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If Google had guts, then it should have left China already.

Why is Google doing so much drama? What does Google want? Does it want the Chinese nation to be submissive obedient and unnecessarily extra apologetic to Google?

No, Google should understand China is not Thailand, Japan or South Korea. China is a civilization and a microscopic business entity like Google cannot fight a civilization.

Presently China's society is undergoing a great transitional phase where all the internal relations are very sensitive, delicate and a slight dis-balance might usurp the entire social equilibrium. China's Govt cannot allow any such external business entity to do so. Therefore, in a "transitional society like China, some limits were needed" as Global Times commented. For example, internet pornography in the name of human rights must not be allowed in such society because it might bring incalculable harms to the nation.

Dont confuse China with other East Asian countries. China is China. Unique in its own way.


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Well said, this is the best posting in a long time!



If Google had guts, then it should have left China already.


Why is Google doing so much drama? What does Google want? Does it want the Chinese nation to be submissive obedient and unnecessarily extra apologetic to Google?

No, Google should understand China is not Thailand, Japan or South Korea. China is a civilization and a microscopic business entity like Google cannot fight a civilization.

Presently China's society is undergoing a great transitional phase where all the internal relations are very sensitive, delicate and a slight dis-balance might usurp the entire social equilibrium. China's Govt cannot allow any such external business entity to do so. Therefore, in a "transitional society like China, some limits were needed" as Global Times commented. For example, internet pornography in the name of human rights must not be allowed in such society because it might bring incalculable harms to the nation.

Dont confuse China with other East Asian countries. China is China. Unique in its own way.


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I support freedom of speech, but I object to fabrication.

Western should stop any histrical revisionism on our sovereignty over Taiwan and Tibet.
 
In Rebuke of China, Focus Falls on Cybersecurity

SAN FRANCISCO — Even before Google threatened to pull out of China in response to an attack on its computer systems, the company was notifying activists whose e-mail accounts might have been compromised by hackers.

In a world where vast amounts of personal information stored online can quickly reveal a network of friends and associates, Google’s move to protect individuals from government surveillance required quick action. In early January, Tenzin Seldon, a 20-year-old Stanford student and Tibetan activist, was told by university officials to contact Google because her Gmail account had been hacked.

Ms. Seldon, the Indian-born daughter of Tibetan refugees, said she immediately contacted David Drummond, Google’s chief legal officer.

“David informed me that my account was hacked by someone in China,” Ms. Seldon said in a telephone interview. “They were concerned and asked whether they could see my laptop.”

Ms. Seldon immediately changed her password and became more careful of what she wrote. She also allowed Google to examine her personal computer at the company’s request. Google returned it this week, saying that while no viruses or malware had been detected, her account had indeed been entered surreptitiously.

Google confirmed Ms. Seldon’s account of events, but declined to say whether it had notified other activists who might have been victims of hacking.

Mr. Drummond said that an attack originating in China was aimed at its corporate infrastructure.

While the full scope of the attacks on Google and several dozen other companies remains unclear, the events set off immediate alarms in Washington, where the Obama administration has previously expressed concern about international computer security and attacks on Western companies.

Neither the sequence of events leading to Google’s decision nor the company’s ultimate goal in rebuking China is fully understood. But this was not the first time that the company had considered withdrawing from China, according to a former company executive. It had clashed repeatedly with Chinese officials over censorship demands, the executive said.

Google said on Tuesday that that in its investigation of the attacks on corporations, it found that the Gmail accounts of Chinese and Tibetan activists, like Ms. Seldon, had been compromised in separate attacks involving phishing and spyware.

Independent security researchers said that at least 34 corporations had been targets of the attacks originating in China.

Adobe, a software maker, said it had been the victim of an attack, but said that it did not know if it was linked to the hacking of Google. Some reports suggested that Yahoo had been a victim, but a person with knowledge said that Yahoo did not think that it been subject to the same attack as Google.

The decision by Google to draw a line and threaten to end its business operations in China brought attention to reports of Chinese high-technology espionage stretching back at least a decade. But despite Google’s suggestion that the hacking came from within China, it remained unclear who was responsible. Nevertheless, it presented the Obama administration with a problem of how to respond.

Google’s description of the attacks closely matches a vast surveillance system called Ghostnet that was reported in March by a group of Canadian researchers based at the Munk Center for International Studies at the University of Toronto. They found that an automated espionage system based in China was using targeted e-mail messages to compromise thousands of computers in hundreds of governmental organizations. In each case, after the computers were controlled by the attackers, they were able to scan for documents that were then stolen and transferred to a digital storage facility in China.

The researchers stopped short of directly accusing the Chinese government of masterminding the attacks. However, for years there have been reports of attacks planned by so-called patriotic hackers in China, and many American security specialists argue that these are simply irregular elements of the People’s Liberation Army. At the same time, hackers frequently use so-called false flag espionage or denial of service attacks to route their activities through the computers of a third country and hide their identity.

Fullstory : In Rebuke of China, Focus Falls on Cybersecurity - NYTimes.com
 
Strange how different people of the world are so accustomed to different lifestyles. If anybody attempted to hack my email, including my government, I would be hopping mad. Yet the Chinese seem to accept this as a way of life. To go on further, my view is that an adult should be permitted to view **** on the internet if that pornographic material does not involve minors etc. Adult **** being viewed by another adult is consensual. Yet the Chinese government seeks to block that out and the Chinese population accept it in their stride.
 
China responds to Google hacking claims

• China says it opposes hacking and has suffered cyber attacks
• Google feared dissidents were at risk from surveillance

Google moved quickly to announce that it would stop censoring its Chinese service after realising dissidents were at risk from attempts to use the company's technology for political surveillance, according to a source with direct knowledge of the internet giant's most senior management.

China this morning issued a statement saying it resolutely opposed hacking and was itself a victim of cyber attacks, in its first response to Google's hacking claims. In a statement posted on the state council information office website, cabinet spokesman Wang Chen reminded companies of their need to abide by internet controls, citing their "social responsibilities". The remarks did not mention Google directly. The source told the Guardian the company's decision was largely influenced by the experiences of Sergey Brin's Russian refugee background.

The Google co-founder "felt this very personally", the source said.

"The notion that somebody would try to turn Google's tools into tools of political surveillance was something he found deeply offensive."

When it became clear that the cyber attacks were about political surveillance, people at the very top of the company "decided they no longer wanted to participate in this kind of behaviour," said the source.

"It was felt that whether it's censorship or whether it's surveillance or threats to people who speak out this is all about suppression of free speech and was something the company no longer felt in conscience they could stand by that."

The US government intervened in the confrontation yesterday, urging Beijing to answer Google's claim of a massive hacking attack. Chinese authorities initially responded cautiously to Google's announcement. In the government's first public remarks, an official said it was "seeking more information". The unnamed official from China's state council information office – the cabinet spokesman's office – added: "It is still hard to say whether Google will quit China or not. Nobody knows."

It is thought that as many as 20 other companies including internet and mobile phone businesses were also being attacked in order to carry out political surveillance, or industrial espionage, according to the source. Google acknowledged that it might have to withdraw from China.

The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, said: "We have been briefed by Google on these allegations, which raise very serious concerns and questions. We look to the Chinese government for an explanation. The ability to operate with confidence in cyberspace is critical in a modern society and economy."

Google is understood to want to try to work with Beijing, according to the senior company source, who added it was "hopeful that they can accept that this is a new century, it's a new time. I don't think it's the Chinese government as a whole … but I think there are some left over elements of totalitarianism in China, be it in government or be it in hackers or what not. But those elements – it's time for them to go. It's time the Chinese people had unfettered access to information."

In a CNBC interview, David Drummond, senior vice-president of corporate development, chief legal officer, and author of the Google announcement, said: "We are not saying one way or the other whether the attacks are state-sponsored or done with any approval of the state.

"We do know that it was very organised and the attack came from China and political dissidents and people interested in human rights in China were clearly targeted."

Google spoke to the Chinese government yesterday but has not disclosed what form the contact took or who was involved.

"We have talked to the Chinese authorities and we will be talking to them more in the coming days," it said.

The Google source said the company decided to move quickly once it realised what was happening because they felt "a moral obligation to the dissidents to let them know they might be at risk".

"Unfortunately we could see the dark side of technology, when they tried to subvert the things we're building into tools of political suppression, which is the ultimate inverse of everything we stand for. So that was also troubling, but the connection, once we saw and understood – that's when it really hit home." News portals in China were reportedly told to downgrade coverage of the issue, but articles on several sites including the English language Xinhua site carried accounts of Google's decision, including references to censorship, but not hacking.

While campaign groups such as Human Rights Watch praised the firm's decision, it received a mixed reception in Beijing, even among admirers. Several people left flowers at the entrance to its headquarters, along with a sign reading: "Google – a real man."

But prominent liberal blogger, Ran Yunfei, wrote: "Google leaving China is definitely not good news." Comparing the company to dissidents who emigrate, he added: "Those who would remain are obedient citizens and [that is] satisfactory to the authorities."

Isaac Mao, a Chinese blogger who in 2007 published a widely circulated open letter to the firm criticising it for self-censorship, said: "I think Google has eventually made the right decision to fight back based on their principles."

When it launched google.cn in 2006, the company said it believed the benefits of increased access to information for people in China outweighed the negative impact of self-censorship. But it was widely criticised for the decision. Google has around a third of the Chinese search market, lagging far behind the domestic firm Baidu. Kaiser Kuo, a Beijing-based expert on the internet, said: "There are two schools of thought on this. One says that this is a mere smokescreen of sanctimony meant to hide a retreat from a market Google was unable to conquer for business reasons ... The other is that this is a true act of moral bravery."

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Google had briefed the Obama administration before its China announcement. He said the president believed in the "freedom of the internet".
 
Banned in China: what the regime doesn't want its people to see

Google’s threat yesterday to stop censoring search results on its Google.cn site raises the question of just what the regime is censoring. As we reported yesterday, China has increasingly sophisticated tools – known as the ‘Golden Shield’ or the ‘Great Firewall of China’ – available to monitor and limit web traffic. The sites that are blocked vary over time but there are some common themes.

Photos
Certain images are blocked for Chinese internet users. Usually the pictures show protests and they are often quite graphic. Images of the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989 are blocked, for example, as are images of protests in Tibet and pictures of Falun Gong members who have been tortured by the regime.

Search terms
Many search keywords are blocked in China. Searches for “Falun Gong”, “Free Tibet” and “Tiananmen” are routinely cut off. Searches for terms such as “Democracy” and “Human rights” will also fail to deliver results. Google.cn would display the following message for such searches: “According to local laws, regulations and policies, part of the searching result is not shown.”

ISPs
Internet service providers in China routinely limit the sites that their customers can access so as not to be found liable for their conduct. Politically sensitive messages are often deleted from forums by moderators employed by the ISPs.

Western websites
Websites are regularly blocked for a period of time and later unblocked when the regime relents. The New York Times, Wikipedia, the BBC and Amnesty International are just some of the sites that have been blocked at one time or another. Last year it was reported that many social media sites, including Twitter and Facebook, were being blocked by the Chinese government. Apple’s music store, iTunes, was blocked during the 2008 Olympics after more than 40 athletes downloaded a pro-Tibet album.

iPhone applications
At the end of last year it was reported that several iPhone and iPod Touch applications relating to the Dalai Lama had been removed from the Chinese version of the iTunes App Store. Apps including Dalai Lama Quotes and the Dalai Lama Prayerwheel are not available to Chinese iPhone users. Apple said: “We continue to comply with local laws”.

There is much more that is blocked by the Great Firewall of China. However, the good news is that it is a fairly trivial matter to circumvent the censorship and doing so is widely tolerated. Nevertheless, by making it inconvenient to access controversial material the Chinese regime is still keeping many of its 360 million internet users in the dark.

Source : Banned in China: what the regime doesn't want its people to see – Telegraph Blogs
 
China stands firm on Internet security amid Google drama - People's Daily Online 08:13, January 15, 2010

China Thursday insisted its stand for an open Internet under proper regulating following Google's widely-concerned statement of a possible retreat from the country.

"The Internet is open in China, where the government always encourages its development and has created a favorable environment for its healthy development," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said at a regular press conference.

Responding to a question on Google's claim to quit China, Jiangsaid China, like other countries, shall regulate the Internet industry in line with the law.

"China welcomes international Internet companies to conduct business within the country according to law," she said.

Her comment was China's first official response after Google's corporate development and chief legal officer, David Drummond, wrote on the company's official blog site, saying the company was to "review the feasibility of our business operations in China."

The post said its disputes with the government and unidentified attacks targeting Google's services in China forced the company to make the review and possibly to "shut down Google.cn" and potentially its China offices.

Jiang said China's law "prohibits hacker attacks in any form."


Also on Thursday, Wang Chen, director of China's State Council Information Office, said China firmly opposed cyber attacks because China itself is a victim of such attacks.

In an interview with the People's Daily, the official said every country needs to "effectively" regulate the Internet and to make sure their own problems on the web do not affect other countries.

"Internet security has become a significant problem that does not only involve China but also other countries," Wang said.

Experts interviewed by Xinhua questioned Google's real intentions.

"It is obvious that any website could be attacked by hackers, either in China or other countries. Cyberattacks can't be the real reason for Google's possible retreat," said Sun Zhe, director of the China-U.S. Relations Center at Tsinghua University.

Baidu.com, China's top search engine and Google's biggest rival in the country, had been temporarily paralyzed for more than three hours Tuesday after being attacked. Its domain name server in the United States had been illegally attacked, the company said in a statement.

"Cyberattack is a headache for local and overseas major websites. Google should provide its evidence or clues on these attacks to Chinese authorities, so that both sides work together on this common problem," Sun said.

As for its disputes with the government, Google had been blamed for showing too many links to pornographic contents and breaking Chinese laws.

In a series of national anti-online **** campaigns last year, Google acted quickly in cleaning up pornographic searching results on Google.cn, upon requests from the Chinese authorities.

The experts argued that Internet regulation was a common practice in most countries.

Liu Deliang, head of the Beijing-based Asia-Pacific Institute for Cyber-law Studies, said both China and the United States had laws and regulations on Internet but only in different ways.

"The U.S. government only wants to keep children away from ****, while the Chinese government wants nobody to have access to ****," Liu said.

Google appeared to have followed government rules in its own country. In March 2008, Google reportedly removed the images of U.S. military bases from its mapping service upon orders from the U.S. government.

"U.S. authorities also have information classified and filtered via technical methods, and they have regulations on media contents and operation too," said Yao Huanqing, associate professor from Law School of Renming University of China.

While many Internet users in China were dismayed by Google's announcement, some suspected if Google's latest move was made out of concerns of economic benefits and market share.

A blogger named Sarah Lacy said in a post on techcrunch.com that Google's business was not doing well in China, quoting Google China's former head Kai-fu Lee as saying the company was never going to substantially increase its market share or beat Baidu.

"Google has clearly decided doing business in China isn't worth it, and is turning what would be a negative into a marketing positive for its business in the rest of the world," the blogger said.

Liu Dan, a researcher with a Beijing-based consulting company affiliated to the China Center for Information Industry Development, said Google's strategy of localizing and marketing was not as good as its technology.

According to the iResearch Consulting Group, the Chinese search engine market reached nearly seven billion yuan (about one billion U.S. dollars) in 2009, and Google took 32.8 percent in Q3 revenues while China's Baidu claimed 63.8 percent.

"It should be a business decision for a company to quit an overseas market or not, but now the Google case has been overstated," Sun Zhe said.

"As China has a quite relaxed environment now, its principle on Internet security is impossible to change. The choice is only leftto Google," he said.

(Xinhua correspondents Niu Qi, Cheng Zhuo, Wang Cong, Yu Xiaojie, Liu Juhua and Ma Shukun in Beijing contributed to the story.)

Source:Xinhua
 
POOR, young Latvian women are being lured to Ireland with promises of up to £10,000 to "marry" illegal immigrants here, men mainly from Pakistan, most of whom are believed to have wives back in their home countries.

Adverts have been placed in Latvia and, it is believed other Baltic states, seeking women to come to Ireland to marry illegal immigrants over the past two years.

[One advert in Latvia stated: "Young unmarried women wanted. Women who would agree to help Indian guys in Dublin with registering marriage on paper (fictitious marriage, popular in Dublin nowadays)

"Everything will be covered, plus you get �1,000, plus room rent covered, plus work offered, plus pocket money, plus course (professional, language) plus other benefits. Also plane ticket costs will be covered. All this is legal!."

Although the advert claimed that "Indian" men were involved, investigations into such marriages by the Garda National Bureau of Investigation (GNIB) found that those involved are all from Pakistan.

A journalist from Latvian newspaper Diena who posed as a possible bride, replied by email to the advert and received a reply stating: "When arriving in Ireland this marriage is not registered right away but only after 3-6 months not earlier, because in Ireland all 'paper formalities' take very long time and after you have submitted an application you must wait for another 3-6 months until that marriage.

"A fictitious marriage is registered, it is a marriage on paper. With this the Indian guy may stay in the territory of Ireland legally because he has registered his marriage with EU citizen. This allows him to stay in Ireland permanently.

"It does not cost anything for the person who is helping, also stamps are not put in passports any more, passport stays clean. Then this marriage is registered in local Irish computer, not in Latvian register. Marriage agreement/ contract is signed and cancelled after a year. No obligations from both sides. This is just a formality. And it is legal process. At present it is a rather popular thing in Ireland (also in other countries eg England, Switzerland and others." the reply said.

"Living conditions are the following -- living in apartments that are shared with other workers. Salary is around �1,500 to �2,000 per month, besides all money stays in your pocket as you do not have to pay for anything (unlike other workers who spend about half of their salary on room, rent, transport etc)," the replying email stated. Last year GNIB found that 500 of 3,000 applications by non-Irish married couples to live here were from failed asylum seekers and that a significant number of others involved arranged marriages with young women from the Baltic states who had replied to the adverts. Gardai also found that 400 of the applications to reside in Ireland based on marriage to an EU citizen were from Pakistanis.

The Department of Justice's Immigration department last year refused 279 of these applicants leave to remain here despite their claims of rights of residence because of marriage to an EU citizen. Immigration "rights" groups last year criticised the Department's decision to refuse leave to some of these men to remain here.

The Latvian authorities are apparently amazed at Ireland's lax controls over arranged or bogus marriages.

Last month, Latvian police said that they have been informed by the garda that such "marriages" are "not a crime" in Ireland.

The Head of the State Police Organised Crime Enforcement Department, Arturs Vaisla, told the Diena newspaper: "There are countries that treat such cases irresponsibly. If it had happened here we could have put them in prison."

This is not the first time that the pakistanis have tried to stoop their usual LOW and tried to tarnish image of India/Indians , well they know if they willl not say they are Indians they will ........ (well you know what I mean) . I read some where by our member JEYPORE that when pakistanis are caught in US for speeding they introduce themselves them as indians. My cousin lived in former USSR with thousands of immigrants from S.Asia. He use to tell us his little tales living in USSR. One tale I recall is , when ever pakistanis got in trouble with the police , they always used to say they are Indians , and 8 out of 10 times the police would let go of them for `some` reason

10,000 bogus marriage offer for Latvian girls
The Spire: Pakistani marriage-scam exposed

I mean com on pakistani members , such a hypocrisy, on forums like this you try to demen us indians and try to prove theres no one like you , if YOU are so proud of your country and relegion why do U call yourselves as Indans????
Just a thought.
I am sure other non resident Indians will have similar stories we would all like to know abt.
 
POOR, young Latvian women are being lured to Ireland with promises of up to £10,000 to "marry" illegal immigrants here, men mainly from Pakistan, most of whom are believed to have wives back in their home countries.

Adverts have been placed in Latvia and, it is believed other Baltic states, seeking women to come to Ireland to marry illegal immigrants over the past two years.

[One advert in Latvia stated: "Young unmarried women wanted. Women who would agree to help Indian guys in Dublin with registering marriage on paper (fictitious marriage, popular in Dublin nowadays)

"Everything will be covered, plus you get �1,000, plus room rent covered, plus work offered, plus pocket money, plus course (professional, language) plus other benefits. Also plane ticket costs will be covered. All this is legal!."

Although the advert claimed that "Indian" men were involved, investigations into such marriages by the Garda National Bureau of Investigation (GNIB) found that those involved are all from Pakistan.

A journalist from Latvian newspaper Diena who posed as a possible bride, replied by email to the advert and received a reply stating: "When arriving in Ireland this marriage is not registered right away but only after 3-6 months not earlier, because in Ireland all 'paper formalities' take very long time and after you have submitted an application you must wait for another 3-6 months until that marriage.

"A fictitious marriage is registered, it is a marriage on paper. With this the Indian guy may stay in the territory of Ireland legally because he has registered his marriage with EU citizen. This allows him to stay in Ireland permanently.

"It does not cost anything for the person who is helping, also stamps are not put in passports any more, passport stays clean. Then this marriage is registered in local Irish computer, not in Latvian register. Marriage agreement/ contract is signed and cancelled after a year. No obligations from both sides. This is just a formality. And it is legal process. At present it is a rather popular thing in Ireland (also in other countries eg England, Switzerland and others." the reply said.

"Living conditions are the following -- living in apartments that are shared with other workers. Salary is around �1,500 to �2,000 per month, besides all money stays in your pocket as you do not have to pay for anything (unlike other workers who spend about half of their salary on room, rent, transport etc)," the replying email stated. Last year GNIB found that 500 of 3,000 applications by non-Irish married couples to live here were from failed asylum seekers and that a significant number of others involved arranged marriages with young women from the Baltic states who had replied to the adverts. Gardai also found that 400 of the applications to reside in Ireland based on marriage to an EU citizen were from Pakistanis.

The Department of Justice's Immigration department last year refused 279 of these applicants leave to remain here despite their claims of rights of residence because of marriage to an EU citizen. Immigration "rights" groups last year criticised the Department's decision to refuse leave to some of these men to remain here.

The Latvian authorities are apparently amazed at Ireland's lax controls over arranged or bogus marriages.

Last month, Latvian police said that they have been informed by the garda that such "marriages" are "not a crime" in Ireland.

The Head of the State Police Organised Crime Enforcement Department, Arturs Vaisla, told the Diena newspaper: "There are countries that treat such cases irresponsibly. If it had happened here we could have put them in prison."

This is not the first time that the pakistanis have tried to stoop their usual LOW and tried to tarnish image of India/Indians , well they know if they willl not say they are Indians they will ........ (well you know what I mean) . I read some where by our member JEYPORE that when pakistanis are caught in US for speeding they introduce themselves them as indians. My cousin lived in former USSR with thousands of immigrants from S.Asia. He use to tell us his little tales living in USSR. One tale I recall is , when ever pakistanis got in trouble with the police , they always used to say they are Indians , and 8 out of 10 times the police would let go of them for `some` reason

10,000 bogus marriage offer for Latvian girls
The Spire: Pakistani marriage-scam exposed

I mean com on pakistani members , such a hypocrisy, on forums like this you try to demen us indians and try to prove theres no one like you , if YOU are so proud of your country and relegion why do U call yourselves as Indans????
Just a thought.
I am sure other non resident Indians will have similar stories we would all like to know abt.


what are you doing on a web site for getting dates with latvian girls such a hypocrisy.pathetic loser.

3,000 applications by non-Irish married couples to live here were from failed asylum seekers and that a significant number of others involved arranged marriages with young women from the Baltic states who had replied to the adverts. Gardai also found that 400 of the applications to reside in Ireland based on marriage to an EU citizen were from Pakistanis.

I take it 2600 are indians then :rofl:

Its being posted by some one named (as posted on independent.ie) also known as Saint N sinnerr on this website trying to spread crap against pakistan i didnt no some of you are sinking this low.

Did you also read what some one has replied to your post on that website.

Shocked not even by this marriage schema, but... why Ireland is so popular in India for example? It's kind of dirty and impulsive country... I dislike it.choke on it read it again and again.
 


Bangalore: A day after Google dropped a bomb by launching an open war against China, India finds it timely to rake a hot issue up—of course not on censorship—and put up a fight with the Internet giant.


Minister of state for communication Sachin Pilot has said that India will protest against Google for showing Arunachal Pradesh as a part of China.

“We have already taken up the matter. India will not stand and watch something like this whether it is Google or any other company. Wrong depiction is not tolerated,” Pilot told a TV channel.

Meanwhile, the Web war between Google and China was just hotting up. Yahoo Inc backed rival Google’s threatened departure from China because of computer attacks that pried into the e-mail accounts of human rights activists. In a statement issued on Wednesday, Yahoo said it’s “aligned” with Google’s reaction to the hacking that originated within China. Google has promised to stop censoring its search results in China, defying the country’s government. The move may result in Google pulling out of China.
China, in response, said it welcomed internet companies provided they obey laws that restrict their content.
(With agency inputs)

Source : One more jab for Google, this time it's India - dnaindia.com
 
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No offence, no personal insult please.... :D
 

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