Give Pervez Musharraf Support

[Icarus]

because of this Terrorist today we suffer !! in everything!

put all of money in his pocket and runofff!!!!

I think if Pervez Musharraf had stolen Pakistan's money he would have an estate in Mayfair like Nawaz Sharif or Farm houses in Switzerland like Benazir Bhutto.

P.S: Do you know, Nawaz Sharif paid extra to be given the flat next to Michael Jackson ?

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i hate pervaiz musharaf

Just like that ? No reason or Justification ?

 

[Icarus]

Nice to know Arslan you have AIDS.

You forgot rabies.

 

[S_O_C_O_M]

*** all of you Musharraf haters. How can you not love him? He is smart and one of the most intelligent Pakistani President to ever lead Pakistan. You damn fundamentalist religious fanatics make me sick.

 

[Icarus]

*** all of you Musharraf haters. How can you not love him? He is smart and one of the most intelligent Pakistani President to ever lead Pakistan. You damn fundamentalist religious fanatics make me sick.

That's not right, everyone is entitled to hold and share their political/social and religious views without being subject to criticism or abuse.

 

[sohailpk]

super thread + video

 

[MZUBAIR]

*** all of you Musharraf haters. How can you not love him? He is smart and one of the most intelligent Pakistani President to ever lead Pakistan. You damn fundamentalist religious fanatics make me sick.

Charges on him...

Corruption rose.
DR AQ was made notorious.
Attack on Mosque.
Money value went down.
Poverty rose up.
100;s of persons were kidnapped.
Destroyed Judicary
Destroyed Constitution.
Steel mills corruption.
Corruptions in election
Adhoc system was implemented.
No future planning.
more n more

Culprit: PervaizvMushraf.
Punishment: To be hanged till death

 

[RescueRanger]

This thread is very indicative of the national mindset, so much hate for one man, with all out attention focused on such trivial matters its no wonder we are a laughing stock amongst the international community.

 

[MZUBAIR]

Charges on him...

He rose corruption in Pakistan.
He was involved to defame DR AQ and he arrested hero of nation.
Attack on Mosque.
Pak Ruppee value went down, coz of his poor policies.
He promoted corrupt leaders.
He is the creator of NRO.
People fall at poverty level.
100;s of persons were kidnapped.
100;s of persons were killed.
Destroyed Judicary on his own intrest.
Destroyed Constitution. (Punichmenst Capital Death)
Steel mills corruption.
Corruptions in election
Adhoc system was implemented in all organizations.
No future planning for the nation and country.
Filled his own pockets.
more n more

 

[SSGPA1]

Charges on him...

He rose corruption in Pakistan.

You are absolutely wrong!According to the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI):

Pakistan's CPI was 2.2 in 1999
(best country 1999 = Denmark at 10.00 CPI) This is Nawaz Sharif's era.

In 2002 it improved to 2.6
In 2007 it was 2.4
In 2008 it was 2.5

Above is Musharraf era!

Transparency International

He was involved to defame DR AQ and he arrested hero of nation.

Wrong again! Iran and Libya spilled the beans. President Musharraf saved the skins of entire political leadership (Nawaz Sharif and BB included), military top brass and others. All blame fell on one person and nuclear program was saved from sanctions.

Attack on Mosque.

May be you don't understand the role of a govt. and that is to protect its people by establishing the writ of govt. Lal Masjid episode started in January and govt. waited for 6 months before taking actions. Go and listen to your fav. hamid Mir tapes where he openly says that Ghazi wantd to surrender but Khalid Khawaja tricked Ghazi in carrying on with fighting. This was all done by Nawaz Sharif and Hamid Gul, the two closet talibans.

Pak Ruppee value went down, coz of his poor policies.

You are either naive or still in class 6. The poor policies and frauds of Nawaz Sharif caused teh devaluation.

In 1995, exchange rate was 1 US Dollar = 30.62 Pakistani Rupees
In 2000, exchange rate was 1 US Dollar = 51.64 Pakistani Rupees

In five years NS and PPPP killed the economy'

Now lets look at the Musharraf era:

In 2000, exchange rate was 1 US Dollar = 59.86 Pakistani Rupees
A little over 9 rupees in five years!!

Economy of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

He promoted corrupt leaders.

Who voted for the corrupt leaders? You did! Why did Pakistan voted for PPP and NS?

He is the creator of NRO.

and he is not proud of it and this is where his greatness lies because he does accept his mistakes!

People fall at poverty level.

Bunch of hog wash! Prove it with numbers from authentic sources!

100;s of persons were kidnapped.

A total of 242 people were missing (2009 figures) so lets not dramatized the facts here. Some are security related cases and some are cases where the person is in Afghanistan at his own will, planning to destabilize Pakistan.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

100;s of persons were killed.

What nonsense?? Where are the facts???

Destroyed Judicary on his own intrest.

President Musharraf acted on the advise of the PM as per the constitution. There was no damage to the judiciary and now the judiciary is independent. So what has the judiciary done in the last two yrs? ZERO!!!

Destroyed Constitution. (Punichmenst Capital Death)

LOL ... Read the constitution first and then come back and discuss (hint: Article 6)

The Constitution of Pakistan

Steel mills corruption.

It was the only time in history of Pakistan Steels when it was actually profitable. What is the condition PS now???

Corruptions in election

2008 elections were the most free and fair elections in the history of pakistan. A gift from President Musharraf.

Adhoc system was implemented in all organizations.

Examples please and also quote the ones which have been corrected by NS and Zardari in the last two years.

No future planning for the nation and country.

OMG! I have hit jackpot! lets meet some where in Lahore and I will present you to the media! People really need to know that we have a genius like you in our country.

President Musharraf brought police reforms and implemented the Local Government Ordinance, 2001. this is the biggest achievement because now people will elect future leaders from the grass root level. I know you will not agree because you will never get it!

Filled his own pockets.

Again, provide some evidence. President Musharraf is earning his money through lectures and not by selling Pakistan like Nawaz Sharif did.

 

[Hammy007]

May be you don't understand the role of a govt. and that is to protect its people by establishing the writ of govt. Lal Masjid episode started in January and govt. waited for 6 months before taking actions. Go and listen to your fav. hamid Mir tapes where he openly says that Ghazi wantd to surrender but Khalid Khawaja tricked Ghazi in carrying on with fighting. This was all done by Nawaz Sharif and Hamid Gul, the two closet talibans.

yaah and musharraf wanted to establish the writ of the govt same like the army did in 1971??, lets see, musharraf goes and apologises the bengalis for what army did in '71 and then musharraf makes the same mistake and thism time in the heart of the capital city of pakistan.

second, yaah this musharraf protected international criminals like BB and NS, just to protect his seat, so it means, as he says "first of all pakistan", no it was his seat he wanted most!!

and a blessing of musharraf, we got zerdari in the form of president of pakistan.

 

[BATMAN]

Good reply SSGP, i don't know why people have blinds on their eyes.
One little correction to below statement

In 1995, exchange rate was 1 US Dollar = 30.62 Pakistani Rupees
In 2000, exchange rate was 1 US Dollar = 51.64 Pakistani Rupees

In 1999:
1 USD = 80PKR in black market and no bank local or foreign were accepting Pak currency.
In reality Pakistan was bankrupted.... it was matter of time, govt. declaring it officialy.
Salaries of state employees were unpaid for many months.
Industry, was near collapse.. as they could not buy spareparts from foreign markets becuase banks were not accepting Pak currency against any foreign currency.
Exporters, were not bringing back their earnings due to frozen private forex accounts.
There was complete ban on export of man power to middleast, only hope was the over seas Pakistani.
Even BB did not wished rule a bankrupt state and left, voluntarily.

Post 2000, Pakistan was declared best performing stock exchange in the world for 3 consecitive years.

 

[BATMAN]

blessing of musharraf, we got zerdari in the form of president of pakistan.

I think you are forgetting the so called joint democratic alliance against Musharraf.
NRO was expired on its due date which was one year before CJ declared it invalid.
It is an opportunity to declare his election illegal and put him behind the bars for good.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Good reply SSGP, i don't know why people have blinds on their eyes.
One little correction to below statement


In 1999:
1 USD = 80PKR in black market and no bank local or foreign were accepting Pak currency.
In reality Pakistan was bankrupted.... it was matter of time, govt. declaring it officialy.
Salaries of state employees were unpaid for many months.
Industry, was near collapse.. as they could not buy spareparts from foreign markets becuase banks were not accepting Pak currency against any foreign currency.
Exporters, were not bringing back their earnings due to frozen private forex accounts.
There was complete ban on export of man power to middleast, only hope was the over seas Pakistani.
Even BB did not wished rule a bankrupt state and left, voluntarily.

Post 2000, Pakistan was declared best performing stock exchange in the world for 3 consecitive years.

I have been closely following this interesting debate and I really like the reply of Sparklingaway in the beginnig of this thread.

While I might agree or disagree with a lot of what has been written here by a number of members but one must agree to the fact that freezing of the dollar accounts was an act of colossal stupidity by NS and his team after the N Explosion.

This act alone if remained unchecked would have taken us down as a country. i am amazed at NS's stupidity. he should have known better being a business man himself that whatever confidence people had in Pakistan would vanish overnight.

The worst was that key elements in his cabinet got their money out overnight!

This was just to bring things in perspective for those of us who worship the "Ameer -ul- Momineen" and have conveniently forgotten his two tenures and its "Honest" affairs.

 

[SSGPA1]

yaah and musharraf wanted to establish the writ of the govt same like the army did in 1971??, lets see, musharraf goes and apologises the bengalis for what army did in '71 and then musharraf makes the same mistake and thism time in the heart of the capital city of pakistan.

second, yaah this musharraf protected international criminals like BB and NS, just to protect his seat, so it means, as he says "first of all pakistan", no it was his seat he wanted most!!

and a blessing of musharraf, we got zerdari in the form of president of pakistan.

Lets not blame PA alone for 1971 as Bhutto couldn't accept Sh. Mujeeb as a PM and entire West Pakistan is also to be blamed for calling East Pakistanis traitors when they actually won the elections.

how many Church or Mosques are used for storing weapons in London?

What will happen if a mosque is used by militants to hide weapons in Tehran, Riyadh, London, Istanbul or Jakarta?

What will happen if a mosque leaders send people to kidnap police and damage private property in Tehran, Riyadh, London, Istanbul or Jakarta?

Govt. didn't do anything wrong in taking action against the militants.

 

[SSGPA1]

Sardar Attique says vehemently supports Musharraf’s Kashmir policy​

MUZAFARABAD, (SANA): President of All Jammu and Kashmir Muslim conference Sardar Attique Ahmad Khan has said General Pervaiz Musharraf was a strong leader adding that his party vehemently still supports his Kashmir policy.

He linked better future of the country to military democracy adding that a democracy free of check and balance didn’t suit the country.

He said Muslim League has turned blind eye on the saying of father of the nation Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah in connection of Gilgit- Baltistan issue.

Addressing the budget session, he said all the credit for the reconstructions of earthquake disastrous areas went to General Pervaiz Musharraf who had better understandings internationally.

He said that General Musharraf has used which formulae’s of regions and self rule for solving the Kashmir issue that was the better way for solving the issue.

Lauding Musharraf eight- years long dictatorship, Sardar Attique said that the former military man forced India on the dialogue table.

He reiterated negotiation was the only way out to settle the long standing Kashmir dispute.

He suggested the army was the only organized and active department and it should play its role in democracy.
He said that when Peoples Party had given rights to Gilgit Baltistan then the party of Quaid’s philosophy demanded to give it constitutional safety that was very sad.

He said that Muslim conference was the historical and high traditional party. He said his party had introduced tolerance and brotherhood.

He underlined the need that the Indian premier Manmohan Singh should come forward to resolve the Kashmir dispute in greater regional interest.

Sardar Attique says vehemently supports Musharraf?s Kashmir policy