Germany's ugly legacy: Is Hitler's racist hatred back?

[livingdead]

Racism was never out in europe, it was hidden.

 

[Henry ME 95]

fascism - definition of fascism in English from the Oxford dictionary


Nazism - definition of Nazism in English from the Oxford dictionary

Yea, very different, as in Nazism being a more specific subset of Fascism....

Of course there is nothing wrong with fascism, if you happen to believe you and your group are superior to others in your society, that you and your group deserve to rule the nation (even as a minorty), that you and your group have the right to enforce strict compliance with the ideas of your group's leader, that you are willing to submit as an individual to an all-knowing leader, and that the masses are mindless and sugggestable herds that can be steered with propaganda. Then, if you believ that, naturally, there is nothing with fascism.

it's called national SOCIALISM not national FASCISM. in reality this dictionary doesn't quite offer a correct definition. but if you don't believe me you can ask most Italians that lived under Mussolini. you have also most likely not read Mussolini's doctrine, mein kampf or any other "fascist" work thus you don't have any right to comment against someone that has read both works. fascism cant even be called "conservative" due to the fact that according to Mussolini "a fascist rejects conservatism in it's form because change must happen to tradition. " there were Jews in the national fascist party and Muslims also. so again your little oxford liberal definition is not matching up

You have to be kidding me. I have to emphasize how absolutely evil fascism is because apparently in high school this isn't taught enough.

Fascism is directly opposed to both democractic capitalism and socialism. it rejects both equality of birth (democracy) and equality of opportunity (socialism). It in fact rejects "liberty, equality, fraternity" - the basic tenements of democracy established in the French Revolution that almost all modern states, at least in theory, adhere to. It rejects as wrong the premises of human rights and individual choice. Note that almost all modern countries share at least a nominal respect for democracy, equality and individual choice.

"equal opportunity of socialism" what a laugh. no offense because i love the Chinese nation. but your schools haven't taught you right. i don't get information from some state mouthpiece. i get it from reading primary sources, not a collection of opinions like a textbook. and if you knew anything about the french revolution you wouldn't support it. it literally ruined france.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Racism was never out in europe, it was hidden.

And In India it is not even hidden, its open for everyone to see.

 

[livingdead]

And In India it is not even hidden, its open for everyone to see.

I agree.

 

[Penguin]

it's called national SOCIALISM not national FASCISM. in reality this dictionary doesn't quite offer a correct definition. but if you don't believe me you can ask most Italians that lived under Mussolini. you have also most likely not read Mussolini's doctrine, mein kampf or any other "fascist" work thus you don't have any right to comment against someone that has read both works. fascism cant even be called "conservative" due to the fact that according to Mussolini "a fascist rejects conservatism in it's form because change must happen to tradition. " there were Jews in the national fascist party and Muslims also. so again your little oxford liberal definition is not matching up

The Nazi Party was founded as the Pan-German nationalist and antisemitic German Workers' Party on 5 January 1919. By the early 1920s, Adolf Hitler assumed control of the organization and renamed it the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, NSDAP) to broaden its appeal.

The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism", as an alternative to both internationalist Marxist socialism and free market capitalism. The Nazis sought to achieve this by a "people's community" (Volksgemeinschaft) with the aim of uniting all Germans as national comrades, whilst excluding those deemed either to be community aliens or "foreign peoples" (Fremdvölkische). It rejected the Marxist concept of class struggle, opposed ideas of class equality and international solidarity, and sought to defend private property and businesses.

Clearly, if you look at NSDAP membership, it ceased to be a workers party very quickly. In reality, NSDAP is as far from socialist ideals as north and south pole.

As for your assumptions about what I have or have not read, they are just that: assumptions.

 

[The Sandman]

 

[gslv mk3]

There was a thread here about a 'Muslim being stabbed to death in some town of Germany' People went bonkers on that thread calling Germans all sorts of names, but when it turned out that the guy who died was killed by his own roommate who happens to be a Muslim all went quite.

They need something thing to push their 'islamophobia' myth.Remember the infamous case of Shaima Alawadi ?

 

[Henry ME 95]

The Nazi Party was founded as the Pan-German nationalist and antisemitic German Workers' Party on 5 January 1919. By the early 1920s, Adolf Hitler assumed control of the organization and renamed it the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, NSDAP) to broaden its appeal.

The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism", as an alternative to both internationalist Marxist socialism and free market capitalism. The Nazis sought to achieve this by a "people's community" (Volksgemeinschaft) with the aim of uniting all Germans as national comrades, whilst excluding those deemed either to be community aliens or "foreign peoples" (Fremdvölkische). It rejected the Marxist concept of class struggle, opposed ideas of class equality and international solidarity, and sought to defend private property and businesses.

Clearly, if you look at NSDAP membership, it ceased to be a workers party very quickly. In reality, NSDAP is as far from socialist ideals as north and south pole.

As for your assumptions about what I have or have not read, they are just that: assumptions.

have you? because it is a very safe assumption.
however the same argument is used by left wing socialists to disown both communist china and the USSR. "it wasn't real socialism"
however this was socialism without any doubt. and even a socialist society has classes. as seen from the 1930s USSR.
The Nazi party, a left-wing liberal movement | itsnobody this will also address the assumption that hitler protected "private property rights" he didn't and many nationalizations happened in NS Germany

 

[Koovie]

Hitler declared Turks as a race above slavic russian, greek and Serbian, Armenian subhumans.

And therefore morons like you will start worshiping a psycho

 

[AViet]

lol, EU is the biggest economy in the world slightly ahead of the USA and then the rest by quite a margin, almost double China. You really never know what your on about do you.

The whole of Europe (west and east, Russia included) economy 2014 is roughly double China. In 2015, it is highly possible that EU economy is smaller than 1.5 times of China.

China's real economy (in nominal term) can be equal to whole of Europe if they appreciate their currency. It is only the calculating method.

Their markets already surpassed that of Europe (and in some areas, Europe and the US combined) long time ago.

Nominal GDP is just for reference, not an important indicator nowadays.

 

[sankranti]

As you sow so you reap. Implementation of middle eastern ideology can backfire in Germany.

What do you mean by that ?

And In India it is not even hidden, its open for everyone to see.

Did they treat you badly in India ?