germany delivers new high tech submarine to Israel...and Iran pays for it

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How indonesian do i look?

And how can i be indonesian when my mother is italian and my father german?

For the love of the Lord, remove that photo dude,
I almost vomited on my laptop.

 

[The SiLent crY]

Reading these news makes me think why Iran isn't allowed to have nukes .


We need another Ahmadinejad to do this favor to Iran and end west's nonsense forever .

 

[MarkusS]

no article mentions that .

its a brain fart from markus . if iran was a share holder , and the owners wanted to sell the company or do any shyte , they should have paid iran first .

although the money is freezed , its goddamn freezed !! its not gone !!

@MarkusS , go to rehab and let go of weed .

eat the grass , dont smoke it . lol

The stocks ar not freezed. They got sold and the money into property of Thyssen Krupp. We are not talking about bank accounts here.

 

[haman10]

Reading these news makes me think why Iran isn't allowed to have nukes .


We need another Ahmadinejad to do this favor to Iran and end west's nonsense forever .

brother , its another brain fart from markus . its not real

read the article and translate it to english . everything will be clear then .

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Berlin - Sigmar Gabriel is like the man of clear words. He put great emphasis on "the transparency to increase significantly in arms exports," asserts the Minister of Economy. Therefore, now you inform the Bundestag "immediately" over the decisions of the secret, which meets Federal Security Council. The message: We keep our promises of secrecy is finally over.

Gabriel's dulcet phrases were given on July 10, to read selected members of the Bundestag. In a letter to the Minister informed about the recent votes in the Security Council. Three arms exports is therefore beckoned by: Egypt gets spare parts for 30 "Sea King" helicopter, Colombia gets kits for the modernization of two submarines, and Israel equal to a whole new submarine.
At first glance, this new openness seems remarkable. While the federal government used to be only once a year, announced the details of arms exports, the economy minister's decisions shall suddenly already open, shortly after they were made. That he also touched with the green light for Israel to export still one of the most delicate German armament deals any, does more than bold, first, anyway.

Nevertheless, Gabriel's writing a nice example that there is such a thing with his transparency promise. At second glance it became clear that the really interesting details of the submarine deals are to remain secret.Based on the business with the Israelis can be rather good illustration of how much the government itself stands in the way of openness offensive.

Submarine deal with Israel were already always a delicate matter. Again and again sold Berlin in recent decades highly subsidized submarines to Israel, six pieces were last approved. Because all guessed that the Navy's German submarines modified so that they can carry nuclear weapons, there were always concerns. At the end of the trade-offs but always outweighed the special historical responsibility for Israel's security.

Federal government takes over a large portion of the construction costs

This responsibility was Germany worth something. In the previous Deals you were always come to meet the Israelis in the price far, in fact it took over a large part of the construction costs for the "Dolphins", the last three models cost at least a round billion euros.

Enough reasons for asking whether it is a new business in the deal now made public or to a partial delivery of already approved in principle six dive boats. So research. The Ministry of Economy? Will not say anything publicly. The parliamentarians? Also know nothing, they have only received the letter Gabriel scarce, so puzzle itself

Only extensive phone calls throughout the government found hours later a reasonably robust conclusion: if it were well to one of the already approved submarines, they say. But that does not know you that well, could you confirm that a fortiori. A little later it turns out that the green light from the house of Gabriel is really just the final export permit for an already spilled from the stack in Kiel submarine, which will soon go to Haifa.

A little discretion can be understood in the deal. The fact that the Israelis do not necessarily want to read the model number and technical plans of their submarines in the press, is the face of the enemy that they have in the Middle East, understandable.But to disclose whether it is a new or old business at the proposed export would have to actually be in the interest of Gabriel. For the more information, the less speculation.
From the opposition comes in view of the scant notice sharp criticism."The promise of a new transparency turns out to be total as fairy tale and misleading," said the green defense expert Agnieszka Brugger, "still in informing the Parliament but missing essential information."

Gabriel calls the upgrade opponent a "supposed angel of peace", the show with the current permits its true face. That may be a bit thick applied. But it remains, to put it mildly, a bit of work for the Vice Chancellor to convince Parliament and the public of his transparency promise.

@Aeronaut , which part of the article mentions iran ?

can u pls close this troll thread ?

The stocks ar not freezed. They got sold and the money into property of Thyssen Krupp. We are not talking about bank accounts here.

you're talking shyte and u know it .

no country has the power nor the right to just give another country's property to a third party .

whats your source ?

@Oscar . ban this DB already

 

[MarkusS]

For the love of the Lord, remove that photo dude,
I almost vomited on my laptop.

You must be sensible because the look of your mother then. Normally people don't vomit when they see other,people.

 

[haman10]

You must be sensible because the look of your mother then

where are the mods ?

@Oscar

Normally people don't vomit when they see other,people.

thats a key word , i underlined it for u .

 

[MarkusS]

brother , its another brain fart from markus . its not real

read the article and translate it to english . everything will be clear then .

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Berlin - Sigmar Gabriel is like the man of clear words. He put great emphasis on "the transparency to increase significantly in arms exports," asserts the Minister of Economy. Therefore, now you inform the Bundestag "immediately" over the decisions of the secret, which meets Federal Security Council. The message: We keep our promises of secrecy is finally over.

Gabriel's dulcet phrases were given on July 10, to read selected members of the Bundestag. In a letter to the Minister informed about the recent votes in the Security Council. Three arms exports is therefore beckoned by: Egypt gets spare parts for 30 "Sea King" helicopter, Colombia gets kits for the modernization of two submarines, and Israel equal to a whole new submarine.
At first glance, this new openness seems remarkable. While the federal government used to be only once a year, announced the details of arms exports, the economy minister's decisions shall suddenly already open, shortly after they were made. That he also touched with the green light for Israel to export still one of the most delicate German armament deals any, does more than bold, first, anyway.

Nevertheless, Gabriel's writing a nice example that there is such a thing with his transparency promise. At second glance it became clear that the really interesting details of the submarine deals are to remain secret.Based on the business with the Israelis can be rather good illustration of how much the government itself stands in the way of openness offensive.

Submarine deal with Israel were already always a delicate matter. Again and again sold Berlin in recent decades highly subsidized submarines to Israel, six pieces were last approved. Because all guessed that the Navy's German submarines modified so that they can carry nuclear weapons, there were always concerns. At the end of the trade-offs but always outweighed the special historical responsibility for Israel's security.

Federal government takes over a large portion of the construction costs

This responsibility was Germany worth something. In the previous Deals you were always come to meet the Israelis in the price far, in fact it took over a large part of the construction costs for the "Dolphins", the last three models cost at least a round billion euros.

Enough reasons for asking whether it is a new business in the deal now made public or to a partial delivery of already approved in principle six dive boats. So research. The Ministry of Economy? Will not say anything publicly. The parliamentarians? Also know nothing, they have only received the letter Gabriel scarce, so puzzle itself

Only extensive phone calls throughout the government found hours later a reasonably robust conclusion: if it were well to one of the already approved submarines, they say. But that does not know you that well, could you confirm that a fortiori. A little later it turns out that the green light from the house of Gabriel is really just the final export permit for an already spilled from the stack in Kiel submarine, which will soon go to Haifa.

A little discretion can be understood in the deal. The fact that the Israelis do not necessarily want to read the model number and technical plans of their submarines in the press, is the face of the enemy that they have in the Middle East, understandable.But to disclose whether it is a new or old business at the proposed export would have to actually be in the interest of Gabriel. For the more information, the less speculation.
From the opposition comes in view of the scant notice sharp criticism."The promise of a new transparency turns out to be total as fairy tale and misleading," said the green defense expert Agnieszka Brugger, "still in informing the Parliament but missing essential information."

Gabriel calls the upgrade opponent a "supposed angel of peace", the show with the current permits its true face. That may be a bit thick applied. But it remains, to put it mildly, a bit of work for the Vice Chancellor to convince Parliament and the public of his transparency promise.

@Aeronaut , which part of the article mentions iran ?

can u pls close this troll thread ?


you're talking shyte and u know it .

no country has the power nor the right to just give another country's property to a third party .

whats your source ?

@Oscar . ban this DB already

here is a link.

Stahl: ThyssenKrupp will Iran-Bande vollständig lösen - Unternehmen - Wirtschaftswoche

beside that Iran has no rights in germany. I dont see any reason why iran should be able to hold any property in our country.

 

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You must be sensible because the look of your mother then. Normally people don't vomit when they see other,people

Don't be impolite, reported.

Normally people don't vomit when they see other,people.

Normally, that's true.

 

[The SiLent crY]

brother , its another brain fart from markus . its not real

read the article and translate it to english . everything will be clear then .

==================================

Berlin - Sigmar Gabriel is like the man of clear words. He put great emphasis on "the transparency to increase significantly in arms exports," asserts the Minister of Economy. Therefore, now you inform the Bundestag "immediately" over the decisions of the secret, which meets Federal Security Council. The message: We keep our promises of secrecy is finally over.

Gabriel's dulcet phrases were given on July 10, to read selected members of the Bundestag. In a letter to the Minister informed about the recent votes in the Security Council. Three arms exports is therefore beckoned by: Egypt gets spare parts for 30 "Sea King" helicopter, Colombia gets kits for the modernization of two submarines, and Israel equal to a whole new submarine.
At first glance, this new openness seems remarkable. While the federal government used to be only once a year, announced the details of arms exports, the economy minister's decisions shall suddenly already open, shortly after they were made. That he also touched with the green light for Israel to export still one of the most delicate German armament deals any, does more than bold, first, anyway.

Nevertheless, Gabriel's writing a nice example that there is such a thing with his transparency promise. At second glance it became clear that the really interesting details of the submarine deals are to remain secret.Based on the business with the Israelis can be rather good illustration of how much the government itself stands in the way of openness offensive.

Submarine deal with Israel were already always a delicate matter. Again and again sold Berlin in recent decades highly subsidized submarines to Israel, six pieces were last approved. Because all guessed that the Navy's German submarines modified so that they can carry nuclear weapons, there were always concerns. At the end of the trade-offs but always outweighed the special historical responsibility for Israel's security.

Federal government takes over a large portion of the construction costs

This responsibility was Germany worth something. In the previous Deals you were always come to meet the Israelis in the price far, in fact it took over a large part of the construction costs for the "Dolphins", the last three models cost at least a round billion euros.

Enough reasons for asking whether it is a new business in the deal now made public or to a partial delivery of already approved in principle six dive boats. So research. The Ministry of Economy? Will not say anything publicly. The parliamentarians? Also know nothing, they have only received the letter Gabriel scarce, so puzzle itself

Only extensive phone calls throughout the government found hours later a reasonably robust conclusion: if it were well to one of the already approved submarines, they say. But that does not know you that well, could you confirm that a fortiori. A little later it turns out that the green light from the house of Gabriel is really just the final export permit for an already spilled from the stack in Kiel submarine, which will soon go to Haifa.

A little discretion can be understood in the deal. The fact that the Israelis do not necessarily want to read the model number and technical plans of their submarines in the press, is the face of the enemy that they have in the Middle East, understandable.But to disclose whether it is a new or old business at the proposed export would have to actually be in the interest of Gabriel. For the more information, the less speculation.
From the opposition comes in view of the scant notice sharp criticism."The promise of a new transparency turns out to be total as fairy tale and misleading," said the green defense expert Agnieszka Brugger, "still in informing the Parliament but missing essential information."

Gabriel calls the upgrade opponent a "supposed angel of peace", the show with the current permits its true face. That may be a bit thick applied. But it remains, to put it mildly, a bit of work for the Vice Chancellor to convince Parliament and the public of his transparency promise.

@Aeronaut , which part of the article mentions iran ?

can u pls close this troll thread ?


you're talking shyte and u know it .

no country has the power nor the right to just give another country's property to a third party .

whats your source ?

@Oscar . ban this DB already

My point was not about these subs but the reality that Israel has more than 100 nukes and threatens Iran whenever it wants .

If we want to see the future then you see the need to the nukes in order to be away from danger .

Once Iran has the nukes no one will dare to attack Iran or even threaten it and that's when we can make our rules in the world .

 

[MarkusS]

My point was not about these subs but the reality that Israel has more than 100 nukes and threatens Iran whenever it wants .

If we want to see the future then you see the need to the nukes in order to be away from danger .

Once Iran has the nukes no one will dare to attack Iran or even threaten it and that's when we can make our rules in the world .

what rules? shariah dictatorship?

 

[haman10]

here is a link.

thats a 2010 germen article from an unknown site .

the funny thing is , it never uses the words israel and dolphin .

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The U.S. is looking to further distance companies that do business with the "axis of evil" business. One reason for Thyssen Krupp not to mess with the great power.

In the U.S. state of Alabama, ThyssenKrupp has just built two new steel plants, the company plans to come up with the American auto and engineering industry into the business, which should buy body sheets and steel parts of the Germans. As Iran does not fit into the concept as a business partner of ThyssenKrupp board members. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the White House a thorn in the U.S. establishment will dry up the global business with Iran.


ThyssenKrupp and Siemens are the two German companies to maintain the still lively business contacts in Iran - not because they are so much like the Mahmud Regme, but because since time immemorial good cultural and business contacts in Iran, formerly Persia are. The Iranian business world is German and pro-French, located on the historical experience that have made the country with the occurring in the colonial British and the Americans always triumphant. The good German-Iranian relations are independent of the occupation of the head of state, whether the Shah, Ayatollah Khomeini or the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ruled there.

Travel agency ensures trouble
However, the deal with Iran is now dangerous for a company like ThyssenKrupp.Because Americans no longer differentiate according to technological relations at the technical level or high-level business contacts that could give Iran a stage. The White House expects Ahamadineschad can build a nuclear bomb in a year, any business relationship that smells of technology transfer - be it ever so trivial - should be stopped now, otherwise threatens the respective company's off with the business relationships in the United States. The U.S. administration puts pressure on U.S. companies with iran close business partners to maintain no more relationships.

Iran once held 25 percent of Krupp, a shah's emissary was a member of the Supervisory Board, later a Khomeini-follower. It has always been also supported by the part of Iran in the merged company ThyssenKrupp emphasizes economic sheep-oriented and non-ideological strategies. The Iranian side in the Supervisory Board had used particularly positive for the merger of Thyssen and Krupp, which you could not tell by the former State Chancellery in Dusseldorf. More surprised Iran representatives served on the board when he had to share the outlawed by the U.S. government to sell and vacate his seat in the supervisory board.

Well asserts ThyssenKrupp CEO Ekkehard Schulz that no new transactions with Iran - will give more - on which factual level whatsoever. Such contacts are there between engineering companies of the ThyssenKrupp Polysisus based in the East Westphalian Neubeckum from where the cement business is coordinated. Cement production technology in Iran? Also, it no longer can, does not want to upset anyone with the political class in the U.S., the district consolidated with its steel interests.

That leaves a trace element that ThyssenKrupp partout is not happening. The travel agency Dr. Tigges in Essen with a double-digit million turnover and 105 employees among 24 percent of the Iranian state - from the old days. 76 percent part of ThyssenKrupp, the Kruppianer are intensively for weeks find for the package a buyer who wants to get at a decent price in the package of Iran. But that does not succeed, the 76 percent of ThyssenKrupp are not for sale. The Steel Group conducts most of its business with this travel agency that could provide more for sensitivities with the U.S. immigration authorities.

The directors want to shake off the travel agency as soon as possible . It would be a shame if GM not ordered in Alabama, just because Ekkhard Schulz has booked his trip to Washington and Detroit on Dr. Tigges.

 

[MarkusS]

thats a 2010 germen article from an unknown site .

the funny thing is , it never uses the words israel and dolphin .

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The U.S. is looking to further distance companies that do business with the "axis of evil" business. One reason for Thyssen Krupp not to mess with the great power.

In the U.S. state of Alabama, ThyssenKrupp has just built two new steel plants, the company plans to come up with the American auto and engineering industry into the business, which should buy body sheets and steel parts of the Germans. As Iran does not fit into the concept as a business partner of ThyssenKrupp board members. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the White House a thorn in the U.S. establishment will dry up the global business with Iran.


ThyssenKrupp and Siemens are the two German companies to maintain the still lively business contacts in Iran - not because they are so much like the Mahmud Regme, but because since time immemorial good cultural and business contacts in Iran, formerly Persia are. The Iranian business world is German and pro-French, located on the historical experience that have made the country with the occurring in the colonial British and the Americans always triumphant. The good German-Iranian relations are independent of the occupation of the head of state, whether the Shah, Ayatollah Khomeini or the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ruled there.

Travel agency ensures trouble
However, the deal with Iran is now dangerous for a company like ThyssenKrupp.Because Americans no longer differentiate according to technological relations at the technical level or high-level business contacts that could give Iran a stage. The White House expects Ahamadineschad can build a nuclear bomb in a year, any business relationship that smells of technology transfer - be it ever so trivial - should be stopped now, otherwise threatens the respective company's off with the business relationships in the United States. The U.S. administration puts pressure on U.S. companies with iran close business partners to maintain no more relationships.

Iran once held 25 percent of Krupp, a shah's emissary was a member of the Supervisory Board, later a Khomeini-follower. It has always been also supported by the part of Iran in the merged company ThyssenKrupp emphasizes economic sheep-oriented and non-ideological strategies. The Iranian side in the Supervisory Board had used particularly positive for the merger of Thyssen and Krupp, which you could not tell by the former State Chancellery in Dusseldorf. More surprised Iran representatives served on the board when he had to share the outlawed by the U.S. government to sell and vacate his seat in the supervisory board.

Well asserts ThyssenKrupp CEO Ekkehard Schulz that no new transactions with Iran - will give more - on which factual level whatsoever. Such contacts are there between engineering companies of the ThyssenKrupp Polysisus based in the East Westphalian Neubeckum from where the cement business is coordinated. Cement production technology in Iran? Also, it no longer can, does not want to upset anyone with the political class in the U.S., the district consolidated with its steel interests.

That leaves a trace element that ThyssenKrupp partout is not happening. The travel agency Dr. Tigges in Essen with a double-digit million turnover and 105 employees among 24 percent of the Iranian state - from the old days. 76 percent part of ThyssenKrupp, the Kruppianer are intensively for weeks find for the package a buyer who wants to get at a decent price in the package of Iran. But that does not succeed, the 76 percent of ThyssenKrupp are not for sale. The Steel Group conducts most of its business with this travel agency that could provide more for sensitivities with the U.S. immigration authorities.

The directors want to shake off the travel agency as soon as possible . It would be a shame if GM not ordered in Alabama, just because Ekkhard Schulz has booked his trip to Washington and Detroit on Dr. Tigges.

Its about thyssen krupp. the manufacturer of the dolphin submarine.

 

[haman10]

Its about thyssen krupp. the manufacturer of the dolphin submarine.

dont u fvking walk on my nerves .

the article does NOT
say that iranian money was used to buy the dolphins .
understood ? idiot ?

 

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dont u fvking walk on my nerves .
the article does NOT
say that iranian money was used to by the dolphins .
understood ? idiot ?

With the look on his face, I would say no man.

 

[MarkusS]

u r high .

come back when u completed ur rehab program .

peace


dont u fvking walk on my nerves .

the article does NOT
say that iranian money was used to buy the dolphins .
understood ? idiot ?

why getting personal with insults? A blog i did read mentioned that iran hold 4.5% which was freezed so basicly it is used for this. You dont expect to get ot back right? Dont get personal because you dont like my opinion.