Featured Govt moves amendment bill in NA: Ridiculing armed forces, personnel to be a crime

[El Sidd]

Nice.

Hope someone interviews populist leaders like Niazi and Bilawal about role of the armed forces in the country.

I suggest Amanpour or Gorani

 

[alee92nawaz]

A bill introduced against the blaspheme of Armed Forces and its members.
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http://na.gov.pk/uploads/documents/1600179373_877.pdf

What would be the definition of "member"; army personnel? Retired or serving??
What if someone want to initiate a criminal case against any army personal??

Bullshitt. What the hell is going on? They have captured almost every institution by inserting some general in it and now this.

 

[El Sidd]

True.. we do need stronger laws..

What is the legal procedure for when a PM accuses the armed forces for creating Al Qaeda?

 

[Syed1.]

It's a private member's bill not moved by the government. Request mods to edit thread title so that it is accurate. @PDF

 

[Syed1.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1306107822762065921

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

What is the legal procedure for when a PM accuses the armed forces for creating Al Qaeda?

There isn't one because the PM wasn't the PM when he said and its an open secret that we created Mujahideen which later on separated into southern and northern alliances and also Al Qaeda..

Secondly it wasnt just Pakistan but USA and saudis who were involved in it... against Soviets..

As for legal procedure there isn't one as what he said was true..

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

Quite a comprehensive comment brother. What a bullshit rule, there are already rules for defamation but they have to create a separation between bloody civilians and gernailz.

Bahi it was moved by a private member not govt as for defamation rules they need amending and being followed upon... and there is no bloody civilians and gernails... we are creating our own fault lines now instead fixing em

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

puppet PTI provnig to be loyal to its master nothing else. speaking against corruption of 20 or 15 grade officer is blasphemy now, why not the same case with every other government officer as well?

regards

It wasnt presented by PTI... and criticism is not the problem propaganda is

 

[TheSnakeEatingMarkhur]

is posting memes about armed forces against the law now?
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criticism is a good thing.

Memes/criticism is not the problem... propaganda is

 

[Kraetoz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/469198709004066816

Banda kis say sawal puchay iss mulk mein?

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

It's a private member's bill not moved by the government. Request mods to edit thread title so that it is accurate. @PDF

It is a private member bill but has full support by the government. It was not presented on the which is called private members day, it was not agenda of NA, it was presented by bulldozing all the rules and regulations.

 

[arjunk]

Pakistan slowly becoming North Korea. Under IK of all people. If we have martial law let's hope Bajwa is good at running the country.

 

[PradoTLC]

A bill introduced against the blaspheme of Armed Forces and its members.
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http://na.gov.pk/uploads/documents/1600179373_877.pdf

What would be the definition of "member"; army personnel? Retired or serving??
What if someone want to initiate a criminal case against any army personal??

good

this should send 90% of noonie kind to jail.

 

[Rank]

Turkey
"Civilian and military prosecutors in the "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" have accused five journalists insulting the army. They face 10 to 40 years in prison."

France
Speech may also be limited to protect, to a certain extent, the country’s institutions. The Law of 29 July 1881 provides that “defamation . . . against the courts, the tribunals, the army, navy or air force, the state bodies and public administrations, shall be punished by a fine of 45,000 Euros).

Art. 27:prohibits publication, distribution or reproduction of false or fabricated news, or news wrongly attributed to third parties, where this is done in bad faith and the news undermines or is susceptible to undermining public peace. A fine of 45,000 euros (approx. US$58,500) applies. When false news may undermine the discipline and morale of the army or hinder the war effort, the fine may reach 135,000 euros (approx. US$175,500).

Art. 30:provides that defamation of the courts, armed forces, established bodies and public administrations, by a means listed in Art. 23, is punishable by a fine of 45,000 euros (approx. US$58,500)


Lebanon
"A Lebanese journalist has been sentenced in absentia to six months in prison for insulting the army"


Egypt
Art. 184 provides for imprisonment, a fine ranging from 5,000 to 10,000 Egyptian pounds (approx. US$880-1760), or both for anyone who insults “the People's Assembly or the Shura Council or other statutory bodies, the army or the courts or authorities or public interests."

"The nephew of the late President Anwar Sadat was sentenced to a year in prison for defaming Egypt's armed forces"
"Egypt jails teenager for defaming military"

Art. 35:Truth of the defamatory fact, solely if it relates to their functions,may be established by normal means for allegations against established bodies, the armed forces, public administrations and against all those listed in Art. 31


Bahrian
Art. 216: A penalty of imprisonment or payment of a fine shall be imposed on anyone who offends by any method of expression the National Assembly, other constitutional institutions, the army, courts of law, authorities or government agencies

Moroco
Art. 45: Defamation of the courts, tribunals, the army, navy or air force, constituted bodies, or the government of Morocco, by one of the means specified in Art. 38, is punishable by imprisonment of one month to one year, a fine of 1,200 to 100,000 dirhams (approx. US$152-$12,700), or both.

Congo
Art. 77: prohibits insulting the Head of State.
Art. 78: includes in the definition of treason knowingly participating in an effort to demoralize the army or the public in the goal of national defense.

Venezuela
Article 505. One who in any form insults, offends or shows contempt for the National Armed Forces or one of its units shall incur a penalty of three to eight years in prison.


Tunisia
A Tunisian military court has sentenced a blogger to one year in prison on charges he insulted the army

You can't even say a word against Armed forces in China, Russia, and Saudi Arabia.

 

[hamilcar of carthage]

Nobody needs to defame what is already defamed. They should work on getting their image better.