Global Religious landscape- Pew Forum

[Bang Galore]

Factually incorrect.

Historically, Hinduism has been the most vicious, expansionist religion on the planet, after Christianity.

The native tribal religions of South Asia have been all been eradicated by Vedic Hinduism. Even now, isolated tribes in the south preserve the ancestral belief system in the face of constant assault by Hindus. Now, I don't expect you guys to admit any of this, but Tamil and Dravidian nationalists remember very well what used to be indigenous, and what was imposed by the Vedic conquests.

Also, this talk of Dharmic faiths v/s Abrahamic faiths is hilarious considering that Buddhism, which once dominated South Asia, was purged from the region by Hindu fanatics and only found refuge in the rest of Asia, away from the clutches of the Brahmanists.

If any Buddhists think the Hindu fundamentalists have found a new love or tolerance for Buddhism, they are in for a shock.

Firstly I'm amused that you consider India to be the entire planet. The rest of your post is neither logical nor supported by facts. Unnecessarily provocative.

 

[Developereo]

Well, that is one of the major reasons why conversions to Islam and Christianity have almost stopped in India now. The caste system is not half as strong as it used to be.

As long as it remains, people will convert out of Hinduism depending on facts on the ground, as opposed to official proclamations.

We are talking about conversions in the modern era, not 1000 years ago. In the modern era, Abrahamic religions mandate their people to convert others, the Dharmic faiths dont.

The claim was that Hinduism does not condone conversions. Historically, that is patently false. Hinduism may have put the brakes on within the last 1000 years, but that behavior was forced onto it since other faiths were ascendant and Hinduism was forced into retreat and relatively confined, geographically. Now that the colonial era is over, we see the old face of Hindu nationalism rising out of the ashes, intent on establishing Hinduism as a privileged religion in India, and reconverting "blood of the soil" back to the "faith of the soil".

There is no Hindu fundamentalism as you would like to believe. No one gets shot or killed for changing faiths to a Dharmic faith. It is much more acceptable than to convert to an Abrahamic faith because it is more compatible with India's culture.

Vedic culture is an import into most of India, especially southern India, just as much as Buddhism or the Abrahamic faiths are.

You would be happy (or unahappy) to know that Budhism is the largest growing religion by means of Conversion in India and that includes conversions of people from Hinduism as well Islam.

It doesn't affect me either way. However, as I noted, if any Buddhists think they will be spared the wrath of the Hindutva fanatics because they are a dharmic faith, they are in for a shock. This is not speculation; this is historical fact.

You can help by giving some factual accounts or links.

The subject has been discussed several times, and links provided. You can start by googling or otherwise reading up on Dravidian nationalism, identity, etc.

 

[Spring Onion]

Can anyone from India tell me how one can become pundit ?

 

[jbond197]

Can anyone from India tell me how one can become pundit ?

Get Knowledge and you will be a pundit (knowledgeable man). gain more knowledge and spread it to others then you will be a guru (teacher).

 

[Developereo]

Firstly I'm amused that you consider India to be the entire planet.

In the context of how Hinduism achieved its current numbers as 15% of the population, compared to similar figures by other religions, the statement is correct. What matters is the number of people involved, not their geographical distribution.

The rest of your post is neither logical nor supported by facts. Unnecessarily provocative.

It was in response to the self-righteous claims that keep popping up from Hindutva defendents that whitewash the history of Hinduism compared to other religions. The fact remains that indigenous religions in South Asia have been all but wiped out by Vedic ideology.

 

[Android]

OK before this thread turns into another crusade‚ jihad or dharmayudh mods plz close it

 

[Bang Galore]

At least Hindu nationalists on this forum have the intellectual honesty and courage to be up front about their agenda.

Unlike intellectual dishonest people who claim they are "atheists", but immediately show their true colors when Hinduism is involved because, er, um, Hinduism isn't really a religion, you see, it's er, um, well, a philosophy and a way of life, er, yeah.

Shows a complete lack of understanding of Hinduism, being atheistic need not mean breaking away from Hinduism. Your assumption that the two are incompatible is not necessarily correct(though I'm not sure whether that is applicable to the particular poster you were responding to).

 

[Azazel]

In the context of how Hinduism achieved its current numbers as 15% of the population, compared to similar figures by other religions, the statement is correct. What matters is the number of people involved, not their geographical distribution.



It was in response to the self-righteous claims that keep popping up from Hindutva defendents that whitewash the history of Hinduism compared to other religions. The fact remains that indigenous religions in South Asia have been all but wiped out by Vedic ideology.

What are the indigenous religions.How were they wiped out.We are open to discussion.

 

[Android]

In the context of how Hinduism achieved its current numbers as 15% of the population, compared to similar figures by other religions, the statement is correct. What matters is the number of people involved, not their geographical distribution.



It was in response to the self-righteous claims that keep popping up from Hindutva defendents that whitewash the history of Hinduism compared to other religions. The fact remains that indigenous religions in South Asia have been all but wiped out by Vedic ideology.

how has Sikhism Buddhism or Jainism been wiped out by vedic ideology

 

[jbond197]

Shows a complete lack of understanding of Hinduism, being atheistic need not mean breaking away from Hinduism. Your assumption that the two are incompatible is not necessarily correct(though I'm not sure whether that is applicable to the particular poster you were responding to).

That's a difficult concept to grasp for the ones, who grew up being told, to follow a set of rules otherwise they will not be called what they are!!

 

[Spring Onion]

Get Knowledge and you will be a pundit (knowledgeable man). gain more knowledge and spread it to others then you will be a guru (teacher).

Guru /teachers is something different since there can be dance gurus as well.

I am asking about pure religious Hindu pundit.

Apart from upanayana sanskaara and Gayatri japa practice what else they need to become a Hindu pundit?


how much bloodline involved in this ?

 

[Azazel]

At least Hindu nationalists on this forum have the intellectual honesty and courage to be up front about their agenda.

Unlike intellectual dishonest people who claim they are "atheists", but immediately show their true colors when Hinduism is involved because, er, um, Hinduism isn't really a religion, you see, it's er, um, well, a philosophy and a way of life, er, yeah.

What is Hinduism according to your understanding.Atheism is part of Hindu philosophies.Their are many Hindu sects that practice atheism.So when a Pakistani comes up with his false propaganda its natural for even Athiest to respond.If you criticize Hinduism more rationally we will accept it.You must understand Hinduism has never been hostile any new ideas.

 

[Spring Onion]

Shows a complete lack of understanding of Hinduism, being atheistic need not mean breaking away from Hinduism. Your assumption that the two are incompatible is not necessarily correct(though I'm not sure whether that is applicable to the particular poster you were responding to).

well its like saying being ethiest and still following your religion. Means its cosmatic surgery to look good but inside you are the same.

 

[KRAIT]

well its like saying being ethiest and still following your religion. Means its cosmatic surgery to look good but inside you are the same.

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. Atheism doesn't mean having no religion.

One can follow Hinduism, yet not believe in deities. That's the beauty of this religion. Religion doesn't mean existence of God.

Religion is a collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values.

Both definition from Wikipedia.

 

[KS]

Factually incorrect.

Historically, Hinduism has been the most vicious, expansionist religion on the planet, after Christianity.

The native tribal religions of South Asia have been all been eradicated by Vedic Hinduism. Even now, isolated tribes in the south preserve the ancestral belief system in the face of constant assault by Hindus. Now, I don't expect you guys to admit any of this, but Tamil and Dravidian nationalists remember very well what used to be indigenous, and what was imposed by the Vedic conquests.

Large numbers of South Asian Hindu converts opted for liberation out of the Vedic caste system, and into Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, as soon as they had the chance.

Also, this talk of Dharmic faiths v/s Abrahamic faiths is hilarious considering that Buddhism, which once dominated South Asia, was purged from the region by Hindu fanatics and only found refuge in the rest of Asia, away from the clutches of the Brahmanists.

If any Buddhists think the Hindu fundamentalists have found a new love or tolerance for Buddhism, they are in for a shock.

I'm a Tamilian, as Dravidian as they come and I disagree. I'm also not going to dignify the rest of your skull cap bullcrap with a rebuttal. Been over it plenty of times. BTW the bolded part, nice touch. Fart all over the keyboard and add a patronizing "I dont expect you guys to believe". Of course shylock.

Evangelical Christianity is the fastest growing Christianity on the planet (conversion), and they are the bible thumpers.

Oh yeah and Wahabbi salafism is the fastest growing branch of Islam on the planet, so go figure the two craziest branches of Islam and Christianity are spreading like a wild fire.

Evangelical christianity is rooted in America. Not Europe.