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Liu Yazhou, in an apparent call for political reform, insists the army is at risk of becoming obsolete if it repeats the errors of the past

A liberal-leaning general has warned the military to embrace change or risk losing to international rivals in what analysts say is a veiled call for political reform.

In this month's influential Communist Party magazine Qiushi Journal, General Liu Yazhou wrote that the People's Liberation Army continued to be held back by the same blind adherence to past practice that led to the Qing dynasty's downfall.

Liu, who is political commissar at the National Defence University, argued that the refusal to set aside "old thinking" left the army at risk, despite huge advances in equipment and technology in recent years.

"The most backward army is not the poorly equipped one, but the one filled up with old thinking," Liu wrote. He called on the party to remove barriers to innovation and spend less time on political training and propaganda campaigns exaggerating the military's capabilities.

The army "should try hard to awake from its obsession with self-proclaimed glories, such as [China is] a 'resourceful superpower', and [the PLA is] a 'victory troop'," Liu said.

It is not the first time Liu - the son-in-law of late president Li Xiannian - has sounded the alarm for change in the country's institutions.

His 2004 essay "Western Theory" called on Beijing to enact political reform. Three years ago, he gave an interview to the Phoenix Weekly in which he said China must embrace US-style democracy or risk a Soviet-style collapse.

This month, Ming Pao Monthly reported that Liu had published a "manifesto of military reform" in 2008 carrying a similar call for change in the PLA.

In this latest commentary, Liu steered clear of the sensitive term "democracy". Instead, he called on the Communist Party to seize what he said might be its last chance to push "military reform with Chinese characteristics".

He argued that such reform was consistent with President Xi Jinping's orders to "listen to the party, be capable of victory".

Ho Leong-leong, a Hong Kong-based political commentator, said Liu appeared to be using such slogans to help ensure party members heard his central point.

"The so-called Chinese characteristics in this article are just political rhetoric aimed at passing the censorship of the party's mouthpiece Qiushi," Ho said.

Ni Lexiong , a Shanghai-based military expert, also saw Liu's commentary as a call for political reform. It was warning that the military was heading for another humiliating defeat if it failed to make political reform part of its modernisation drive.

"Political reform will provide a sustainable political foundation to support military development, because both the US and Japan achieved great military achievements after they successfully set up democratic systems," Ni said.

Liu noted the Chinese military had missed out on the last two big revolutions on military technology: the widespread use of firearms in the 17th century and the mechanisation of warfare after the first world war.

He said military technology in such countries as the United States was now undergoing a similar revolution, with a greater focus on cyberwarfare and a shift to smaller military units that can be deployed quickly to any environment. Failing to recognise such changes would be to repeat the mistakes of the Qing dynasty.

The authorities "would inevitably face resistance, risk, unrest and cost," he said. "If [leaders] take [political] cost and risk too seriously, they will be overcautious and indecisive and miss their last historic opportunity."

Antony Wong Dong, a Macau-based military expert, said Liu's articles could be seen as an attempt to scare the party into introducing political reform.

Shake off old ideas, general warns PLA, in veiled call for political reform | South China Morning Post
 
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Now the Chinese members here are going to crack down hard on the general. :lol:

I mean...After all...It is not like he is a general, had some kind of actual military experience, probably attended at least some super duper secret meetings, hobnobbed with other generals from other countries, etc...So what does he know about the PLA and its intellectual heading compared to the Chinese members here, who never served a day in the uniform of a fast food joint, let alone attended military basic training...:lol:
 
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nothing unexpected, the same general made same remarks many years ago, the most recently i can look up being in 2010 calling on China to reform or die. He is a reformer, one of many in the chinese communist party (even some members of poliburo are reformers). But he lacks support and thus does not have any real influence.


He is also somewhat connected, being married to the daughter of former chinese president Li Xiannan, that's most likely the reason he can be so vocal to this date.
 
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Only a political commissar at the National Defence University, He not even holding any army or unit... I bet he is just seeking attention.

Chairman Xi Jiping wife is also a general. Singer general.. :)

 
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First, China need take away the non-related parts from the military, e.g. arts, dancing and etc. That will greatly reduce our military budgets.
 
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First, China need take away the non-related parts from the military, e.g. arts, dancing and etc. That will greatly reduce our military budgets.

No way man. PLA performers are awesome. If spending must be cut, foreign cars or anything foreign should be removed from the PLA and replaced with locally manufactured items. E.g wines, cigarettes, Audi cars etc.
 
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Mulla gira to bhi taang upper...applies to chinese members in this forum!!!....:D
 
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Liu Yazhou is a pu$$y, no one in PLA likes this fool.

Thank to his father-in-law, he became a Lieutenant General, otherwise he has no business in the military.
 
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Does other modern armies have such kind of huge performing "armies"???

How about people from other countries entertain us about this?

No way man. PLA performers are awesome. If spending must be cut, foreign cars or anything foreign should be removed from the PLA and replaced with locally manufactured items. E.g wines, cigarettes, Audi cars etc.
 
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Of course we should learn from the all mighty US military that can't defeat the Taliban fighters on flip flops in Afghanistan after 12 years of war.:lol:
 
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The CCP will need to move to a smarter strategy eventually.

Do what the West does -- give an illusion of choice to the people when, in fact, all major politicians are bought by the same special interest groups.
 
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So should the guys who predicted the US would have tens of thousands of casualties in Desert Storm.

If you got sacked for every failed predictions, we will have many unemployed people.

You dont need to have worked in a fast food joint or attended military basic training to know that. :laugh:
 
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Now the Chinese members here are going to crack down hard on the general. :lol:

I mean...After all...It is not like he is a general, had some kind of actual military experience, probably attended at least some super duper secret meetings, hobnobbed with other generals from other countries, etc...

Crack down? Nah, he was promoted. Not everybody goes down in a similar fashion to nutcases like Douglas MacArthur.

So what does he know about the PLA and its intellectual heading compared to the Chinese members here, who never served a day in the uniform of a fast food joint, let alone attended military basic training...:lol:

Probably the same compared to a specific guy who takes any chance to make fun of the Chinese.

Liu Yazhou is a pu$$y, no one in PLA likes this fool.

Thank to his father-in-law, he became a Lieutenant General, otherwise he has no business in the military.

Doesn't matter what people thinks of him. He is an integral part of the military whose ideas may benefit the PLA.
 
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He said military technology in such countries as the United States was now undergoing a similar revolution, with a greater focus on cyberwarfare and a shift to smaller military units that can be deployed quickly to any environment. Failing to recognise such changes would be to repeat the mistakes of the Qing dynasty.


Cyberwarfare !? Dude please decide. Does China hacks US and steal it's military and civil technology or it doesn't? Western media is talking about special PLA units hacking US computers and stealing sensitive information. They also claimed Chinese hackers hacked NSA (God knows how) and stole terrabytes of data. Then this guy comes and says China should improve itself about cyberwarfare. Are you serious? If Chinese hackers are really frequently hacking US computers and stealing their technology than the ones who should improve themselves about cyberwarfare is US not China.

And also the US people should decide about something. Either they will admit that they can't even protect their technologies (which makes them miserable) or they will stop talking about every Chinese innovation being stolen from US (which makes them more miserable).

And for the Chinese members. If you "believe" that your military is strong then your military probably sucks. If you "know" or "think" that your military is strong, and your government doesn't need any propaganda or marketing work to prove it to you than your military is probably very strong. Champions doesn't need to prove anything. They are just winners. My opinion is that your military has enormous improvements recently and you're very close to game changer techs. But your military should be more transparent and more open to civil critique. Civil criticism will push them harder to achieve success at least it would be much more helpful than the "glory stories" which will lead to irrational thinking and laze.
 
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