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Ghar Wapsi unconstitutional, Conversion constitutional right:Christians

There were few instances of forced conversions.But to say every Muslim in sub-continent was forcibly converted is nothing but a lie. Most of the converts got converted due to Sufi saints and the rest converted to escape caste-system of hinduism.

I am sure SOME Hindus would have converted to Islam because of the message. Especially the message of equality, especially appealing to the lowers castes.

But 500 million amongst 1.6 billion? That's stretching the band of credibility way beyond breaking point.

Fact of the matter is that the largest swathe of Hindu to Muslim conversions happened in the wake of pretty brutal conquering armies.

For the rest, it was an easy way out, financially to avoid taxes on the unbelievers, and in terms of security and personal gain, to belong to the side that was in the ascendency.
 
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I am sure SOME Hindus would have converted to Islam because of the message. Especially the message of equality, especially appealing to the lowers castes.

But 500 million amongst 1.6 billion? That's stretching the band of credibility way beyond breaking point.

Fact of the matter is that the largest swathe of Hindu to Muslim conversions happened in the wake of pretty brutal conquering armies.

For the rest, it was an easy way out, financially to avoid taxes of the unbelievers, and in terms of security, to belong to the side that was in the ascendency.
My friend, Muslim rule ended in 1757 when British took over. Yet in those almost 200 years of Christian rule converts to Islam still kept increasing. Also our number increased due to high birth rate among Muslims.

Your population figure is of the present. Muslims were just bit above 24% in the sub-continent in 1947 now due to higher birth rate our population has exploded. Nothing to do with forced-conversions.

Your last point is true to some extent. But not every Muslim ruler imposed jizya tax. Higher castes didn't abandon their religion even if jizya was imposed. It was always the lower caste people. That is the reason why more than 90% of Muslims in India come under OBC category.

Now let's not divert the topic. Lets stick to the issue at hand. Even you know Muslims don't use tactics of Christians to convert Hindus.
 
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They only do love jihad ;)
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What are you trying to prove. I am not against conversion at all if done with someones consent. And I know who do these Missionaries convert the most. you kow the answer and the reason, both.
 
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but how can children make a choice and convert ?

there should be a law which prohibits conversion before the legal age of 18 - after 18 they are free to choose the religion

below 18 how do you make a child understand - how can you expect them to understand differentiate and choose ?
 
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Christian missionary groups in India are reportedly helping with the remarkable rise in Christianity in the second most populous country in the world, especially among young people as well as middle and high caste Indians.

"With more than 71 million claiming Christianity, India is now the eighth largest Christian nation in the world," said Dick McClain, president and CEO of The Mission Society, publisher of Unfinished. "Yet with 456 languages and more than 2,611 distinct people groups, India still has more people groups unreached with the gospel than any other nation – 88 percent of its population."

The rise of Christianity is detailed in the latest issue of Unfinished magazine, where The Mission Society, which recruits, trains and sends Christian missionaries around the world, details how the Gospel is creating a "new India." The missionary efforts are reportedly reaching new groups beyond the lower caste and marginalized communities, who traditionally have been the more likely to be open to Christianity.

Indian anthropologist Prabhu Singh identifies five dominant themes that define the missional challenges in India, but also points out that the rise of Christianity, which is still a minority religion there, is also being met by an increase in religious animosity, resulting in persecution and violence against Christians.

The last official nationwide survey in India in 2001 on religious beliefs identified that only 2.3 percent, or 24 million people, identify as Christians. The Mission Society claims that that number has risen dramatically in the past decade, however.

Singh added in a separate blog that the Indian church also sends out thousands of its own missionaries to share with people the message of Christ, but many do not receive money from abroad for their purposes.

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"For example, one south-India-based mission agency with nearly 2000 workers has an annual budget of almost nine million U.S. dollars, and all of its money is raised from Indians, both living in India and abroad," The Mission Society wrote in a blog post.

"Despite India's contribution to global missions and the rise of Global South Christianity, global missions continues under the grip of Western influence. How do we help, by God's grace, to rectify this? How do Americans begin to better regard our worldwide brothers and sisters as friends and equals in God's kingdom work?"

The latest Unfinished issue gives suggestions to believers for how they can pray for the "new India," and offers further statistical trends, including demographics on religion, hunger and suicide, and the rise of social media.

Christian Missions in India Reportedly Facilitating 'Remarkable' Rise of Christianity

How do these Christians hide their % in census?

@jha @ashok mourya @timetravel @sreekumar @danger007
 
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Christian missionary groups in India are reportedly helping with the remarkable rise in Christianity in the second most populous country in the world, especially among young people as well as middle and high caste Indians.

"With more than 71 million claiming Christianity, India is now the eighth largest Christian nation in the world," said Dick McClain, president and CEO of The Mission Society, publisher of Unfinished. "Yet with 456 languages and more than 2,611 distinct people groups, India still has more people groups unreached with the gospel than any other nation – 88 percent of its population."

The rise of Christianity is detailed in the latest issue of Unfinished magazine, where The Mission Society, which recruits, trains and sends Christian missionaries around the world, details how the Gospel is creating a "new India." The missionary efforts are reportedly reaching new groups beyond the lower caste and marginalized communities, who traditionally have been the more likely to be open to Christianity.

Indian anthropologist Prabhu Singh identifies five dominant themes that define the missional challenges in India, but also points out that the rise of Christianity, which is still a minority religion there, is also being met by an increase in religious animosity, resulting in persecution and violence against Christians.

The last official nationwide survey in India in 2001 on religious beliefs identified that only 2.3 percent, or 24 million people, identify as Christians. The Mission Society claims that that number has risen dramatically in the past decade, however.

Singh added in a separate blog that the Indian church also sends out thousands of its own missionaries to share with people the message of Christ, but many do not receive money from abroad for their purposes.

Follow us Get CP eNewsletter ››

"For example, one south-India-based mission agency with nearly 2000 workers has an annual budget of almost nine million U.S. dollars, and all of its money is raised from Indians, both living in India and abroad," The Mission Society wrote in a blog post.

"Despite India's contribution to global missions and the rise of Global South Christianity, global missions continues under the grip of Western influence. How do we help, by God's grace, to rectify this? How do Americans begin to better regard our worldwide brothers and sisters as friends and equals in God's kingdom work?"

The latest Unfinished issue gives suggestions to believers for how they can pray for the "new India," and offers further statistical trends, including demographics on religion, hunger and suicide, and the rise of social media.

Christian Missions in India Reportedly Facilitating 'Remarkable' Rise of Christianity

How do these Christians hide their % in census?

@jha @ashok mourya @timetravel @sreekumar @danger007

What has happened in South Korea and Japan , the same is taking place in India and within the last 150 years or so, the numbers of Christians increased very rapidly . 4 North Eastern states are Christian majority states and the numbers are high in South India too. I can see how much the Hindus are threaten by all this.

I can understand why PM Modi gifted Bhagvat Gita in Japan.
 
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My POV is people welfare comes first..what is the benefit of any religion if it cannot feed people??

Of course peoples welfare comes 1st but my point still stands religion is a serious thing in this part of the world & shouldn't be fooked with
& we should also ensure that any kind of funding from foreigners does not reach India only Indians must be allowed to donate money to india for these things
 
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Conversion should not be banned under any pretext. Even I support Ghar Wapsi, if you can bribe some muslim back to Hinduism, I dont have any problem with it. But dont ask them to wear Tupi or Burka before converting only for publicity stunt.


You have some valid points.But this was a well scripted drama.For pushing ACL law.

You don't the first thing about what you're talking about. Waste of time.

A silly usual excuse when peoples run out facts.
 
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