Global Religious landscape- Pew Forum

[Contrarian]

India and China are the key. If they can somehow sucessfully withstand the Abrahamic conversion spree, it would be fine.

50% of the world's population not following the Abrahamic religions, that is not going to sit well with many.

Well, conversions in India atleast are on a serious decline. And most conversions in India were from Hinduism or Budhism to Islam or Christianity.

Thankfully, that has now reduced to a trickle. I think it had a lot to do a lot with a growing economy and getting better off than before. There is lesser incentive to move to a different religion.

I read a report that Budhism is the fastest growing religion in India by way of conversion now.

By birth rates Islam is the fastest growing religion in India. Although in another decade or so, even they should start reducing the birth rate.
@Chinese-Dragon, could you please elaborate on how the CPC is now encouraging Budhism and Confucianism. I thought they eschewed all religions? i support the move however.

 

[Spring Onion]

In my opinion, there should be only one religion and that should be the Worlds Oldest Religion. i.e

Hinduism.

Which form? of Brahmins or of Dalits?

 

[Azazel]

Which form? of Brahmins or of Dalits?

Their is no form,but only different philosophies.Unlike you we are comfortable to talk about our issues.

 

[Developereo]

That is a huuuuuuuge overstatement. Considering the conversion sprees Christianity and Islam have had for the last 2000 an 1400 years respectively, ISKON pales in comparison. Converting few thousand hippies every year does not earn them a place in the conversion hall of fame.

India and China are the key. If they can somehow sucessfully withstand the Abrahamic conversion spree, it would be fine.

Factually incorrect.

Historically, Hinduism has been the most vicious, expansionist religion on the planet, after Christianity.

The native tribal religions of South Asia have been all been eradicated by Vedic Hinduism. Even now, isolated tribes in the south preserve the ancestral belief system in the face of constant assault by Hindus. Now, I don't expect you guys to admit any of this, but Tamil and Dravidian nationalists remember very well what used to be indigenous, and what was imposed by the Vedic conquests.

Large numbers of South Asian Hindu converts opted for liberation out of the Vedic caste system, and into Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, as soon as they had the chance.

Also, this talk of Dharmic faiths v/s Abrahamic faiths is hilarious considering that Buddhism, which once dominated South Asia, was purged from the region by Hindu fanatics and only found refuge in the rest of Asia, away from the clutches of the Brahmanists.

If any Buddhists think the Hindu fundamentalists have found a new love or tolerance for Buddhism, they are in for a shock.

 

[KRAIT]

Attack on religions have been started.

 

[Azazel]

Factually incorrect.

Historically, Hinduism has been the most vicious, expansionist religion on the planet, after Christianity.

The native tribal religions of South Asia have been all been eradicated by Vedic Hinduism. Even now, isolated tribes in the south preserve the ancestral belief system in the face of constant assault by Hindus. Now, I don't expect you guys to admit any of this, but Tamil and Dravidian nationalists remember very well what used to be indigenous, and what was imposed by the Vedic conquests.

Also, this talk of Dharmic faiths v/s Abrahamic faiths is hilarious considering that Buddhism, which once dominated South Asia, was purged from the region by Hindu fanatics and only found refuge in the rest of Asia, away from the clutches of the Brahmanists.

If any Buddhists think the Hindu fundamentalists have found a new love or tolerance for Buddhism, they are in for a shock.

BS,Tell me,How did the so called Hindu expansionism happened.Give us one historical account of a Hindu purges.
And you know nothing about Tamils,Their indigenous culture is part of great Vedic civilization of India.Read more about the three royal dynasties—the Cholas, the Cheras and the Pandyas—rose to dominate the ancient Tamil country. The Bhakti movement of Hinduism originated in TamilNadu and spread across all part of India.In fact, TamilNadu is one of the centre of the modern Hinduism.

Give me at least one accurate historical account of this so called Hindu purges on Buddhism.

 

[Developereo]

Their is no form,but only different philosophies.Unlike you we are comfortable to talk about our issues.

At least Hindu nationalists on this forum have the intellectual honesty and courage to be up front about their agenda.

Unlike intellectual dishonest people who claim they are "atheists", but immediately show their true colors when Hinduism is involved because, er, um, Hinduism isn't really a religion, you see, it's er, um, well, a philosophy and a way of life, er, yeah.

Attack on religions have been started.

They started a long time back.

You should know, since you thanked, and responded to, a number of such posts.

 

[Spring Onion]

Their is no form,but only different philosophies.Unlike you we are comfortable to talk about our issues.

I am open to spread of your religion however since Hinduism doesnt allow conversions and i understand since it has different classes (low cast/ high cast) you may call these different philosophies but again the question is if someone converts to Hinduism how will you classify him? Dalit or Brahmin?


Apart from that can you tell me who can become a Pundit ?

 

[Developereo]

BS,Tell me,How did the so called Hindu expansionism happened.Give us one historical account of a Hindu purges.
And you know nothing about Tamils,Their indigenous culture is part of great Vedic civilization of India.Read more about the three royal dynasties—the Cholas, the Cheras and the Pandyas—rose to dominate the ancient Tamil country. The Bhakti movement of Hinduism originated in TamilNadu and spread across all part of India.In fact, TamilNadu is one of the centre of the modern Hinduism.

Give me at least one accurate historical account of this so called Hindu purges on Buddhism.

I am not going to waste any time on an intellectually dishonest Hindutva fanatic masquerading as an "atheist".

Read up on Dravidian and Tamil nationalist literature, which details the Vedic barbaric assaults on their indigenous culture.

 

[Contrarian]

Large numbers of South Asian Hindu converts opted for liberation out of the Vedic caste system, and into Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, as soon as they had the chance.

Well, that is one of the major reasons why conversions to Islam and Christianity have almost stopped in India now. The caste system is not half as strong as it used to be. Rise of modern cities and work have made it redundant. And so the oppression of Brahmans against the Dalits, etc is practically dead in many parts. It still exists in villages of backward states, but even then, the severity of discrimination is not like it used to be earlier.

This Coupled with reservations and better economic upward mobility of the masses has almost stopped conversions out of Hinduism to Islam in mainland India, and Christianity in NE India.

Thankfully!

Also, this talk of Dharmic faiths v/s Abrahamic faiths is hilarious considering that Buddhism, which once dominated South Asia, was purged from the region by Hindu fanatics and only found refuge in the rest of Asia, away from the clutches of the Brahmanists.

If any Buddhists think the Hindu fundamentalists have found a new love or tolerance for Buddhism, they are in for a shock.

We are talking about conversions in the modern era, not 1000 years ago. In the modern era, Abrahamic religions mandate their people to convert others, the Dharmic faiths dont.
There is no Hindu fundamentalism as you would like to believe. No one gets shot or killed for changing faiths to a Dharmic faith. It is much more acceptable than to convert to an Abrahamic faith because it is more compatible with India's culture.

You would be happy (or unahappy) to know that Budhism is the largest growing religion by means of Conversion in India and that includes conversions of people from Hinduism as well Islam.

Read up on Dravidian and Tamil nationalist literature, which details the Vedic barbaric assaults on their indigenous culture.

You can help by giving some factual accounts or links.

 

[jbond197]

Read up on Dravidian and Tamil nationalist literature, which details the Vedic barbaric assaults on their indigenous culture.

Point me to one as I am interested in reading and may be Tamils on PDF can share their views as well as they must be knowing about their literature more than you or others on PDF..

@Sashan - you are needed on this thread. Please let us know if there were any Vedic barbaric assaults on Tamil indigenous culture as Pakistani Think tank is making some tall claims here on this thread.

 

[jbond197]

At least Hindu nationalists on this forum have the intellectual honesty and courage to be up front about their agenda.

Unlike intellectual dishonest people who claim they are "atheists", but immediately show their true colors when Hinduism is involved because, er, um, Hinduism isn't really a religion, you see, it's er, um, well, a philosophy and a way of life, er, yeah.

There is a concept of atheism with in Hinduism. That's why people are called Aastik or Nastik but still they remain Hindus. You being a Islamist, I don't expect you to be aware of Hinduism concepts much so am just gonna blame your ignorance!

A primer for you - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism

 

[Azazel]

I am not going to waste any time on an intellectually dishonest Hindutva fanatic masquerading as an "atheist".

Read up on Dravidian and Tamil nationalist literature, which details the Vedic barbaric assaults on their indigenous culture.

You are only intellectually dishonest and ignorant here.Tamil nationalists only opposed the supremacy of Sanskrit literature in Hinduism.They demanded Tamil as the equal of Sanskrit in terms of literary prestige as it has been in the past.Some of them even demanded to endow ancient Tamil texts with the status of a "fifth Veda."Tamil culture is inherently Vedic in nature.But they didn't like Brahmins because Brahmins promoted Sanskrit over Tamil and they sought to bring down Brahmin hegemony in society.

BTW,Do you know the founder of modern Hindutva was actually an atheist.I don't even support it, but I am just telling the truth.For that calling me a fanatic just shows the Indophobic indoctrination you have.

 

[Android]

Also, this talk of Dharmic faiths v/s Abrahamic faiths is hilarious considering that Buddhism, which once dominated South Asia, was purged from the region by Hindu fanatics and only found refuge in the rest of Asia, away from the clutches of the Brahmanists.

If any Buddhists think the Hindu fundamentalists have found a new love or tolerance for Buddhism, they are in for a shock.

you need to understand that in India Buddhism was never regarded and is still not considered an another different religion itself but just another sect of Hinduism that's the reason we worship lord Buddha as an incarnation of lord vishnu

Also, this talk of Dharmic faiths v/s Abrahamic faiths is hilarious considering that Buddhism, which once dominated South Asia, was purged from the region by Hindu fanatics and only found refuge in the rest of Asia, away from the clutches of the Brahmanists.

If any Buddhists think the Hindu fundamentalists have found a new love or tolerance for Buddhism, they are in for a shock.

you need to understand that in India Buddhism was never regarded and is still not considered an another different religion itself but just another sect of Hinduism that's the reason we worship lord Buddha as an incarnation of lord vishnu

 

[KRAIT]

At least Hindu nationalists on this forum have the intellectual honesty and courage to be up front about their agenda.
Unlike intellectual dishonest people who claim they are "atheists", but immediately show their true colors when Hinduism is involved because, er, um, Hinduism isn't really a religion, you see, it's er, um, well, a philosophy and a way of life, er, yeah.
They started a long time back.
You should know, since you thanked, and responded to, a number of such posts.

Agreed. So does that allw others. Coz I just asked chronological occurrence of religions.