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Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

You struggle to developp a 1500HP engine for your MBT. A fighter engine is another beast, really.
Betwwen the plan and the real result there may be a deep gap. Ask China why they used so many time and money just to have a fade copy of russian engine.


China used so many time and money to develop western type turbofan Engine with single crystal blade technology

Russian AL-31 turbofan engine use different technology ( conventionally cast blades ) , instead of single crystal blade technology


Turkiye is one of 6 Countries in the World that has single crystal blade and bliks-spool manufacturing technologies for aviation engines



WELL DONE great Turkish Defense Industry



Turkiye has started developing 1500 hp BMC BATU diesel Engine in 2018
and was successfully fired for the first time in 2021

According to President of Defence Industry Agency ALTAY Tank will be powered by 1500 hp indigenous Engine in 2024

2018-2024 ( 6 years for developing a 1500 hp diesel Engine )

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TS-1400 Turboshaft Engine
Turkiye has started developing TS-1400 turboshaft Engine in 2017

According to President of Defence Industry Agency T-625 Helicopter will be powered by TS-1400 turboshaft Engine in 2023
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TEI-TF6000 Turbofan Engine

TEI-TF6000, with 6000 lbf dry thrust. The engine, designed to support the TEI-TF10000-A/B configuration as the afterburner version, will provide 10000 lbf thrust together with the afterburner and will be able to reach the forces needed for supersonic flights to power unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

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TEI and TR-MOTOR have already started developing indigenous turbofan Engine for the TFX Fighter Jet

President of defense industry ISMAIL DEMİR said, We also had the possibility of working with Rolls-Royce for the national engine for the TFX
 
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You really can't compare ESSM and SM1 with ASTER 15/30.

Hellenic Navy doesnt have any ASTER-15/30 , maybe in future

as of 2022 , Turkish Navy has 672 SAMs , while Hellenic Navy has only 208 SAMs


Turkish HISAR-RF and SIPER air defense Missiles for the upcoming ISTIF class Frigate and TF-2000 class Destroyer

50 km HISAR-RF
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70 km SIPER block-0 and 120-150 km SIPER block-1
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Hellenic Navy never can match with the Turkish Navy which is the strongest Navy in the region


Hellenic Navy 3 FDI Frigates in 2025-2026


32 x ASTER SAMs
21 x RAM
8 x EXOCET anti-ship Missiles


Turkish Navy 4 ISTIF and 4 MEKO-200TM Frigates in 2025-2026

-- 64 x ESSM SAMs ..... ( 8 x SIPER + 32 x HISAR-RF SAMs )
-- KORKUT 35mm CIWS .... ( PHALANX 20 mm CIWS + KORKUT 35mm CIWS )
-- 16 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles

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FALSE !
After the 1st Gulf war, the north of Irak was protected by the allies against irakis. It was the Northern Watch operation.
Each allies country (or group of countries) has a day in the week to air patrol.
When it was the day of Turkish "peacefull" missions, no awacs fly or other ally fly was allowed from turkish top brass (possible because main of the allies fighters and awacs were host on the Ircirlik air base).
The Belgium pilots and French pilots flew the day before and the day after the turkish... And they exchange pictures of some groud target before and after the turkish patrols : you used these so peacefull missions to destroy kurds targets, in total violation with your mandat, and to do so by restraining your airspace.

My source? A Jaguar french pilot, husband of a friend of my wife. He showed me pictures....

Iraq ops. both in 1991 and 2003 were not NATO operations.

Again Turkiye has never closed airspace to NATO operations unlike France did many times.
 
All NATO is behind Greece.

Only in your dreams .... Nobody will fight Turkiye for Greece


Turkish F-16s and KC-135 with American B-52 Bomber performed a flight mission in the Eastern Mediterranean as part of the NATO "Presence Operations". 23.08.2022
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Turkish Frigate TCG KEMALREIS, assigned to NATO Standing Naval Task Group-2 which conducted trainings with American USS FORREST SHERMAN, Spanish JUAN DE BORBON and German FGS BONN in the Aegean .. 21.08.2022
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at the end of the day , Turkiye is more important NATO member than useless Greece
 
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Hellenic Navy doesnt have any ASTER-15/30 , maybe in future
I was answering to your comparison between turkish and french navy. About Greece, the FDI frigates will have ASTER 30.

China used so many time and money to develop western type turbofan Engine with single crystal blade technology

Russian AL-31 turbofan engine use different technology ( conventionally cast blades ) , instead of single crystal blade technology


Turkiye is one of 6 Countries in the World that has single crystal blade and bliks-spool manufacturing technologies for aviation engines



WELL DONE great Turkish Defense Industry



Turkiye has started developing 1500 hp BMC BATU diesel Engine in 2018
and was successfully fired for the first time in 2021

According to President of Defence Industry Agency ALTAY Tank will be powered by 1500 hp indigenous Engine in 2024

2018-2024 ( 6 years for developing a 1500 hp diesel Engine )

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TS-1400 Turboshaft Engine
Turkiye has started developing TS-1400 turboshaft Engine in 2017

According to President of Defence Industry Agency T-625 Helicopter will be powered by TS-1400 turboshaft Engine in 2023
View attachment 873079


TEI-TF6000 Turbofan Engine

TEI-TF6000, with 6000 lbf dry thrust. The engine, designed to support the TEI-TF10000-A/B configuration as the afterburner version, will provide 10000 lbf thrust together with the afterburner and will be able to reach the forces needed for supersonic flights to power unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

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TEI and TR-MOTOR have already started developing indigenous turbofan Engine for the TFX Fighter Jet

President of defense industry ISMAIL DEMİR said, We also had the possibility of working with Rolls-Royce for the national engine for the TFX
We will see if the announced delays will be respected.

China used so many time and money to develop western type turbofan Engine with single crystal blade technology
As far as I know, WS10 is just a copy of russian engine, with less life.
Chinese engine life << Russian engine life << West engine life.

Iraq ops. both in 1991 and 2003 were not NATO operations.
it was UN operations. Far damaging !
 
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Nobody will fight Turkiye for Greece
You are wrong.
The Erdogan's turkey is more and more seen as a foe.
To be clear, we all hope that Erdogan be fired. With 60% inflation, it is on the right track.
 
You are wrong.
The Erdogan's turkey is more and more seen as a foe.
To be clear, we all hope that Erdogan be fired. With 60% inflation, it is on the right track.

ATATURK also kicked same enemies France,Greece 100 years ago
 
ATATURK also kicked same enemies France,Greece 100 years ago
what you're being blamed for : you consider your alliance allies (at least supposed to do) as enemies, so don't be surprised we are doing the same.

It's not a greece ship that seach oil & gas in total contradiction in oriental med. It's not a french frigate that open its fire radar more than one time against another frigate needed to control a commercial ship that, it's now cristal clear, violate the UN embargo. => This is the Erdogan's Turkey.

at the end of the day , Turkiye is more important NATO member than useless Greece
You just are the usefull idiot of uncle Sam.
Once he will not have the need of, you will be scrap.
 
S400 40N6E Missile has max firing range of 380 km even can hit Hellenic Air Force AEWCs over Athens

PATRIOT PAC2 has maximum firing range of 150-160 km which can not hit Turkish F-16s armed with 280 km SOM and SLAM-ER Cruise Missiles

Even 250 km range can block all Aegean against Hellenic Air Force


btw even outdated S200 kicked İsraeli F-16 in Syria

o_O
 
what you're being blamed for : you consider your alliance allies (at least supposed to do) as enemies, so don't be surprised we are doing the same.

And Turks will give another lesson to you


It's not a greece ship that seach oil & gas in total contradiction in oriental med. It's not a french frigate that open its fire radar more than one time against another frigate needed to control a commercial ship that, it's now cristal clear, violate the UN embargo. => This is the Erdogan's Turkey.

YES , it's now cristal clear, violate the UN embargo.

France , Russia , The UAE deployed tons of weapons in Libya to help HAFTAR to attack on the UN recognized legal Libyan government in Tripoli

but Erdogan's Turkiye entered Libya and kicked all invaders/terrorists

You just are the usefull idiot of uncle Sam.
Once he will not have the need of, you will be scrap.

You are talking about Greece


Turkiye kicked uncle Sam in Syria
Turkiye kicked uncle Sam's PKK/YPG and FETO Terrorists
Turkiye bought S400

uncle Sam can not use Erdogan's Turkiye
 

o_O

Iranian general is crying about S400

but Israel attack on İranian and Syrian targets in Syria
and Russia doesnt use S400s against Israel for İran

attack on Russian air base in Syria , and see what will happen
 
And Turks will give another lesson to you




YES , it's now cristal clear, violate the UN embargo.

France , Russia , The UAE deployed tons of weapons in Libya to help HAFTAR to attack on the UN recognized legal Libyan government in Tripoli

but Erdogan's Turkiye entered Libya and kicked all invaders/terrorists



You are talking about Greece


Turkiye kicked uncle Sam in Syria
Turkiye kicked uncle Sam's PKK/YPG and FETO Terrorists
Turkiye bought S400

uncle Sam can not use Erdogan's Turkiye
PITYFULL.
 
SİPER Air Defense System hit the target from 90+ km



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Possible to have pics of the missile itself?

SIPER Block-0 missile with range of almost 100 km
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HISAR-RF , SIPER , HISAR-O
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in 2018 , Turkiye signed an agreement with EUROSAM to develop Air Defense System but MACRON blocked agreement in 2020

MACRON thought that Turkiye could not develop Air Defense missiles
 
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