'Go Nawaz Go' Campaign Launched by PAT & PTI

[batmannow]

I understand


TuQ have zero Chance of Success (in terms of Politics not Model town theme) for Evidence read Javed Ch todays column
Daily Express News Story

(IK lowered his standards??)
I dont think so...."Dobtay ko tinkay ka sahara"
Right now mummy daddy type of Crowd (like me & you) are not comming to his call (Dharna) & that leave him no choice to have a back door alliance with little Army of Ants
.
Farsightedness:
After the success of Dharna Mission - nobody cares ....he did that & that & that (dance party,canadian, Army, London Conspiracy) bla bla bla
My Overview:
Qadri will go exhaust iwithin 30 days (before Eid) - Iam 100% sure, Right now he is tempting to play with their emotions by threats, "Caffen Posh drama" ......Sooner or later his crowd will turn a Deaf Ear to him....WHY??
1. Winters Approaching
2. Already Exhausted
3. Increasing Overheads

Javeed chodri also suggested that TUQ & his party wont reach islamabad ?
I guss its the difference between a 3rd grade dhoti journalist & a leader?

 

[TankMan]

Orangzaib should not be accused of being CIA agent.
I have read a lot of his posts. He always talks about political stability in Pakistan.

That's exactly what a CIA agent would talk about...... lol

I am not offended. Working for any institution like the CIA, USAF or others is an honor for any American citizen. But the issue here as you pointed out has nothing to do with any CIA or anything.

Just to clarify, my post wasn't meant to accuse orangzaib of being a CIA agent

 

[FaujHistorian]

These institutions are the shame of the whole nation, thats elite debating club, for the elites by the elites !
Of thier crouptions!
Thats it, I am talking about the shamefull parliments which never brought any thing good for the peoples of pakistan?

Ok bhai.

you win. Happy?

These are the parliaments who gave us the very basis of existence and the sacred document called "constitution of Pakistan".

Obviously you have not read enough about the modern concept of "nation state" in order to appreciate such new things.

 

[batmannow]

At least they didn't produce people attacking parliament buildings, throwing patrol bombs on police, being a religious cleric and using language like a third class thug, forcing people to bring about religious "revolution" by lying to them (isn't that against the religion???).....at least they didn't produce violence and killings of policemen and other civilians.

If you as a NATION don't use Parliament as a place to go resolve your issues correctly, who's fault is that?

What are these violent, undemocratic and unconstitutional protests producing for Pakistan or HAVE produced so far? A trail of lies, bloodshed, economic destruction of billions, many dead bodies and hundreds of injured people???? That's what you refer to as "a change"??? I think I am very oppose to it as a TRUE change comes from within the democratic system and shows itself off by improving people's lifestyles, by providing job, growing the economy, education, healthcare and all. All that has already started by the current government but a Few Thousand want to violently take over the rest 200 MILLION people by force for a specific agenda. Good luck with that, the majority has already said no to this as there is like 10 K people from the entire nation trying to "change" the system when they don't have proper places there to change their clothes!

Funny thing you dont know about these parlimentarins ?
Dont write it, too long if you dont have any political knowkedge of pakistan?
It was our dearest PM noora sharif & his PMLn which attacked our supreme court?
Now dont, post crap without knowledge?
Try some where else?

 

[TankMan]

What are these violent, undemocratic and unconstitutional protests producing for Pakistan or HAVE produced so far? A trail of lies, bloodshed, economic destruction of billions, many dead bodies and hundreds of injured people???? That's what you refer to as "a change"??? I think I am very oppose to it as a TRUE change comes from within the democratic system and shows itself off by improving people's lifestyles, by providing job, growing the economy, education, healthcare and all. All that has already started by the current government but a Few Thousand want to violently take over the rest 200 MILLION people by force for a specific agenda. Good luck with that, the majority has already said no to this as there is like 10 K people from the entire nation trying to "change" the system when they don't have proper places there to change their clothes!

If this is what you believe, then you really shouldn't support PMLN.
Here's what they did before:

PMLN Nawaz Sharif attack on Supreme Court | Tune.pk

 

[FaujHistorian]

That's exactly what a CIA agent would talk about...... lol


Just to clarify, my post wasn't meant to accuse orangzaib of being a CIA agent

you are a sharp witted person. You say one thing in one sentence and then a qalabazi. hahahah.

Either way, Oraganzaib is not bothered by the labels and you shouldn't either.

 

[forcetrip]

Now let's not compare such countries like Iraq with us.

We have had 4 regional and one federal level parliaments for a long long long time.

The guys you talk about are almost 100 years behind us politically.

Peace




Look bhai,

then go to parliament and pass a no confidence motion. If it fails.

Do it again

again
again
again

until you legally defeat NS and his policies.

The way IK and TuQ are doing right now, is pathetic, and there is no way they can help reduce external debt doing dharnas and dances, and $hitting in the open, right next to ebassies.

People used to joke about Indian cities smelling like $hit all the time.

Now we have brought the same $hit smell to one of our cleanest cities.

external debt an issue.

I am talking about external $hit that needs to be removed first.

Then bhai first make elections portray what the country wants instead of parliament full of crooks. Why would any of them pass a motion that would destroy their hard fought fraud? Sweeping legislature to make elections free and fair will not happen with the sitting crooks. Its a situation which will continue to plague this country till the "people" like you and me accept it is broken. It will continue to be used in the few's favor. I would take domestic shit over external debt any day. Such is the difference between you and me.

 

[batmannow]

Ok bhai.

you win. Happy?

These are the parliaments who gave us the very basis of existence and the sacred document called "constitution of Pakistan".

Obviously you have not read enough about the modern concept of "nation state" in order to appreciate such new things.

Constitution of pakistan cant give free, medical support to pakistanis?
Constitution of pakistan cant give free, bread to pakistanis?
Constitution of pakistan cant even stop the crouptors & the looters bieng elected again & again?
Constituion of pakistan cant even hold a free & fair election?
Constitution of pakistan still cant bring the murders of the dead ones of model town, then its not a constitution anymore, its just another declaration of sinstitution of the powerfull mafia?

 

[Viper0011.]

A legal proof? When they took proof of PMLN worker Gullu Butt smashing cars, the court let him go on bail because video evidence is not enough.. What does "legal proof" mean anyways?

Are they violent right now? Were they violent for the 20 days before the clash? No. Violence happens when police lets people through then shells them from both sides.

Honestly, i'm against Imran Khan's demand of PM's resignation. I believe that Imran Khan could have done a lot better if he accepted the resignation of Shahbaz and a little investigation. That would have given Nawaz the message that PTI and the population isn't going to sit and watch, that it is awake and doesn't trust Nawaz Sharif. This would have forced him to deliver, even if he didn't want to.

Yes, a legal proof. I think the Gulu guy went to jail and had his court trial right? SIMILARLY, proofs for NS's corruption so he CAN be sent to the jail even for a DAY if he really did corruption. He or his family members will never be able to run again as the entire country will shift gears on their family. So yes, take the proof and take them to the Parliament and the Court. PLEASE don't get innocent people killed through violence is the point. Violence doesn't bring anything but destruction as seen here. And its to the entire country, not to 10k protestors only!!!

They are NOT violent because they've been respecting the red lines given to them. If they cross those lines tonight, they'll get shelled again. Simple is that. We had a situation like that in Missouri (Ferguson), when the population turns violent, without waiting on the legal justice system to take action, the law enforcement will come into play. They deployed the National Guards (the military) to protect others and public property and all.....it's very rare in the US to deploy the National Guards on Civilians. But you can't let a MOB destroy a City down, let alone an entire country in Pakistan's case.

The last paragraph is RIGHT ON. Now we are talking. That is my whole point, so many killings didn't have to happen, hundreds of people didn't have to die and billions didn't have to be gone when Pakistan needs every dollar the MOST right now. Take a look at the IDP's who need temporary housing, add a few million flood victims and billion lost due to to protests, floods and war on terror.......can you really afford violent protests on the global media telling everyone how extremism exists in Pakistan at this level that "leaders" are attacking symbols of the nation (Parliament, the National TV) and all? And these two guys are STILL not backing down. Sad part is, they are alone and running a failed campaign that won't produce anything, but will further damage the country economically. THAT is my issue. Violence has stopped Pakistan from progressing and it will continue to do so unless these politicians learn and show the nation as to how to resolve their issues in the Parliament.
The Parliament HAS shown it can stand together, you guys can see events inside the parliament on TV. That's how democracies work, opposite parties sit in with their agendas but work together for the country, rejecting violence and extremism.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Then bhai first make elections portray what the country wants instead of parliament full of crooks. Why would any of them pass a motion that would destroy their hard fought fraud? Sweeping legislature to make elections free and fair will not happen with the sitting crooks. Its a situation which will continue to plague this country till the "people" like you and me accept it is broken. It will continue to be used in the few's favor. I would take domestic shit over external debt any day. Such is the difference between you and me.

Why would you Imply that our political system is so far gone that it cannot be fixed?
--- This type of statements smell of retired fauji socks.

Constitution of pakistan cant give free, medical support to pakistanis?
Constitution of pakistan cant give free, bread to pakistanis?
Constitution of pakistan cant even stop the crouptors & the looters bieng elected again & again?
Constituion of pakistan cant even hold a free & fair election?
Constitution of pakistan still cant bring the murders of the dead ones of model town, then its not a constitution anymore, its just another declaration of sinstitution of the powerfull mafia?

There is no free lunch.

Someone somehow has to pay.

I thought we are grown ups. and thus do not believe in Santa clause leaving the gifts under our beds.

I thought we are mature enough.

 

[batmannow]

Why would you Imply that our political system is so far gone that it cannot be fixed?
--- This type of statements smell of retired fauji socks.



There is no free lunch.

Someone somehow has to pay.

Sure but the ones born from the socks of fujis? Lolzz

 

[Viper0011.]

Constitution of pakistan cant give free, medical support to pakistanis?
Constitution of pakistan cant give free, bread to pakistanis?
Constitution of pakistan cant even stop the crouptors & the looters bieng elected again & again?
Constituion of pakistan cant even hold a free & fair election?
Constitution of pakistan still cant bring the murders of the dead ones of model town, then its not a constitution anymore, its just another declaration of sinstitution of the powerfull mafia?

Constitution of any country doesn't give you what you asked for. It gives you a democratically elected government. It tells you to protest without violence or others will get killed if you attack the Parliament and National TV or the Police force. That is what happened here.
And when constitution produces a democratically elected government, it then takes the responsibility to take the country and provide for what you are referring above. BUT.....the government needs to finish its term so that the projects it started can finish up. These aren't writing essays that they can finish over time, these are projects that are long term and usually last 3 to 5 years. So follow your constitution and it'll give you what you are referring to in your post through a democratic, NON VIOLENT system where things are discussed and negotiated. And no one gets killed or injured and no Parliament or the National TV is attacked. People start to live a peaceful and successful life (India, Turkey, Malaysia as examples of countries in the similar geography like Pakistan).

 

[forcetrip]

Why would you Imply that our political system is so far gone that it cannot be fixed?
--- This type of statements smell of retired fauji socks.

Uh oh .. here comes the name calling. Its fine. So you feel everything is kosher in the parliament. When each and every political party has said in that same parliament that the elections were not free and fair? The only reason they are sticking together is because they do not want to lose their humongous income stream being incompetent and all. You can not advocate that idiots continue to run the country and one day they will turn smart. I am not planning to live that long.

 

[batmannow]

Why would you Imply that our political system is so far gone that it cannot be fixed?
--- This type of statements smell of retired fauji socks.



There is no free lunch.

Someone somehow has to pay.

I thought we are grown ups. and thus do not believe in Santa clause leaving the gifts under our beds.

I thought we are mature enough.

Sure we are mature enough to throw the system of doom, which can bring 70 dishes of food for politicians but cant bring a bread to the poors of the country?
Sure we need to kick our the system which is building more mayfair mansions & surrey palaces in UK, but the poor of the country cant even get a free space of 100 meters to build a room for themselves!

 

[Viper0011.]

If this is what you believe, then you really shouldn't support PMLN.
Here's what they did before:

You don't read very well do you? I've told you many times, I have NO sympathy for NS or support. If you have the proofs, I'd LOVE to see a crook in Jail (if you can prove it to the court). I support the democratic system who's put him in charge, but he's not the issue. The system is. I support democratic right of every Pakistani to live a better life, without Extremist and Violence and innocents getting killed.
I am definitely against these people who call themselves leaders and end up hurting hundreds of people's lives through forcing them to do violence and get killed. While they sit behind bullet proof cars. And the country takes a hit of billions due to lost business and not to mention bad reputation. I support peace, stability and growth for Pakistan!