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Gilani seeks more evidence against Lashkar for action

WASHINGTON: Promising not to tolerate extremists using his country as a base to attack India, Pakistani Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani has urged Washington to help ease tensions with its neighbour. But he also sought more evidence about Laskar-e-Taiba's (LeT) before acting against the Pakistan-based group blamed for the November 2008 Mumbai attacks that killed 166 persons.

Pakistan had banned Let and frozen their bank accounts, Gilani told reporters on Monday confirming that President Barack Obama had raised the issue of action against LeT relaying concerns from Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

"If we have more effective evidence, certainly they will be brought to justice," he added. "We don't want our soil used against any country and neither would we allow somebody else's soil to be used against Pakistan," Gilani said.


Foreign secretary Nirupama Rao had on Sunday told reporters Manmohan Singh had stressed the need for Pakistan to take convincing action against those accused for involvement in the Mumbai attacks when Obama said he favoured the reduction of tensions between New Delhi and Islamabad.

"President Obama discussed with me that he really wants ... good relations (between India and Pakistan) and certainly it is in everybody's interests to play a role, whatever they can play, to bring Pakistan and India closer," Gilani said.

Asked whether he would meet Manmohan Singh in Washington on the margins of the nuclear security summit, Gilani said: "It is not scheduled at the moment."

Gilani repeated a plea for an India-type civil nuclear deal saying, "We believe that the objectives of nuclear nonproliferation would be better served if the policy of nondiscrimination is adopted across the globe for peaceful uses of nuclear energy."

India needed to "look beyond Mumbai," Pakistan's foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi told reporters later. "Mumbai was sad, Mumbai was tragic and should not have happened. But we are as much victims of terrorism as Indians are."

Asked what role Washington could play in the peace process, he said: "To nudge us together and to facilitate the process."

"The more ease we have on the eastern front (with India), the better equipped we are to deal with the western front (Afghanistan)."

"Prime Minister Manmohan Singh means well. We have no doubt about that," Qureshi said. "But the problem is that he has not been able to carry domestic politics along within the Congress Party and the BJP," he said suggesting both the ruling party and the opposition were not supportive of the Indian leader in reaching out to Pakistan.

The BJP "has been very hawkish on him, I think unfair to him, and unfair to the region because... coexistence is the most sensible way forward," Qureshi said.
 
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Gilani seeks more evidence against Lashkar for action


India needed to "look beyond Mumbai," Pakistan's foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi told reporters later. "Mumbai was sad, Mumbai was tragic and should not have happened. But we are as much victims of terrorism as Indians are."

But there is difference between India's and Pakistan's suffering from terrorism. Pakistan is a victim of terrorism which is a domestic problem. TTP is a Pakistani organization and no international terrorists are attacking Pakistan.

Whereas India is a victim of terrorism which in which terrorists are coming across the border and government across the border accepting it.

Shah Mehmood Qureshi is smart enough to understand the different situation and hence he should stop crying that Pakistan is as much victims of terrorism as India is.India is a victim of international terrorism where as Pakistan is of home grown.:angry:

The only similarity in both the countries is both are victim of Pakistan based terrorist outfits.
 
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and i guess your buddies in RAW are just running yoga programs right ?

Our PM promised more than your scumbag government will ever do against the biggest terrorist organisation that is RAW
 
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"If we have more effective evidence, certainly they will be brought to justice," he added. "We don't want our soil used against any country and neither would we allow somebody else's soil to be used against Pakistan," Gilani said.

Pakistan had banned Let and frozen their bank accounts, Gilani told reporters on Monday confirming that President Barack Obama had raised the issue of action against LeT relaying concerns from Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

What kind of evidences Mr.Gilani want? Why Pakistan had banned Let and frozen their bank accounts? Just for fun? Why Obama had raised the issue of action against LeT? Why Let has been declared as international terrorist outfit? Let changed name to JuD and now operates through JuD ....whole world knows about this except GoP?

Will ever any evidence be adequate for GoP to punish these masterminds of 26/11 ?

Mr.Gilani first you have to produce the evidence that how willing and committed you are in this WoT?
 
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and i guess your buddies in RAW are just running yoga programs right ?

Our PM promised more than your scumbag government will ever do against the biggest terrorist organisation that is RAW

Your government has not produced any evidence in front of the world that our buddies in RAW are not just running yoga programs.:P
 
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What kind of evidences Mr.Gilani want? Why Pakistan had banned Let and frozen their bank accounts? Just for fun? Why Obama had raised the issue of action against LeT? Why Let has been declared as international terrorist outfit? Let changed name to JuD and now operates through JuD ....whole world knows about this except GoP?

Will ever any evidence be adequate for GoP to punish these masterminds of 26/11 ?

Mr.Gilani first you have to produce the evidence that how willing and committed you are in this WoT?

As long as PM Gilani is able to fend of Indian allegation he is doing fine Job. It does not matter if Indian has tons of truth. Why would US bother to look into the matter and act as Jury ? Its happy if it gets its soldiers back from Afghanistan.
 
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What kind of evidences Mr.Gilani want? Why Pakistan had banned Let and frozen their bank accounts? Just for fun? Why Obama had raised the issue of action against LeT? Why Let has been declared as international terrorist outfit? Let changed name to JuD and now operates through JuD ....whole world knows about this except GoP?

He wants evident evidences, not :blah: :blah: of Indian media thats it. Verbal accusaion is of no use, India, which is holding the prosecution of the accused of Mumbai Incidents, has not given any concrete evidences which can be acted upon.

Secondly, the ban on LeT was due to UN resolution, since Pakistan really follows and acts upon the advice of resolutions of UN, obviously unlike India, we banned LeT and every other terrorist organization, some which had not been demanded by the world to be banned.

Obama concerns that LeT and other organizations are hand in hand with extremists of Pak-Afghan bordering terrorists, against whom Pakistan Army is fighting.

Will ever any evidence be adequate for GoP to punish these masterminds of 26/11 ?

Will ever any "evidence" (Not any crap) be given to Pakistan by India??? No. Because they have no evidence except a so-called caught-alive terrorist.


What evidence India requires to punish the culprits of Samjhota Express incident? Why India did not punish the Govt. officials accused in that incident? Why no action at all in this regard?

KIT Over :pakistan::pakistan:
 
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This isn't unexpected. An old procrastinating trick. What else do you expect?
 
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Your government has not produced any evidence in front of the world that our buddies in RAW are not just running yoga programs.:P

Gilani knows what's happening behind the scenes and RAW's support for mass terrorism and mass killings. Thus his point is valid.
 
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Gilani knows what's happening behind the scenes and RAW's support for mass terrorism and mass killings. Thus his point is valid.

Yes he knows, so does everybody else in Pakistan including the folks on PDF. But astonishingly, non one ever says what the evidence is nor cares to bring it in the open. Further you have no tapped phone conversations, no Indians caught in the act with the TTP, nothing. Zilch. You know whats that called? A conspiracy theory.
 
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Again, India has never provided proof for it's consistent allegations against ISI either. Just yesterday Manmoham blamed ISI again in US. So that becomes a conspiracy theory as well by your definition.
 
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Well at least Indian support for Balochistan terrorists is 100% clear. Like I mentioned before, in an interview, a Balochi terrorist leader when asked about support from India became silent for 5 seconds and then said we will take support from whoever gives us. So Indian involvement in Balochistan is confirmed and not up for debate. At least to me. If you want to deny it, go ahead.
 
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Well at least Indian support for Balochistan terrorists is 100% clear. Like I mentioned before, a Balochi terrorist leader when asked about support from India became silent for 5 seconds and then said we will take support from whoever gives us. So Indian involvement in Balochistan is confirmed and not up for debate. At least to me. If you want to deny it, go ahead.

So thats your proof? the leader was silent for 5 seconds??

How bout we have a pakistani national in custody? with his family identifying him? the same person pakistan refused to call its national and 2 weeks later acknowledged as its national? and the open media briefings from Hafiz Saeed in Pakistan .. vowing to inflict more terror in india?

And despite india gving 4 dossiers to pakistan on its elements involvement.. why can't pakistan produce a s single one? and BTW india shared its dossiers with FBI and MI6 as well, as we have nothing hide.
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So thats your proof? the leader was silent for 5 seconds??

1. Yes, that should really be enough. You are using sarcasm to deflate something that normally should be enough. What was he silent about? What was asked before he went silent? Childish techniques like this don't work with me.
2. More importantly, did you read what I said right after that?

How bout we have a pakistani national in custody? with his family identifying him? the same person pakistan refused to call its national and 2 weeks later acknowledged as its national? and the open media briefings from Hafiz Saeed in Pakistan .. vowing to inflict more terror in india?

And despite india gving 4 dossiers to pakistan on its elements involvement.. why can't pakistan produce a s single one? and BTW india shared its dossiers with FBI and MI6 as well, as we have nothing hide.
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I am talking about indian allegations of ISI involvement. No proof of that ever. Indian government still spouts that crap and so do indians.
 
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1. Yes, that should really be enough. You are using sarcasm to deflate something that normally should be enough.
2. More importantly, did you read what I said right after that?



I am talking about indian allegations of ISI involvement. No proof of that ever. Indian government still spouts that crap and so do indians.

Indian govt doesn't need to say a word.. its your own govt claiming that ISI is no longer supporting organizations like Taliban.. and that ISI leadership has changed since Musharraf regime to be more neutral.. (quoted by DAWN).. Lets face it.. it has always been and will always be in ISI's interest to maintain ties with Taliban and Al-Qaeda to push its influence in Afghanistan and extended its Kashmir agenda.

How easy was it for Pakistan govt to capture number 2 commander of TTP from lahore? it was like they knew where he was already..:rolleyes:
 
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