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General Kayani -Extension or CJCSC?

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General Kayani -Extension or CJCSC?

2010-05-31

For some weeks now there have been articles, sponsored undoubtedly, that say that Pakistan's Chief of Army Staff, General Asfaq Pervez Kayani will in all probability get an extended tenure in office, as he has become "indispensable" in Islamabad's "scheme of things".

Many in Pakistan feel that the country is passing through a critical phase and continuity at the top, which means the Army in Pakistan, is, therefore, essential.

Whispers in the corridors of power suggest that General Kayani would not seek an extension but would gracefully accept if invited to serve the country for a little while longer.

Others speculate on the possibility of the good general being elevated to the post of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCSC) with executive powers, which could mean that the post is not treated as a glorified sinecure.

Arguing in the Pakistan media on behalf of Kayani, have been Zafar Hilaly, a former diplomat and now a columnist, Shahzad Choudhry, a former Air Vice Marshall and High Commissioner to Sri Lanka and Ikram Sehgal, a former Army Major and now a defence and strategic analyst.

There have been whispers in Islamabad and Rawalpindi for some weeks now about this open solicitation campaign stared that began at the end of April, when Hilaly wrote a laudatory article in The News on the Pakistan Army in general, and on General Kayani's leadership in particular.

General Kayani's leadership was particularly praised for the success achieved in counter insurgency operations in Swat and Waziristan.

Hilaly naturally did the mandatory para on how the Azm-e-Nau III military exercise showed how ready Pakistan was to contain and counter traditional enemy, India.

Air Vice Marshal Chaudhry's take (Daily Times May 10) on this was that the Pakistan defence management system needed to be recast with a new CJCSC who would be consulted for the appointment of the chiefs of the three services, promotions to three star rank should be cleared by a board headed by the CJCSC, the directorates of ISI and the ISPR should be directly controlled by the CJCSC. He said General Kayani should be the new CJCSC, balancing powers between his office and that of his successor.

In a follow up article in the Daily Times (May 14) Hilaly was more direct. He said General Kayani needed to stay because removing a commander in the midst of a war (against the Taliban) would send a wrong signal to 'friend and foe alike'.

More importantly, Hilaly's opinion was that General Kayani was 'uniquely suited for the job at this juncture of our troubled history in view of his personality, temperament, ability, aptitude and experience.'

Writing a column on May 13, on a website P K Columns, former Major Ikram Sehgal after praising General Kayani also argues for his retention as CJCSC as granting an extension would clog the system down the line.

Of course, not everyone is entirely pleased with this chain of thought.

Ayesha Siddiqa, writing on her blog on May 13 (What's up in the GHQ), is very blunt when she says that the Army chief's office was feeding its favourite journalists with stories about General Kayani's continuation.

Her contention, and this is a reasonable contention, is that a decision to extend the term would depend upon three factors - an agreement within the GHQ, a nod from the US and support of the political government.

The political government is on the back foot and Zardari himself is considerably weakened. There would be very little resistance from the political set up. It is true that the US would like continuity and General Kayani becomes the preferred option, but only if he is perceived to be able to deliver on US objectives.

Of these, therefore, the first - opinion of the GHQ - is the most important and latest 'leaks' suggest some kind of an agreement but no-one really knows whether this is for an extension as a COAS or as a new empowered CJCSC.

It is well known that the Pakistan Army top brass takes care of its interests first and Siddiqa does not think that the last has been heard about the extension issue. (ANI)

General Kayani -Extension or CJCSC?
 
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The sooner such things stop the better .
 
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the army is very traditional - changing the roles of CJSC and CoAS is not going to be easy - i will be very surprised if they did (the army that is).
 
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the army is very traditional - changing the roles of CJSC and CoAS is not going to be easy - i will be very surprised if they did (the army that is).

You are right sir. Moreover the difference between chairman of a committee and chief army of staff does not require any explanation.:cheers:
 
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You are right sir. Moreover the difference between chairman of a committee and chief army of staff does not require any explanation.:cheers:

The retirement of Gen.Kiyani is due in December, 2010. Keeping in view the latest development in war of terror sector and US plans to control Kandhar and operations against Punjabi/Pakistan Taliban, we shall be in dire need to retain Gen.Kiyani as COAS at least for two more years. The situation on Pak borders would entirely be different in November and December 2010. It shall be volatile and would be harmful for Pakistan.
SMIQBAL.
 
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The retirement of Gen.Kiyani is due in December, 2010. Keeping in view the latest development in war of terror sector and US plans to control Kandhar and operations against Punjabi/Pakistan Taliban, we shall be in dire need to retain Gen.Kiyani as COAS at least for two more years. The situation on Pak borders would entirely be different in November and December 2010. It shall be volatile and would be harmful for Pakistan.
SMIQBAL.

There has been significant changes to the kandahar operation as the Marjah Operation didnt delivered its required goals. Gen McChrystal is going back to his roots and opting for more SOF operations. Which would also mean more pressure being applied on Pakistan. As whenever the US find itself in a sticky situation Pakistan seem like an easy scapegoat.
Thus it would make sense to retain Kiyani in such situation as he is having good chemistry with Admiral Mike Mullen and other US top brass. On the other hand giving extensions would clog-up the system and may create resentment lower down the chain of command. So its kinda catch 22 situation.
 
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The Army Chiefs


General Sir Frank Walter Messervy KCIE, CB, CBE, DSO, MC
KCB
August 1947 - Feburary 1948



IA-38 General Douglas David Gracey D (KCB, KCIE, CB, CBE, MC)
February 1948 - April 1951




PA-10 Field Marshal Muhammad Ayub Khan HJ, NPk, HPk (C-in-C)
17 January 1951 - 26 October 1958




PA-28 General Muhammad Musa HJ, HPk, HQA, MBE, (C-in-C)
27 October 1958 - 17 September1966



PA-98 General Agha Muhammad Yahya Khan HPk, HJ, SPk
18 September 1966 - 20 December 1971




PA-457 General Gul Hassan SQA, SPk (C-in-C)
Acting C-in-C 20 December 1971- 21 Jan 1972
C-in-C 22 January 1972 - 2 March 1972






PA-124 General Tikka Khan HJ, HQA, SPk
3 March 1972 - 1 March 1976



PA- 1810 General Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq 1 March 1976 - 17 August 1988



PA-4064 General Mirza Aslam Beg NI (M), S Bt
17 August 1988 - 16 August 1991



PA-5336 General Asif Nawaz Janjua NI (M), S Bt
16 August 1991 - 8 January 1993



PA-5977 General Abdul Waheed NI (M), S Bt
12 January 1993 - 12 January 1996



PA-6399 General Jehangir Karamat NI (M), T Bt
12 January 1996 - 7 October 1998



PA-6920 General Pervez Musharraf NI (M), T Bt
7 October 1998 - 28 November 2007



PA-12850 General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani NI (M), HI
November 2007 - Todate


Who's Next?
 
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There are few name one of these is current ISI head.

What you say ?
 
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The retirement of Gen.Kiyani is due in December, 2010. Keeping in view the latest development in war of terror sector and US plans to control Kandhar and operations against Punjabi/Pakistan Taliban, we shall be in dire need to retain Gen.Kiyani as COAS at least for two more years. The situation on Pak borders would entirely be different in November and December 2010. It shall be volatile and would be harmful for Pakistan.
SMIQBAL.

You are right. My point was in relations to someone's opinion that COAS be elevated to CJCSC. To me extension or retention makes more sense than elevation to CJCSC :cheers:
 
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There are few name one of these is current ISI head.

What you say ?

he is already on 1-yr extension. the inside track is the current CGS - Gen.Wyne.
 
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Well, the most eligible General to be the next COAS seems to be Khalid Shamim Wayee. He will be the most senior General at the time of Kayani's retirement. All others above him are either superseded or will retire by that time. Plus, his elevation as CGS indicates that he is being favoured by COAS for the job. He is considered a hard-task master with good leadership capabilities and reputation.
And as for, Gen Kayani's extension, I personnaly think he should get one more year. His conduct so far, the way he has helped rebuild the standing of the Army [Remember last year], and the operational side favour this. He is also very well thought of by the army cadres. And it is no secret that he is good friend of Admiral Mullen [according to eyewitnesses]. So the only question is whether Political leadership goes ahead with it. All the signs right now indicate that they won't. Let's hope for the better.:pakistan:
 
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Though it will go against the very necessity of a democracy = system is bigger than an individual, but given the currrent scenario in Pakistan, I personally think that it is best if Gen. Kayani (if he accepts it) is given an extension.

The General is the best thing that has happended to Pakistani Army in a long while and any changes at the helm currently will definitely add to some amount of uncertainity. It will not only be good for Pakistan but in my opinion for India, because of his simple following of his role = a Pakistani soldier and not adventure in to politics.

I think that even the PA will be motivated with this extension. However, it should be done in a manner that it is an exception and does not become a precedent for future power hungry Generals to continue clinging to the position like has oft happended in the past in Pakistan.
 
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This is a list of top ten generals. The source is not authoritative. If some one has corrections, will be appreciated.

1. Ashfaq Kayani [COAS, Nov 2010]

2. Tariq Majeed Kayani [CJCSC, Oct, 2010]

3. Sikander Afzal [UNMIL, March, 2011]

4. Khalid Shameem Wayee, [CGS, March 2011]

5. Abrar Husain, [ASFC, Oct 2011]

6. Lt Gen Javed Zia. [Quetta CC, Sept 2011]

7. Shujaat Zamir Dar [POF, Sept 2011]

8. Mohsin Kamal [MS GHQ, Sep 2011]

9. Jamil Haider [AG GHQ, Sep 2011]

10. Nadeem Taj [CC Guj, April 2011]
 
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He has a very good reputation amongst the political leadership and above all people of Pakistan like to seem him commanding the Army of their country
 
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