German call for headscraves ban is a perfect example of the contradictions inherent to secularism.

[EgyptianAmerican]

we dont have the same god. ours is not like yours. I dont want discuss this.

To go by your traffic case, if a muslim crashs in my car and we are infront court, she will always give the muslim right. Her scarf shows that she is not neutral. Its a symbol she openly shows and i would fear to be treated not fair.

Quran says you must conquer us, fight us, terrorize us, we must submit and pay ransom or get killed. thats what i learned about it.

We do have the the same god just different interpretations.

No if a muslim hits your car while you are parking does not mean she gets away scot free idiot. The Judge is meant to be impartial and they can do that but no judge is truly unbiased, if you were the judge then the women could remove you on the basis that you think she is the hostile.

The Quran says nothing about conquering, whoever told you that is just flat out lying, we can't terrorize, please tell me your fucking kidding me? pay ransom? dude cut the bullshit.

Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

Jesus see what you did, I sound like a bloody imam.

Shut up there is no verse which says conquer us mate

How did a christian brit get in Yemen?

 

[MarkusS]

We do have the the same god just different interpretations.

No if a muslim hits your car while you are parking does not mean she gets away scot free idiot. The Judge is meant to be impartial and they can do that but no judge is truly unbiased, if you were the judge then the women could remove you on the basis that you think she is the hostile.

The Quran says nothing about conquering, whoever told you that is just flat out lying, we can't terrorize, please tell me your fucking kidding me? pay ransom? dude cut the bullshit.

Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

Jesus see what you did, I sound like a bloody imam.



How did a christian brit get in Yemen?

i trust my teacher, she did read other verses and those were really cruel. also you get very agressive and insulting with me. I say what i feel with my heart. What i got teached. Im not idiot. when younuse personal insult you close all doors.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

i trust my teacher, she did read other verses and those were really cruel. also you get very agressive and insulting with me. I say what i feel with my heart. What i got teached. Im not idiot. when younuse personal insult you close all doors.

Your teacher is a lying sack of shit, what verses? Why is your teacher teaching a class about Islam? does she have any credentials or did she just read of bullshit sites like "religion of peace"

Why do you think i'm aggressive with you? You are the most inhuman disgusting thing on planet earth.

Doesn't want people coming to Italy because its the national property of Italians but Egyptians can't have their artifacts even though it's their national property.

Calls for lethal force on defenseless women and children and forces old men and children to work for no pay in fields like the Nazis with their death camps. Yet when Italy experiences a earthquakes expects sympathy.

Openly defends hitler and his laws.

Openly says he is apart of a racist political faction and pretends he is free of all guilt

Gladly cheers on Mafias killing migrants and refugees despite them completely trashing your country

I give you proof of verses and their locations and acts like I'm a liar

Goes on a Muslim defense forum and hates muslims

Cries when Italy experiences a earthquake but openly calls for the killing of Syrian refugees

Complete idiot when it comes to history of civilization

complete bigot when it comes to Islam

Complete and utter douchebag

Acts like he is the center of the universe when he is some airlines lackey and some stupid model

and the list goes on and on, do not act like the victim.

Your teacher is an idiot, a liar, and possibly one of the crappiest human beings on planet earth.
The fact that you deny evidence that is shown and act like you are the one with facts?

You know denial isn't just a river in Egypt

 

[karakoram]

i trust my teacher, she did read other verses and those were really cruel. also you get very agressive and insulting with me. I say what i feel with my heart. What i got teached. Im not idiot. when younuse personal insult you close all doors.

Do provide us those versus which your teacher was teaching you which are cruel or anti Christian? There is no such verse in Quran.

 

[Pandora]

How is the headscarf a political symbol? which political party is she supporting? exactly nothing she is just practicing her faith unless christianity is unable to comprehend freedom of religion.

A lawyer cannot question a judges authority, that is why they are called your "honor" they have been proven to be just upholders of the law.

Great this Taqiyya bullshit again, the verse have the location listed in them, go look it up if you doubt it.

Do you know what is the purpose of Taqiyya? You do know it is supposed to be used for the protection of life right? I am not scared of some pathetic Italian who cries whenever some earthquake happens but when fleeing women are children are getting repeatedly carpet bombed they deserve "lethal" force.

How is not wearing a hat indoor a sign of a "civilized" nation? American schools to my knowledge never do this, so where are you getting this from? Did Galileo wear a hat inside a school and the church banned it? Please tell me how is it civilized to not wear a hat in school.

I would not boast of being a "christian" nation especially considering your "christian" nation's history.

Dont argue with this moron as his world starts from his face to his royal arse hole. He is a dumb retard who is racist to core.

 

[Nilgiri]

@waz @WebMaster @Oscar @Irfan Baloch @WAJsal

Look at the blatant use of negative rating by one of your TTA's yet again.

Where have any of the posts rated negative in this thread broken a forum rule?

 

[MarkusS]

Your teacher is a lying sack of shit, what verses? Why is your teacher teaching a class about Islam? does she have any credentials or did she just read of bullshit sites like "religion of peace"

Why do you think i'm aggressive with you? You are the most inhuman disgusting thing on planet earth.

Doesn't want people coming to Italy because its the national property of Italians but Egyptians can't have their artifacts even though it's their national property.

Calls for lethal force on defenseless women and children and forces old men and children to work for no pay in fields like the Nazis with their death camps. Yet when Italy experiences a earthquakes expects sympathy.

Openly defends hitler and his laws.

Openly says he is apart of a racist political faction and pretends he is free of all guilt

Gladly cheers on Mafias killing migrants and refugees despite them completely trashing your country

I give you proof of verses and their locations and acts like I'm a liar

Goes on a Muslim defense forum and hates muslims

Cries when Italy experiences a earthquake but openly calls for the killing of Syrian refugees

Complete idiot when it comes to history of civilization

complete bigot when it comes to Islam

Complete and utter douchebag

Acts like he is the center of the universe when he is some airlines lackey and some stupid model

and the list goes on and on, do not act like the victim.

Your teacher is an idiot, a liar, and possibly one of the crappiest human beings on planet earth.
The fact that you deny evidence that is shown and act like you are the one with facts?

You know denial isn't just a river in Egypt

As i said you are really insulting you should stop that because it denies you any credibility.

I dont support hitler. Why would you say that? I'm patriot and support a party that is patriotic and for italian interests.

My teacher is qualified by the education ministry of italy. We also,learned about buddhism and hinduism.

I never called for killing of syrians. I said camps must be build in syria and they must be helped there.

As i said before, dont be so agressive.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

As i said you are really insulting you should stop that because it denies you any credibility.

I dont support hitler. Why would you say that? I'm patriot and support a party that is patriotic and for italian interests.

My teacher is qualified by the education ministry of italy. We also,learned about buddhism and hinduism.

I never called for killing of syrians. I said camps must be build in syria and they must be helped there.

As i said before, dont be so agressive.

Your teacher is a lying sack of shit who has no experience with Islam therefore they shouldn't be teaching anyone about Islam, I don't care if they taught buddhism and hinduism they shouldn't be copying off bullshit islamphobic sites, where is this school?

Really? lying again?

i dont care for them. I dont care what they saw in syria. I care for my people. If it means to block those out, so be it. I would also be ok with lethal force if needed. How does their existence have any influence on our life? They would kill us if tables would be turned. I care for my own people and nothing else.

We are not responsible for syria. They are a threat and must be treated like on. Why so sad? You are angry that we fight of people who want parasite on our country?

spare me that bullshit. We have no obligation to help those who are our enemies. they are terrorists, qualified for nothing. lazy and dont work. We hold them out and the ones who make it here are kept in isolated prison camps or forced labor on the fields

And if it means to put those "refugees" under inhumane conditions so be it. If it means to use lethal force to defend our nation, so be it. All meassures taken, no matter how extreme, must serve the people of italy.

We do put them in camps:

They are forced to work on the fields without payment:

Nobody invited them to italy. We make it as hard as possible for them to get here. The ones who make it can serve our nation as cost free workers as long they stay in the camps. That way they pay us back that we keep them. They are safe in those camps. Thats all what matters.

FOCUS ON ALL THE TIMES YOU CALL FOR LETHAL FORCE.

 

[MarkusS]

Your teacher is a lying sack of shit who has no experience with Islam therefore they shouldn't be teaching anyone about Islam, I don't care if they taught buddhism and hinduism they shouldn't be copying off bullshit islamphobic sites, where is this school?

Really? lying again?










FOCUS ON ALL THE TIMES YOU CALL FOR LETHAL FORCE.

i never lie. I'm christian, It is a sin to lie my friend.

1. she teached about religion and quoted verses. Dont insult her you dont know her.

2. No i dont call for lethal force. I defend my nation against criminals and terrorists. Most who try to come to italy are northern africans. We cant house the world in italy. We must protect our borders. We must keep anyone out who enters illegal. The camps are good because it protects italian civilians from them. We pay their food, so its ok they work.

and if they try to break our border it is ok to defend border. If they get violent we have the right to use lethal force.

all in all i would advice you to be more nice, less insulting.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

i never lie. I'm christian, It is a sin to lie my friend.

1. she teached about religion and quoted verses. Dont insult her you dont know her.

2. No i dont call for lethal force. I defend my nation against criminals and terrorists. Most who try to come to italy are northern africans. We cant house the world in italy. We must protect our borders. We must keep anyone out who enters illegal. The camps are good because it protects italian civilians from them. We pay their food, so its ok they work.

and if they try to break our border it is ok to defend border. If they get violent we have the right to use lethal force.

all in all i would advice you to be more nice, less insulting.

You do lie quite a lot don't you? In fact it seems the only thing coming out of your mouth is either bullshit or lies.


1. She didn't know anything about the religion and never should have quoted any verses at all. In fact I know her type better then you do, she is a bigot and a lying sack of shit. All in All I consider your story to be bullshit especially considering this

My teacher is qualified by the education ministry of italy. We also,learned about buddhism and hinduism.

despite buddhism and hinduism only being recognized in 2012 by the Italian parliament which is longggg after you went to school right? Please explain this error.

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/blogs-...cognition-to-hinduism-and-buddhism/12581.html

2.You literally call for unprovoked lethal force in all the Quotes dude, don't deny it when the evidence is right there.

Don't act like the victim none of them are invading your atrocious country,pretty sure they would rather drown themselves then live in the terrible leech mode off the germans.

Lets be honest here, Italy,Spain, and Greece are just the welfare states of the EU so don't go complaining about migrants when you let them in and don't complain about them not doing their dues especially considering all of you leech off France and Germany.

 

[MarkusS]

You do lie quite a lot don't you? In fact it seems the only thing coming out of your mouth is either bullshit or lies.


1. She didn't know anything about the religion and never should have quoted any verses at all. In fact I know her type better then you do, she is a bigot and a lying sack of shit. All in All I consider your story to be bullshit especially considering this



despite buddhism and hinduism only being recognized in 2012 by the Italian parliament which is longggg after you went to school right? Please explain this error.

http://www.hinduismtoday.com/blogs-...cognition-to-hinduism-and-buddhism/12581.html

2.You literally call for unprovoked lethal force in all the Quotes dude, don't deny it when the evidence is right there.

Don't act like the victim none of them are invading your atrocious country,pretty sure they would rather drown themselves then live in the terrible leech mode off the germans.

Lets be honest here, Italy,Spain, and Greece are just the welfare states of the EU so don't go complaining about migrants when you let them in and don't complain about them not doing their dues especially considering all of you leech off France and Germany.

You have no clue what you talk about. Recognition has nothing to do with talking about it at school. We even talked about Scientology, Jehova Witnesses.

She quoted hatefull passages in islam. Thats her god given right. The pope did this as well. Papa Benedetto was highly critical about Islam and you may know his speech he gave in Regensburg where he said very negative remarks about it.

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_Benedetto_XVI#La_lezione_di_Ratisbona_del_2006

The thing is, you come from a closed society. You dont know what it is like to get a humanistic education. In egypt you have a horrible education system. So why you claim things you have no clue about?

We talked like 4 school lessons about Hinduism. We talked the same about Buddhism and learned the basic principals about it. Same about Islam, Mormons, Judaism and so on.

Also you seem to lack basic english skills. Nowhere do i say i want unprovoked lethal force. People who try to destroy our borders, threaten our security are acting criminal and deserve the full spectrum of our forces. If lethal force is necessary so be it.

@waz can you please clean his posts from the personal insults. He runs hot recently on personal insults. I think its high time for him to get a short ban to cool down

 

[livingdead]

@Luffy 500 .. headscarf ban has got nothing to do with secularism, its a reflection of our time, people are increasingly fearful of symbols they associate with terrorism. Banning headscarf is against secular values if anything.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

You have no clue what you talk about. Recognition has nothing to do with talking about it at school. We even talked about Scientology, Jehova Witnesses.

She quoted hatefull passages in islam. Thats her god given right. The pope did this as well.

The thing is, you come from a closed society. You dont know what it is like to get a humanistic education. In egypt you have a horrible education system. So why you claim things you have no clue about?

We talked like 4 school lessons about Hinduism. We talked the same about Buddhism and learned the basic principals about it. Same about Islam, Mormons, Judaism and so on.

@waz can you please clean his posts from the personal insults. He runs hot recently on personal insults. I think its high time for him to get a short ban to cool down

She quoted Misinformed sites, Where in the Quran does it say we have to ransom anybody? Let alone Christians? I gave you proof, your teacher was wrong unless you would like to provide these so called "verses" there is a difference between freedom of speech and spreading of lies and hatred.

Do you honestly expect me to read Italian? Who cares about the pope, the current one is quite respectful of Islam, I suggest you follow in his footsteps and not the one who knew absolutely nothing of Islam, your pope is an expert on christianity not Islam and neither is your teacher. I am a Muslim, a person who has read the Quran vs the people who don't and my expertise should over rule their bigotry especially considering I provided verses and proof while you still have nothing to prove.

The thing is I was born and raised in America so cut the closed society bull. In America we have quite the advanced education and teachers don't teach subjects they have no actual legitimate knowledge about because it leads to misinformation like your stupid teacher and stupid pope did.

You were the first one to resort to petty and personal insults, do not act the victim.

The thing is, you come from a closed society. You dont know what it is like to get a humanistic education. In egypt you have a horrible education system. So why you claim things you have no clue about?

if i'm infront court, i'm a normal christian male european, what sentence can i expect from a muslim judge? Its clear she is hating me,

Muslims dont understand one thing. If they dont like it here they must go back wherevthey came from. I'm not tolerant.

Headscarf is a political symbol. She could wear a swastika around her arm and it would be the same.

Spare me your taquia lieing verses. Why dont you quote those where it says to kill all christians? Or those where it says we must be opressed and pay ransom?

This is a christian nation. A christian continent and no muslim will ever judge over me.

We dont have this problem in italy, since we have big fat cross in evry court and make clear that this is a christian nation.

would you consider our custom to put your hat down in a school building more silly than the female genital mutilation that over 90% of egyptian women suffer from or less?

As for taqiya please tell us, are there hateful verses in quran about christians? Swear by your god, that there is no verse in quran where terror, war or hate against christians is justified.

 

[MarkusS]

She quoted Misinformed sites, Where in the Quran does it say we have to ransom anybody? Let alone Christians? I gave you proof, your teacher was wrong unless you would like to provide these so called "verses" there is a difference between freedom of speech and spreading of lies and hatred.

Do you honestly expect me to read Italian? Who cares about the pope, the current one is quite respectful of Islam, I suggest you follow in his footsteps and not the one who knew absolutely nothing of Islam, your pope is an expert on christianity not Islam and neither is your teacher. I am a Muslim, a person who has read the Quran vs the people who don't and my expertise should over rule their bigotry especially considering I provided verses and proof while you still have nothing to prove.

The thing is I was born and raised in America so cut the closed society bull. In America we have quite the advanced education and teachers don't teach subjects they have no actual legitimate knowledge about because it leads to misinformation like your stupid teacher and stupid pope did.

You were the first one to resort to petty and personal insults, do not act the victim.

look what does this lead too? Only insults.

She said its demanded christians pay a special tax as ransom to not get killed. We had only a few hours about islam, She talked about those things you must do. I think it was like 4 or 5 things. Like going Mecca. She told basic stuff. Like you walk several times around that block there and also go to a hill and throw stones at a wall.

just very basic stuff.

Please dont bring up our holy father. Insulting pope is very bad. peace

 

[lastofthepatriots]

look what does this lead too? Only insults.

She said its demanded christians pay a special tax as ransom to not get killed. We had only a few hours about islam, She talked about those things you must do. I think it was like 4 or 5 things. Like going Mecca. She told basic stuff. Like you walk several times around that block there and also go to a hill and throw stones at a wall.

just very basic stuff.

Please dont bring up our holy father. Insulting pope is very bad. peace

I'm sure your holy father doesn't want your mothers and sisters to wear bikinis to the beach, but you euro-centric hypocrites forget that conveniently. Why don't you just admit that Euros are Pagans and non religious. After all of the homo-erotic Roman history that you are proud of on this forum, what gives you the right to pretend to be religious?