Govt. eases citizenship rules for Pak refugees.

[Devil Soul]

after reading the comments i was jus wondering why did the indians jew opted to go2 Israel....

 

[Sunnny]

see this video...

 

[Safriz]

see this video...

Its normal for asylum seekers in any country..Not just India to come up with emotional stories to support their Immigration case...
Thats exactly what they are doing...

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Nop...unlike you googling kids..we thye grown ups have real life experiences....

Your real life experience is still an unverified anecdote on pdf

I will believe Kakgeta and superkaif though.

 

[IPL5]

Yaar i lost one of my best friends in the riots - very sad. Mohammad Aswat.
Safraz bhai - if someone wants to leave then its a matter for them - what i find incredible is the desire to go to the trouble of changing the title by the OP to score cheap points - if we start doing tit for tat - we potentially would run out of band width...

sirjee, we have also lost our loved ones in pakistan. Minority population in pakistan has kept on decreasing but in India it is increasing. I'm still awaiting a reply from zakii after giving me infraction he didn't change the title . Is that possible to change the title or not ?

 

[Safriz]

Your real life experience is still an unverified anecdote on pdf

I will believe Kakgeta and superkaif though.

Lol..yes cant disagree on that...on PDF one has to post links,but i cant be arsed really...

 

[sangsharma]

after reading the comments i was jus wondering why did the indians jew opted to go2 Israel....

Source please.

 

[Sunnny]

Its normal for asylum seekers in any country..Not just India to come up with emotional stories to support their Immigration case...
Thats exactly what they are doing...

i read a lot of stories in express tribune
There are many who are in paksitan saying same thing

@safriz,

a quite rich family from sindh lives few kms away from my house
They tell same things.Now they run local business here and quite happy

 

[Black Widow]

In my view hindus and hindu like religions followers should be made default citizen of india.

 

[K-Xeroid]

Never mind, we will take care of them. I hope they miss pakistan for right reasons. Look

Over 700 Pakistanis got Indian citizenship

NEW DELHI: More than 700 Pakistanis have acquired Indian citizenship in the last three years, the Lok Sabha was informed Tuesday.

In a written answer, Minister of State for Home Mullappally Ramachandran said while 321 Pakistanis got the citizenship in 2009, the figure dropped to 150 in 2010 but rose to 300 in 2011.

The government rejected 31 applications in 2009, 54 in 2010 and 14 in 2011.

Among Afghans, 284 became Indian citizens in 2009. The figure dropped to nine in 2010 and rose to 14 in 2011.
Over 700 Pakistanis got Indian citizenship - Times Of India

But India still have one of the largest population which settled in other nations for long term... Wats new in that? I don't know wat makes bhartis so delighted in that article. When their own citizens dying to get the citizenship of foriegn nations.

 

[Icarus]

see this video...

Would you give me asylum if I gave you the following story:

"I went to a prestigious private school, received my doctorate from King's College. I have an Italian Style apartment in Islamabad with a beautiful view of the Margalla. I drive a revamped Honda City 1996 fitted with a 1800cc engine and my girlfriend is the daughter of a cement tycoon. I work with a private security firm and have a salary exceeding US$500 per day when the increment is added."

You naturally need a sob story to get an asylum application through!

 

[karan.1970]

We must introduce best title award on PDF, Many people are working hard and their innovation skills must be appreciated

No contest.. Give that award to Aryan and Hafizz in a tie for next 10 years..

 

[Safriz]

i read a lot of stories in express tribune
There are many who are in paksitan saying same thing

and then take the paper cutting on the next flight to india and present it to immigration official as supporting evidence of their Asylem?
All these stories are paid for by the wana be Indians from Pakistan..mainly for Financial reasons...as economy of India is better than Pakistan..Its not because of any actual oppression or discrimination.
Some cases are genuine,but that's not specifically due to them being Hindus but other factors such as Federalism and poverty are involved.

 

[Devil Soul]

Source please.

India's 'lost tribe' dreams of return to Israel
By AFP
Published: March 29, 2012
CHURACHANDPUR, INDIA: In a synagogue in northeast India, a group of men pray for the chance to “return home” to a country they have never seen and which their ancestors fled nearly 3,000 years ago.
“India is not our country,” says Haniel Reuben, 72, one of the eldest members of a tiny community that claims to have descended from the Manasseh — one of the biblical “lost tribes” of Israel exiled in 720 BC by Assyrian conquerors.
“Our forefathers migrated and settled here. Our home is Israel and we will be reunited with our people one day or another,” Reuben said.
The Bnei Menashe, as the community is known, comprise around 7,200 members of the Kuki-Chin-Mizo tribe who live in the northeast Indian states of Mizoram and Manipur near the border with Myanmar.
Their oral history tells of a centuries-long exodus through Persia, Afghanistan, Tibet and China, all the while adhering to certain Jewish religious practices, like circumcision.
In India they were converted to Christianity by 19th century missionaries and, in reading the bible, recognised stories from their own traditions that convinced them they actually belonged to the Jewish faith.
“We are the lost tribe,” insists Reuben, who lives in a ramshackle two-storey wooden home set against a scenic background of the misty, ash-coloured Manipuri foothills.
A lunisolar Jewish calendar hangs on the wall of his living room, while a mezuzah, or parchment, with verses from the Torah is fixed to the front door frame of the house in Manipur’s state capital Imphal.
He prays three times a day with his eyes facing west “towards Jerusalem.”
The ancestral claims of the Bnei Menashe — rejected by other members of the Kuki-Chin-Mizo — began to draw attention in the 1980s from Jewish organisations dedicated to identifying “lost Jews.”
In the late 1990s, groups of Bnei Menashe were brought to Israel where they formally converted and settled.
But the real breakthrough came in 2005 when Israel’s Sephardic Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar officially recognised the entire community as “descendants of Israel” — a crucial step in securing their “right of return.”
The process was halted by new Israeli government policy in 2007, but last July the Ministerial Committee on Immigration and Absorption, agreed to the return of the remaining 7,200 Bnei Menashe.
“It is a huge project,” said Yochanan Phaltual, the Indian representative for Shavei Israel, an Israeli-based organisation that reaches out to descendants of Jews around the world.
“It is very complicated as it requires the involvement of all government departments,” Phaltual said.
The head of Shavei Israel, Michael Freund, who has lobbied hard for years on behalf of the Bnei Menashe, said he was confident the immigration would finally happen.
“This is simply a bureaucratic process, and like all bureaucratic processes, it takes time,” Freund said in an e-mail.
“I hope that we will soon hear good news, and that the Bnei Menashe will be allowed to return to the land of their ancestors.”
Living as a tiny minority poses numerous problems for people like Talya Bem, a 45-year-old widow and mother of three, particularly when it comes to observing orthodox customs and rituals.
“I was born as a Jew,” Bem says. “I live in India but my heart is in Israel.
“I want to go there as soon as possible. We can’t follow all the commandments of the Torah here,” she adds tearfully, comforted by her 18-year-old daughter, dressed smartly in a long black skirt and purple top.
According to Phaltual, Bnei Menashe families almost never go out to eat in local restaurants or buy food from street vendors.
“Nothing is kosher here. All the eateries serve pork and we fear that our food will get mixed up with that,” he said.
Manipur has a primarily agrarian economy and is one of the least developed states in India — one of only five with a per capita income of less than 30,000 rupees ($600).
But Phaltual bristles at the suggestion that the Bnei Menashe are motivated less by religious feeling and more by the prospect of a more comfortable, material life in Israel.
“Most of our community is well-settled. It is a very wrong conception that economic considerations have fuelled our dream of return,” he said.
Phaltual and Reuben both converted to Judaism in the 1990s.
“We studied the Bible the way Christians do,” Reuben said. “But slowly as we grew up, we started discussing how some of our customs matched with the tradition followed by ancient Israelites.”
At the Churachandpur synagogue, which boasts a small “mikveh” or pond used for ritual purification, Shlomo Haokip, 26, has been giving Hebrew classes for the past four years to help people prepare for life in Israel.
“Knowing Hebrew is one of the pre-requisites for formal conversion to Judaism in Israel,” said Haokip, who lives with his family in the premises of the synagogue in Churachandpur town, 60 kilometres (40 miles) from Imphal.
“I hold classes for children during the summer vacation. We also organise Hebrew learning camps every now and then. It’s a difficult language, and even I am not an expert. But once I go to Israel, I will become more fluent.”
Some Bnei Menashe are less sanguine about the issue of return, and feel impatient about the delays in the immigration process and the religious and bureaucratic hoops they feel forced to jump through.
“The British baptised us during their rule of the country and we corrected the mistake by taking up Judaism again,” said 31-year-old Moses, who gave just one name.
“We are Jews, why should we undergo conversion again? No one should question our identity. We don’t feel welcome in India and we are not welcome in Israel. We are neither here nor there.”
His angry outburst is cut short by the women of his family.
“Justice will be done,” one of them tells him calmly. “We have waited for 3,000 years. We can wait a few years more.”

 

[Safriz]

@safriz,

a quite rich family from sindh lives few kms away from my house
They tell same things.Now they run local business here and quite happy

Bingo..
thanks for proving my point...

The reasons are mainly financial..Hindus take the opportunity to go to a better financial environment..and thats that.