore petroleum and gas searches without political or deadly threats.

Source: Norwegian Shipowner’s Mutual War Risk Insurance Association"

Is Turkey Blocking Greek Research Ships with GPS Jammer?

This is why Subs with Jamming capabilities are important. Not only jamming with SIGINT mission load, wich subs have the capabilities in our navy?

Egypt, Greece seek to boost military cooperation

Greece: Turkish minority marks resistance day

Kids of Phoara will buried in the sea. Stay away from our gasfields.

 

[Oublious]

https://www.janes.com/article/65263/submarine-esm-success-indodef16-d3

 

[bsruzm]

This is why Subs with Jamming capabilities are important. Not only jamming with SIGINT mission load, wich subs have the capabilities in our navy?

I don't know but ASELSAN's ECM/EA System (AREAS-2NC) has directional RF radiation enabling deceptive and noise jamming techniques in a dynamic threat environment.
Then:
Aselsan has successfully delivered the first indigenous electronic warfare system for Yavuz class frigates. (December 6, 2017)

MEHS offers Naval Electronic Attack System.

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"A recent spate of bombings in Greece has authorities warning about the danger of increased violence from urban anarchist groups." (Dec. 27, 2018)
Recent Explosions in Greece Spark Worries of Emerging Urban Violence

 

[Quasar]

For the record,

To open a thread with a direct name of a non-Turk country at the title of the thread about its affairs in the Turk defence section cannot be explained by the Morality and Logic or Forum structure and rules.

@WebMaster Will you please change the title or move it to the Europe Section?

Thanks.

just a friendly advise; having personal issues with the Turkish Mod and waging a childish war against him by polluting threads in Turkish section is against the ''Morality and Logic or Forum structure and rules.'' Stop acting like a kid!

 

[cabatli_53]

For the record,

To open a thread with a direct name of a non-Turk country at the title of the thread about its affairs in the Turk defence section cannot be explained by the Morality and Logic or Forum structure and rules.

@WebMaster Will you please change the title or move it to the Europe Section?

Thanks.

Thread ban issued. If you put your nose into the affairs that has nothing to do with you in this section, I will issue another penalty for you. Just friendly advice, Care your own business in this forum instead of disturbing the section with messing with members.

 

[CAN_TR]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1107863550876418048

 

[UkroTurk]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1107863550876418048

They have deserved to be watched from s400!

 

[bsruzm]

"Shane Burley: The book is structured around five different European countries, Italy, Slovakia, Germany, Croatia, and Greece and it chronicles the flourishing of far-right populism and fascist violence across Europe. What do you think is responsible for the explosive growth of European populist parties and these anti-immigrant, far-right social movements?

Patrick Strickland: I think it varies quite a bit from country to country. The refugee crisis was a really convenient catalyst for some far-right groups, especially those that were already rooted in anti-migrant, anti-refugee or anti-Muslim sentiment. The Alternative for Deutschland (AfD) party in Germany, for instance, started out as a Eurosceptic, far-right party, less focused on broad politics. When the refugee influx really picked up in 2013 they were able to capitalize on it in a way that won them a significant number of seats in the parliament during the 2017 elections, a total of 94 out of 598, or 12.6 percent of the total vote .

In Greece, however, the far-right has not grown in the last couple of years. Golden Dawn has never tried to disguise themselves; to put on a populist mask like other far-right parties have. So they have not been able to capitalize on racist responses to the influx of refugees. They had their biggest success when they capitalized on the traditional left’s failed response towards the Greek economic crisis and austerity. From all that we can see, and there are other factors of course, currently they receive about the same amount of support — between 6 and 9 percent —as in 2012, when they first entered parliament, and in 2015, when they had another strong showing.

Do you think that Golden Dawn just had their moment of fame too early, and they missed the populist wave that helped out far-right parties later on in places like France, Germany and Austria?

With Golden Dawn I think one of the biggest factors is that they have been on trial for several years since themurder of Pavlos Fyssas in September 2013. Their entire 2013 parliamentary group and their leadership — a total of 69 members — are on trial, so it is huge. It is an existential challenge for them and the trial will decide if they are a political party or a criminal organization. While it has not stopped Golden Dawn from continuing to carry out violence, it has, to a degree, stopped them from accumulating political support.

In Greece there is also an especially militant and effective antifascist movement that has managed to confront them just about any time they organize in the streets. Obviously, the antifascist organizingis not just direct confrontation, but I do not think I have ever seen a Golden Dawn rally or a far-right rally in Greece that has not been challenged by counter-protesters; antifascists of varying stripes.

What do you think has made antifascism so successful in Greece and where do you think it is going now?

I think it is rooted in the country’s history and can be traced back to the resistance to the Nazi occupation of Greece, which was particularly brutal. There was also the country’s civil war in the immediate wake of WWII, and the military junta of its recent past, so many Greeks have actually lived under authoritarian and fascist rule. The military junta did not collapse until 1974 and the events responsible for its collapse were put into motion by a student uprising at the Athens Polytechnic University. So there you also have the lived experience of successful popular resistance.

It is hard to say where antifascism in Greece will go, just like it is hard to say what will happen with Golden Dawn and other far-right parties. I cannot say one way or the other what will happen if they are prosecuted, if that will lead to their street supporters packing up their bags or if it will lead to more violence. We also do not know if it will lead to a splintering of their supporters — as we have already seen with some of the other far-right parties in Greece. Cheap imitations of the British Combat 18, neo-Nazi groups likeCrypteia, but they have not tried to build a big popular base like Golden Dawn did.

Antifascists in Greece were up against a party that very openly, until very recently, identified as National Socialist. So there was no debate over the nuances of whether or not some groups should really be considered fascist. It was obvious; they did Nazi salutes, they said what they wanted, they said who they were in their literature. They never tried to rebrand themselves and they would not be able to if they tried. So, in that regard, it was easier to build a broader coalition of left and anti-authoritarian groups that converged into an antifascist movement."

Europe’s Antifascists Prepare to Fight Against the Far Right

 

[Nein]

"Shane Burley: The book is structured around five different European countries, Italy, Slovakia, Germany, Croatia, and Greece and it chronicles the flourishing of far-right populism and fascist violence across Europe. What do you think is responsible for the explosive growth of European populist parties and these anti-immigrant, far-right social movements?

Patrick Strickland: I think it varies quite a bit from country to country. The refugee crisis was a really convenient catalyst for some far-right groups, especially those that were already rooted in anti-migrant, anti-refugee or anti-Muslim sentiment. The Alternative for Deutschland (AfD) party in Germany, for instance, started out as a Eurosceptic, far-right party, less focused on broad politics. When the refugee influx really picked up in 2013 they were able to capitalize on it in a way that won them a significant number of seats in the parliament during the 2017 elections, a total of 94 out of 598, or 12.6 percent of the total vote .

In Greece, however, the far-right has not grown in the last couple of years. Golden Dawn has never tried to disguise themselves; to put on a populist mask like other far-right parties have. So they have not been able to capitalize on racist responses to the influx of refugees. They had their biggest success when they capitalized on the traditional left’s failed response towards the Greek economic crisis and austerity. From all that we can see, and there are other factors of course, currently they receive about the same amount of support — between 6 and 9 percent —as in 2012, when they first entered parliament, and in 2015, when they had another strong showing.

Do you think that Golden Dawn just had their moment of fame too early, and they missed the populist wave that helped out far-right parties later on in places like France, Germany and Austria?

With Golden Dawn I think one of the biggest factors is that they have been on trial for several years since themurder of Pavlos Fyssas in September 2013. Their entire 2013 parliamentary group and their leadership — a total of 69 members — are on trial, so it is huge. It is an existential challenge for them and the trial will decide if they are a political party or a criminal organization. While it has not stopped Golden Dawn from continuing to carry out violence, it has, to a degree, stopped them from accumulating political support.

In Greece there is also an especially militant and effective antifascist movement that has managed to confront them just about any time they organize in the streets. Obviously, the antifascist organizingis not just direct confrontation, but I do not think I have ever seen a Golden Dawn rally or a far-right rally in Greece that has not been challenged by counter-protesters; antifascists of varying stripes.

What do you think has made antifascism so successful in Greece and where do you think it is going now?

I think it is rooted in the country’s history and can be traced back to the resistance to the Nazi occupation of Greece, which was particularly brutal. There was also the country’s civil war in the immediate wake of WWII, and the military junta of its recent past, so many Greeks have actually lived under authoritarian and fascist rule. The military junta did not collapse until 1974 and the events responsible for its collapse were put into motion by a student uprising at the Athens Polytechnic University. So there you also have the lived experience of successful popular resistance.

It is hard to say where antifascism in Greece will go, just like it is hard to say what will happen with Golden Dawn and other far-right parties. I cannot say one way or the other what will happen if they are prosecuted, if that will lead to their street supporters packing up their bags or if it will lead to more violence. We also do not know if it will lead to a splintering of their supporters — as we have already seen with some of the other far-right parties in Greece. Cheap imitations of the British Combat 18, neo-Nazi groups likeCrypteia, but they have not tried to build a big popular base like Golden Dawn did.

Antifascists in Greece were up against a party that very openly, until very recently, identified as National Socialist. So there was no debate over the nuances of whether or not some groups should really be considered fascist. It was obvious; they did Nazi salutes, they said what they wanted, they said who they were in their literature. They never tried to rebrand themselves and they would not be able to if they tried. So, in that regard, it was easier to build a broader coalition of left and anti-authoritarian groups that converged into an antifascist movement."

Europe’s Antifascists Prepare to Fight Against the Far Right

Never thought I have to say this but as Turks we need to back the Antifas on this.

Because if the far right become stronger and they will unite and attack Turkey

 

[bsruzm]

After trilateral summit, leaders agree to defend against 'malign influences' in region

 

[cabatli_53]

I admire this guy !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1108805291544592384

 

[Mert_Ank]

I admire this guy !

https://twitter.com/x/status/1108805291544592384

he knows whats coming