Good move by establishment

[N.Siddiqui]

And as in the cipher US threatened 'you' will bear the consequences if Khan is not removed and will be forgiven if he is removed by NCV.

Here 'you' is the Pak Fauj, which US Cipher was threatening, here it looks as though Fauj is saving their skin from US at the cost of the demise of Pak nation. US want revenge for 20 years of humiliation in Afghanistan and the final victory of Talibans which they blame on Pak Fauj.

Clearly this must be one reason that there is some consensus in Army rank and file, and they are not revolting against Bajwa and some generals... they are doing it to save Pak Fauj from US onslaught, how ironic.

 

[Bilal.]

Either stunted growth doing mental gymnastics or lost sanity due to petrol price?

 

[R2D2]

My friends please do a reality check yourself. Get out of this imagined reality in your minds. Go to Bani Gala in the morning around 8:30 am. You will find the main road in the bazar wet. You will think it may have rained the previous night. But you will be wrong. It is the sewerage water from the plazas being put on the roads at nights as there is no other outlet. There is no gas in half of Bani Gala. It is normal that when a politician is elected, he does something for his constituency or where he lives. But no, Imran Khan cares damn about Bani Gala. He should have started severage works there. All the houses in Bani Gala are putting their shit in Septic Tanks.

Even a dog wags his tail and cleans the spot where he is lying down. Talk to the people of Bani Gala. Talk to the property dealers. Go across Bani Gala mountain to adjoining Mohra Noor locality and look at the 200 canals prime land gifted by Malik Riaz to Farah Gogi.

This is the reality.

If he cares damn about Bani Gala where he lives, what does he care about Pakistan?

 

[VCheng]

My friends please do a reality check yourself. Get out of this imagined reality in your minds. Go to Bani Gala in the morning around 8:30 am. You will find the main road in the bazar wet. You will think it may have rained the previous night. But you will be wrong. It is the sewerage water from the plazas being put on the roads at nights as there is no other outlet. There is no gas in half of Bani Gala. It is normal that when a politician is elected, he does something for his constituency or where he lives. But no, Imran Khan cares damn about Bani Gala. He should have started severage works there. All the houses in Bani Gala are putting their shit in Septic Tanks.

Even a dog wags his tail and cleans the spot where he is lying down. Talk to the people of Bani Gala. Talk to the property dealers. Go across Bani Gala mountain to adjoining Mohra Noor locality and look at the 200 canals prime land gifted by Malik Riaz to Farah Gogi.

This is the reality.

If he cares damn about Bani Gala where he lives, what does he care about Pakistan?

But in all fairness, you could observe similar things for nearly ALL of the politicians and their domiciled residences.

 

[R2D2]

But in all fairness, you could observe similar things for nearly ALL of the politicians and their domiciled residences.

All the politicians try to divert as much funds as possible in development works for their constituencies.

 

[VCheng]

All the politicians try to divert as much funds as possible in development works for their constituencies.

Except that the funds usually are used for patronage and not for actual development.

 

[R2D2]

Except that the funds usually are used for patronage and not for actual development.

One part of the funds goes into the pocket of politician and the other part goes into development.

 

[Musna]

One part of the funds goes into the pocket of politician and the other part goes into development.

Did any part of the bani gala funds go into imrans pocket?

 

[R2D2]

Did any part of the bani gala funds go into imrans pocket?

200 canal land in Mohra Noor adjacent to Bani Gala were gifted by Malik Riaz to Farah Gogi. You can send someone there and get it confirmed. You will see a big area with prefabricated walls and security.

 

[R Wing]

Army's role in politics is a reality and it should be reduced to a minimum.

If we're talking about "should" (a normative position) than we don't need to be constrained by any "reality" (a descriptive account).

If we're talking about "should" --- then the COAS should become an accountable servant of the people and there should be widespread, deep, and painful intelligence community reform so everything is reconstituted along modernized lines.

But, of course, neither should happen.

You see, being "neutral" is a political act. Being neutral in the face of evil is a significant act. Being neutral in the face of injustice is an unforgivable act. Being neutral as the thing you're supposed to protect (whether it's a daughter, mother, or country) is a shameful act.

 

[R2D2]

If we're talking about "should" (a normative position) than we don't need to be constrained by any "reality" (a descriptive account).

If we're talking about "should" --- then the COAS should become an accountable servant of the people and there should be widespread, deep, and painful intelligence community reform so everything is reconstituted along modernized lines.

But, of course, neither should happen.

You see, being "neutral" is a political act. Being neutral in the face of evil is a significant act. Being neutral in the face of injustice is an unforgivable act. Being neutral as the thing you're supposed to protect (whether it's a daughter, mother, or country) is a shameful act.

The establishment "acted" in the face of threat of destruction of the country posed by Imran Khan and eased him out of power through an operation that lasted several months and included many partners. Imran Khan does not have the mental capacity to understand what happened to him. He was high on power.

Why would the jews be called the most crafty people on earth if ordinary people can look through their plans and get out of them in time. Luckily for Pakistan, Bajwa "acted" and has successfully removed the most dangerous threat to the integrity of Pakistan since its creation. However, the fight is far from finished and there are still some rounds to go.

 

[General Dong]

Bajwa is not neutral, never was. The cat is out the bag. Everyone can now see the armed forces are not only complacent in overthrowing a prime minister but they have been the king makers for decades now. They are to blame for decades of sharifs and zardaris. They are to blame for our incompetent judicial system starting from the top with Supreme Court, whose judges are their direct cronies.

By doing what Bajwa did, which is bow down to the US, he also bowed down to India by proxy. Its as if he lost a war by choosing not to fight. Instead these corrupt Generals only chose to fill their own pockets.

 

[Liquidmetal]

The decision to stay neutral by the establishment is being criticized by many members of this forum. However, I beg to differ. If the Imran Khan had been allowed to continue government for its full term, then surely Pakistan would have defaulted. In this regard, the role of COAS Bajwa should be praised as he is still a target of media for this statesman like decision. The plan is still fresh in Imran Khan's mind as he recently said that Pakistan would be divided into three parts under Shehbaz Sharif government and that the army would be the first to suffer.

Imran Khan is right in a sense that due to the financial constraints put upon the army due to Imran Khan's deliberate failed performance, COAS Bajwa had announced the plan to decrease the military manpower size by 60-70 thousand.

Pakistan should remove Customs Duties with Afghanistan and if possible with Iran also and reactivate ECO as a regional trading hub.

Utter rubbish, what the eff are you smoking idiot weed or is this just blind loyalty to sharif chors? Fact check for you: PM IK inherited a virtually bankrupt economy, with 2/3 months reserves for imports, had to go to IMF so that economy stabilises and swallowed the bitter pill of austerity. Removed subsidies at the orders of IMF but this meant that internationa donors saw that Pakistan will be able to pay debts so investors and lenders continued to do business in PK. Then came covid, PK's response was one of the best - saved people, saved economy and saved the middle class+poor people for total collapse, then started the God send sehat godm the ehasas card, the Kishan card, kamyab jawan, IT exports doubled, economy grew, construction sector booming, record agri output, diversification of economy, agri, record large sacle manufacturing, record sales in all sectors economy grew at 6%, record remittances via legal routes, investment, single point for cpec, record exports, record tax collection, neutral foreign policy, inc deepening relationships with china and russia - was to buy oil at 30% reduction.

Then the army fucked all of hard won achievements.

Now you can see inflation at 30% and 1 month away from default. FFS. Army sabotaged Pakistan and foisted these corrupt evila mafia back into power.

 

[General Dong]

My friends please do a reality check yourself. Get out of this imagined reality in your minds. Go to Bani Gala in the morning around 8:30 am. You will find the main road in the bazar wet. You will think it may have rained the previous night. But you will be wrong. It is the sewerage water from the plazas being put on the roads at nights as there is no other outlet. There is no gas in half of Bani Gala. It is normal that when a politician is elected, he does something for his constituency or where he lives. But no, Imran Khan cares damn about Bani Gala. He should have started severage works there. All the houses in Bani Gala are putting their shit in Septic Tanks.

Even a dog wags his tail and cleans the spot where he is lying down. Talk to the people of Bani Gala. Talk to the property dealers. Go across Bani Gala mountain to adjoining Mohra Noor locality and look at the 200 canals prime land gifted by Malik Riaz to Farah Gogi.

This is the reality.

If he cares damn about Bani Gala where he lives, what does he care about Pakistan?

Keep reaching for anything negative to say about IK, you are showing your stunded growth and lack of IQ.

That's not even an insult or negative as far as I'm concerned. It's easy to spend money on yourself or your own constituency. Were you complaing when plmn was spending half the budget on Lahore and advertisments??

Im guessing you also support Crime minister showbaaz spending 7 crore on a pool within his first month in office.

 

[R2D2]

Keep reaching for anything negative to say about IK, you are showing your stunded growth and lack of IQ.

That's not even an insult or negative as far as I'm concerned. It's easy to spend money on yourself or your own constituency. Were you complaing when plmn was spending half the budget on Lahore and advertisments??

Im guessing you also support Crime minister showbaaz spending 7 crore on a pool within his first month in office.

A person who did nothing for his locality inspite of being in power for 3 1/5 years is inhuman.