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Geography’s Curse: India’s Vulnerable ‘Chicken’s Neck’

India made Arunachal Pradesh a fortress, which cannot be breached, If china tries to invade through chicken neck, India can cut off the supply lines of chinese by cutting off the road and rail network to Tibet.
 
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With Myanmar . supporting Bangladesh does;nt have any benefit for India ,they will always be against us if support them as we did 1971 result immigrant and harboring insurgent , and for Myanmar we will be connected to South east Asia through them .
At this point in time a DB-Burma war will find China neutral but supporting BD covertly. India will have to toe the American line and support Burma.
 
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Too much far from Pakistan otherwise we would have already taken it back :D

Though we can even officially help you guys

All you guys need is to start the invasion of this chicken head/neck.

After all they still are the indians of the past.once you enter into a invasion they will bow before you like their past thousand of years history
 
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Too much far from Pakistan otherwise we would have already taken it back :D

Though we can even officially help you guys

All you guys need is to start the invasion of this chicken head/neck.

After all they still are the indians of the past.once you enter into a invasion they will bow before you like their past thousand of years history


Lmao, it's so hilarious considering that area of modern Pakistan never gave a fight to any foreign invader.

You Pakistanis who keep saying this are delusional. Those invaders not only violated your ancestors, but now those ancestors kids have those invaders as heros. :lol:
 
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Bangladesh invading north east India? What for? Perhaps your countrymen reacted too much to some guy who plays too many video games? Whom have no idea about war? I mean who cares what some fanboys say?

But I have to ask, if the north east is so stable with no volatility, then why all the fuss in the first place? Why are we not seeing significant development, investment and industrialization of that region?
Glad to have such views on the forum!
 
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Tracking the source of ‘Weapon Providers’ for NE Rebels | Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses

Tracking the source of ‘Weapon Providers’ for NE Rebels

Namrata Goswami

November 7, 2013
Time and again, Indian security personnel have indicated that the armed groups in Northeast India have sustained their armed violence due to the uninterrupted flow of weapons from across the border in Myanmar. The suspects in Myanmar are the Karen National Union (KNU) and the Kachin Independence Army (KIA). True these two armed ethnic groups have acted as the interlocking chain for the illegal weapons flow from Yunnan in China via Myanmar to Northeast India. However, the most effective illegal weapons trader in Myanmar is the armed ethnic group, the United Wa State Army (UWSA).

The UWSA is the military wing of the United Wa State Party (UWSP) founded in 1989 with members of Wa National Council (WNC), which represent the Wa ethnic group and former members of the Communist Party of Burma (CPB). The UWSA declared its own Wa State Government Special Administrative Region within Myanmar on January 1, 2009, but not recognized by the Government of Myanmar. The Wa State is modeled after China, having a Central Committee and the UWSP. The UWSA is not demanding a separate independent state and has signed a cease-fire with the Myanmar government in 1989. The reality, however, is that the Wa territories are completely under the Chinese radar. Because of the absence of a written script, the Wa State government conducts its official activities in Chinese. Most commodities within the Wa State are from China and the currency of exchange is the Renminbi. The Chinese Phoenix TV is very popular and the cellular phone network is dominated by China Mobile. Even the Chinese postal codes are used for mail delivery. For China, its linkage with the UWSA is of strategic priority, even more so than its bilateral relationship with the democratizing Myanmar government. The opening up of Myanmar and its political reform have rendered Chinese influence thinner and other countries like the US are upping their stakes in Myanmar. The US interest is vindicated by the fact that the first foreign visit by President Barack Obama in his second term was to Myanmar.

The geographic reality and strategic vulnerability of the China-Myanmar border explains why the UWSA is of critical importance to China. Five divisions of the UWSA are deployed along the Thai-Myanmar border and three divisions along the China-Myanmar border. The total strength of the UWSA is 30, 000 armed cadres with 10, 000 auxiliary force. Its writ is written large in these border areas and its dependence on China for financial and other support makes the UWSA a stakeholder in increased Chinese influence in Northeastern Myanmar. According toJane's Intelligence Review of April 2008, China became the main source of arms to the UWSA, displacing countries like Thailand and Cambodia who formed part of the traditional black market sources.1 In a December 2008 report, Jane's Intelligence Review reported that “China…provided the Wa with advanced weapons to build up their defenses. The transfers included surface to air missiles and, for the first time, at least 12 armored vehicles the report refers to as 'tank destroyers.'”2 In 2013, Jane’s reported that several Mil Mi-17 helicopters armed with TY-90 air-to-air missiles were supplied to UWSA by China.3 These allegations have been dismissed by China but the Wa-China connection is deep seated and actively supported by the Chinese government and the PLA. China’s supply of the Mil Mi-17 helicopters has been corroborated by Southeast Asia specialist Bertil Litner in his June 25, 2013 article for the Asia Times4.

Figure I: UWSA Territories and Arms Network
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Source: Namrata Goswami

The UWSA’s biggest source of revenue is its involvement in the illegal small arms network across South and Southeast Asia. It manufactures Chinese weapons with an “informal franchise”, procured from Chinese ordnance factories. The main motive is to sell these weapons for huge profit to Northeastern Indian armed groups who are lucrative consumers of such weapons. The arms manufacturing unit in the Wa territories are supported by the Chinese factories in Yunnan. Most of the weapons manufactured include machine guns, pistols, rifles and revolvers. The fact that some of the UWSA members were earlier members of the CPB helps establish connection within China especially with Chinese arms factories across the border in Yunnan.

Incidentally, the Wa people that the UWSA represents live largely in Northeastern Burma bordering China and Thailand. The Wa has ethnic kin in China’s Yunnan province and is one of the 56 ethnic nationalities officially recognized by China. In Myanmar, the Wa forms one of the 135 officially recognized ethnic groups. The border between the Wa territories and China is porous, and Han Chinese migration into these areas is on the rise. The Burmese Han population was approximately 1.6 million in 2012.

Myanmar has made attempts to persuade the UWSA to sign a ‘nationwide ceasefire’. However, the UWSA did not participate in the four day conference that started early November on a ‘nationwide cease-fire’. This conference, held in the Kachin city of Laiza saw participation of 18 major Myanmar armed ethnic groups including the Kachins. The UWSA’s refusal to take part in this nationwide cease-fire stems from two issues. First, it is already under cease-fire with the Myanmar government. Second, accepting a nationwide cease-fire creates limitations for its demand for an autonomous Wa state.

For India, there are three important security implications. First, the increasing role of the UWSA in illegal small arms proliferation in the Northeast India from Myanmar ensures that the armed ethnic groups in India’s border states will continue. Second, Myanmar’s political reform and the re-entry of the US as an important player in Myanmar incentivize China to increase its support for the UWSA for political leverage. Third, the absence of robust border-defense and monitoring mechanisms in India’s northeastern borders perpetuates this cycle of conflict and lawlessness. Therefore, prioritizing policy on the source of small arms from the UWSA is critical if India wants to disarm the armed groups in the Northeast.

Views expressed are of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of the IDSA or of the Government of India.

  1. 1.Manu Pubby, “China Emerging as Main Source of Arms of N-E Rebels: Jane Review”, The Indian Express, May 22, 2008 at http://www.indianexpress.com/news/china-emerging-as-main-source-of-arms-... (Accessed on October 29, 2013).
  2. 2.Daniel Schearf, “With Burma in Mind, China Quietly Supports Wa Rebels”, Voice of America, January 25, 2013 at http://www.voanews.com/content/chinese-support-for-wa-rebels-designed-to... (Accessed on October 30, 2013).
  3. 3.Anthony Davis, “ China ‘Sends Armed Helicopters to Myanmar Separatists”, IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly, April 25, 2013 at http://www.janes.com/article/12159/china-sends-armed-helicopters-to-myan... (Accessed on October 29, 2013).
  4. 4.Bertil Lintner, “Rain for Myanmar’s Peace Parade”, Asia Times, June 25, 2013 athttp://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/SEA-01-250613.html (Accessed on October 29, 2013).
 
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In realistic terms Bangladesh can do nothing with this, If push comes to shove, conventional power of india trumps all bangladeshi geographical advantages, as such if Bangladessh does come
under IA hammer (which I hope never would happen), wont take for more than 24hrs for boundaries to be reshaped....
Dear, there is a huge deference between a peace keeping contingent and an army defending it's own homeland.... rest is logical and I'm sure you know what I mean... 

Even if army numbers are in the ratio of 1/6th, the military prowess of India is far more more superior than that number... Next If china and India went to war, i.e. two nuclear power went for each other, I doubt bangladesh would want to attract any attention there. If in such hypothetical war against china, I would expect Bangladesh if not helping India, at best remaining neutral... I don't think bangladeshis have scavenger like mentality to stab India when it's bleding in a war... even pakistan did not do that....

Indian operations ceased being a Peace Keeping one the day they tried to Kill or capture LTTE leadership. That day on it was a total combat between the India and LTTE. India fought a war with LTTE for three years. Peacekeepers don't do that.

Operation Pawan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

BD will never attack India even if India is fighting a battle/war with China. There is nothing to gain from this. The issue comes what if India wants o use BD territories in case of a loss of chicken neck to advance its operations in such a scenario. The chance of that event is slim but not entirely unlikely.
In a scenario like that will India want to engage a second nation by violating its sovereignty ? What if India decide to do so ? Its better to have a plan to work on then to be running around like headless chickens if such a situation ever arises. 
Super Dooper Bangladesh will launch a laser attack on India from space , destroy all the naval and air forces and finally capture the chicken neck. An Indian spy satellite has managed to take a photograph of the Bangladeshi laser weapon station on the moon. On the right of the evil Bangladesi astronaut , you can see the laser weapon ready to be deployed.

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You are missing Delwar Hossain Sayeedi in the pic, this is the real deal,

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At this point in time a DB-Burma war will find China neutral but supporting BD covertly. India will have to toe the American line and support Burma.
How will China support you ,if India support Myanmar during DB-Burma war. you are complety surrounded by us
 
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india can take over bangladesh whenever it wants..if banglas join hands with the chinese..then for sure the bangla ports and and all water ways will be block in a flash..regarding chicken neck is concerned..if you see the neck is attached to nepal and burma..which can be used in worst can scenario as well..keep your chickens at bay..you never know whose neck is on the line!

if you see my avatar pic..there is no chicken neck..this is how it will be seen

@ You have a "Chicken Neck", it is a reality and today and tomorrow it will be vurnerable, there is no doubt in it. We have to realize the peoples of Sikkim, Bhutan and Nepal are not absolutely friendly with our great beloved friend. In times of crisis it may turn around. And besides these countries India's no.1(Chunwa) enemy is situated.

@ Now, historically if we see, I mean when the general election of 946 was held during British times, the people in and around ""Chicken Neck" voted Muslim Leaque hence for a separate Pakistan. But later on to have an link with seven sisters with main India this Neck was made and given to India.

@ In 1962, once the Sino-India war broke out people tried to take advantage but no formidable force was available in the then East Pakistan. It was just a Division(-) through out East Pakistan. And probably a Battallion was located in Rangpur. There was no military in and around "Chicken Neck" less the EPR. There aws only 1 x EPR Battalion located in Thakurgaon. Moreso, at that time Pakistan did not had a close intemacy with China.

@ Just before the Indo-Pak war of 1965, a Brigade was raised at Rangpur and a Commando Company was posted to Thakurgaon to look after the Chicken Neck. War ended silently the checken neck remained as it is ?

@ In 1970/71, 3 x Commando Battalion were brought in East Pakistan but nonof the elements of these Commandos were posted
 
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@ You have a "Chicken Neck", it is a reality and today and tomorrow it will be vurnerable, there is no doubt in it. We have to realize the peoples of Sikkim, Bhutan and Nepal are not absolutely friendly with our great beloved friend. In times of crisis it may turn around. And besides these countries India's no.1(Chunwa) enemy is situated.

@ Now, historically if we see, I mean when the general election of 946 was held during British times, the people in and around ""Chicken Neck" voted Muslim Leaque hence for a separate Pakistan. But later on to have an link with seven sisters with main India this Neck was made and given to India.

@ In 1962, once the Sino-India war broke out people tried to take advantage but no formidable force was available in the then East Pakistan. It was just a Division(-) through out East Pakistan. And probably a Battallion was located in Rangpur. There was no military in and around "Chicken Neck" less the EPR. There aws only 1 x EPR Battalion located in Thakurgaon. Moreso, at that time Pakistan did not had a close intemacy with China.

@ Just before the Indo-Pak war of 1965, a Brigade was raised at Rangpur and a Commando Company was posted to Thakurgaon to look after the Chicken Neck. War ended silently the checken neck remained as it is ?

@ In 1970/71, 3 x Commando Battalion were brought in East Pakistan but non of the elements of these Commandos were posted.

@ After independence 1 x Brigade was raised in Rangpur. Soon it was converted to a Divisiion. People says it is a Chinese Divisio.
 
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@ After independence 1 x Brigade was raised in Rangpur. Soon it was converted to a Divisiion. People says it is a Chinese Divisio.

No way! 1 mighty division of Bangladeshi soldiers, now India is doomed :lol: You do realise that any such misadventure will result in all out war, and it won't be localized. One squadron of Su-30 MKI and couple of batteries of Brahmos should be enough to blow all of Bangladesh to smithereens. And whatever is left we ll flush it down the Bay of Bengal by opening the gates of Farakka Barrage.

Enough day dreaming now, snap out of it.
 
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@ After independence 1 x Brigade was raised in Rangpur. Soon it was converted to a Divisiion. People says it is a Chinese Divisio.
And we have around 10 divisions there along with 2 MKI squardron+ 10 Bison+ mig27 squadrons(2 more mki squadrons are being raised). Also we have 2 Brahmos regiment there on each side of Chicken neck (150 operational missiles on mobile launchers along with more in reserves). Now talk about your super BD division.
 
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And we have around 10 divisions there along with 2 MKI squardron+ 10 Bison+ mig27 squadrons(2 more mki squadrons are being raised). Also we have 2 Brahmos regiment there on each side of Chicken neck (150 operational missiles on mobile launchers along with more in reserves). Now talk about your super BD division.

If there is any question of "chicken neck" control it will be decided by creative thinking and strategy. All indian "general" here and "lungi artist" failed to realize where actual threat will come from. So long "generals" and "lungi artist" waiting to push trigger on us they sure will be defeated.

Note: dear "lungi artist" i have no doubt in your artistic capability, I am sure you can draw dhoti and other indian costume as well. Sorry if I downplayed your capability just highlighting on lungi.

For Bangladeshis, why feed these indians when they are only in control of "enter" button and their best of best can not even solve red corridor issue? Let them chest thump because this is only place they can do it. I bet charging indians doing that could be booming business case.

And for those Bangladeshi "generals" here questioned need of S-300 type and 9A52-2T Smerch/PHL03 type systems before perhaps would see REAL threat perception.
 
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If there is any question of "chicken neck" control it will be decided by creative thinking and strategy. All indian "general" here and "lungi artist" failed to realize where actual threat will come from. So long "generals" and "lungi artist" waiting to push trigger on us they sure will be defeated.

For Bangladeshis, why feed these indians when they are only in control of "enter" button and their best of best can not even solve red corridor issue? Let them chest thump because this is only place they can do it. I bet charging indians doing that could be booming business case.

And for those Bangladeshi "generals" here questioned need of S-300 type and 9A52-2T Smerch/PHL03 type systems perhaps would see REAL threat perception.
All our assets are pointed toward actual threat and not in past but yes Now and in future we are in a very good position to nutralize any threat to North East. But I failed to understand why these BD 'lungis' are dreaming here to cut chicken neck when they are not in a position to do so remotely. BD is sorrounded 3 sides by India and we control water. We can create havoc in BD through man made disasters (not even considering military) if they even try to touch chicken neck.
PS: All of Our defence assets there are for different purpose and not for BD but still dreaming to cut chicken neck will be a sucide for BD while India would lose nothing at the end.
 
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You are missing Delwar Hossain Sayeedi in the pic, this is the real deal,

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Did not realize such fictitious art were indian made or inspired by indian love for art. Afterall, it was Awami league regime which abducted key witness who debunked case against Mr. Sayeedi. and india holding him to facilitate judicial killing.
 
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