Getting Away with Murder -THE REAL INDIA WHICH OBAMA FORGOT

[CaptainJackSparrow]

You won't last.

Just mind your own business.

So there are no minority issues in India?

So there are no minority issues in China?

So there are no minority issues in Pakistan?

So there are no minority issues in Sri Lanka?

Holier-Than-Thou

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So there are no minority issues in China?

So there are no minority issues in Pakistan?

So there are no minority issues in Sri Lanka?

Holier-Than-Thou

Straw man argument.

Not ONE single person here, has claimed that China/Pakistan have no minority issues.

 

[Infinite Sapience]

What an interesting attitude.

Why, do yo hold an opinion that American president should be concerned about Indian minorities, Chinese Uighurs or Tibetan populace?

These are matters of concerns for Indian and chinese populace !!

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Not ONE single person here, has claimed that China/Pakistan have no minority issues.

I'll talk about India's minority issues when I get the freedom on PDF to talk about Pakistan and China's minority issues as well and mind you, when I do, and by 'I', I mean Indian members in general, I either get banned and/or the thread gets deleted and/or people say why we are bashing Pakistan.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/suggestions-discussions/81567-anti-pakistani-sentiments.html

I have a simple approach. Either have an all encompassing discussion or have no discussion at all.

I, and I believe I may speak for other Indian members also, am always ready to discuss such issues pertaining to India.

My questions:

1. Are the Pakistanis ready?.
2. Are the Chinese ready?
3. Are the mods ready?

Mind you, if there is a discussion, it will be an ugly one because, quite frankly, not everyone can react to difficult questions with the same poise that , may be, you and I can.

You know, we have a saying in Hindi/Urdu, "Baat Niklegi, toh fir door Tak Jaayegi."

It roughly translates to, "When we discuss, we'll discuss everything."

 

[CardSharp]

See how sensitive they are when it comes to their own minority issues.

 

[Fact_ur_mine]

Straw man argument.

Not ONE single person here, has claimed that China/Pakistan have no minority issues.

Neither ONE single indian has claimed that india doesnt have any minority issue.

Its what you WANTED to digest from desimans post you got, not the true sense he meant.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I'll talk about India's minority issues when I get the freedom on PDF to talk about Pakistan and China's minority issues as well and mind you, when I do, and by 'I', I mean Indian members in general, I either get banned and/or the thread gets deleted and/or people say why we are bashing Pakistan.

Buddy, Indians here are always bashing China over minorities. Jackdaws likes to go with Tibetans, while Ejazr constantly moans about Uyghurs.

For the record, I have never bashed any country over minority issues, you can check my post history.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Its what you WANTED to digest from desimans post you got, not the true sense he meant.

Are you mistaking me for someone else? I didn't even read desimans post, and I certainly did not reply to it.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Buddy, Indians here are always bashing China over minorities. Jackdaws likes to go with Tibetans, while Ejazr constantly moans about Uyghurs.

For the record I have never bashed any country over minority issues, you can check my post history if you don't believe me.

For every Jackdaws (no disrespect meant to him, I don't really even know the guy), you have people like Benny, Bang Galore, Peshwa, Deckingraj etc. are are willing to discuss tough and unsettling questions just like for every challenger and peaceful, we have people like you.

I have to give this much to the Chinese. I have seen many of them willing to discuss the unsettling and unnerving questions without resorting to flaming the topic. I have yet to see that maturity in a substantial number of Pakistani members though.

And, as I previously mentioned, every once in while such questions about Pakistan come up, either the member gets banned and/or the thread is deleted.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

For every Jackdaws (no disrespect meant to him, I don't really even know the guy), you have people like Benny, Bang Galore, Peshwa, Deckingraj etc. are are willing to discuss tough and unsettling questions just like for every challenger and peaceful, we have people like you.

I have to give this much to the Chinese. I have seen many of them willing to discuss the unsettling and unnerving questions without resorting to flaming the topic. I have yet to see that maturity in a substantial number of Pakistani members though.

And, as I previously mentioned, every once in while such questions about Pakistan come up, either the member gets banned and/or the thread is deleted.

You must have been reading this board for a long time if you remember people like challenger (who was a complete sha zi by the way, good riddance to him).

My point is that Chinese members receive no special protection from the moderators, and we get bashed all the time. Even today Jackdaws is going on about Chinese people being "cannibals" in that thread in China defence section.

The constant bashing in this forum gives people a "siege" mentality. Which is perhaps the reason why it's so difficult to discuss sensible issues here...

 

[CardSharp]

For every Jackdaws (no disrespect meant to him, I don't really even know the guy), you have people like Benny, Bang Galore, Peshwa, Deckingraj etc. are are willing to discuss tough and unsettling questions just like for every challenger and peaceful, we have people like you.

I have to give this much to the Chinese. I have seen many of them willing to discuss the unsettling and unnerving questions without resorting to flaming the topic. I have yet to see that maturity in a substantial number of Pakistani members though.

And, as I previously mentioned, every once in while such questions about Pakistan come up, either the member gets banned and/or the thread is deleted.

Yes but people like you test my patience. You don't approach the discussion with any degree of respect so don't expect any in return.

and for your information, Benny is suspended for making comments cheering on religious violence.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

You must have been reading this board for a long time if you remember people like challenger (who was a complete sha zi by the way, good riddance to him).

Yes I've been a lurker for some time now and I know who stands where and at what level.

My point is that Chinese members receive no special protection from the moderators, and we get bashed all the time. Even today Jackdaws is going on about Chinese people being "cannibals" in that thread in China defence section.

And the Chinese members are also not behind you have to agree. So it goes both ways. But same cannot be said about Pakistani members.

The constant bashing in this forum gives people a "siege" mentality. Which is perhaps the reason why it's so difficult to discuss sensible issues here...

Hence the bottomline: Don't discuss such issues at all.

 

[GUNS-N- ROSES]

obama is desperate to bring home jobs to Americans

nothing much else.......Muslims (and Christians for that matter) in india will never be treated equally as hindus --even lower "caste".

my sympathies are with them --as they are with any other Muslim living unfavourably anywhere else

u r wrong my bro. muslims have as much a chance to succeed in india as anyone else. our last prez was a muslim. muslims, sikhs and christians have commanded our armed forces. can u say that for ur country. have any hindu commanded u r armed forces.

muslim population in india has grown comfortably and they r doing well for my themselves. jus like my aunt who is heading HR division of a top indian company. certainly some right wing hindus and some mullahs try to create divide and sometimes they have succeeded but most of the times they have failed.

and another question for u my bro. can u give me a statistics of hindu population in pakistan in 1947 and 2010?

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Yes but people like you test my patience. You don't approach the discussion with any degree of respect so don't expect any in return.

I don't accord any value to having such a discussion when I do not have the freedom to discuss such things about the other side (read Pakistan).

Like I said before, either do not discuss or discuss it all.

and for your information, Benny is suspended for making comments cheering on religious violence.

C'mon man, everyone gets carried away once in a while. Even Chinese Dragon has been suspended once for that matter.

 

[Infinite Sapience]

Yes but people like you test my patience. You don't approach the discussion with any degree of respect so don't expect any in return.

and for your information, Benny is suspended for making comments cheering on religious violence.

One It wasn't religious violence.
two here is another post cheering and hoping violence and death but you are likely to see a very different response.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/82104-wikileaks-plans-release-94-papers-about-pakistan.html#post1295848