General Elections 1970

[BDforever]

@Karla M do you know about International mother language day ?

 

[Karla M]

@Karla M do you know about International mother language day ?

uhmm... not really...why?

 

[BDforever]

uhmm... not really...why?

International Mother Language Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Language Movement Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

check it out...
this was the start of revolution

 

[Karla M]

this was the start of revolution

oooh yes....
correct me if im wrong

according to what i had read

the thing that made Bengalis united was more their language than religion... when Pakistan was created..it was based on Islam...so Jinnah thought that should be enough to stick together even if they were a thousand miles away....but when he announced that urdu would be the official language... that really made angry the bengalis? the poetry and culture was part of their nationalism???

 

[BDforever]

oooh yes....
correct me if im wrong

according to what i had read

the thing that made Bengalis united was more their language than religion... when Pakistan was created..it was based on Islam...so Jinnah thought that should be enough to stick together even if they were a thousand miles away....but when he announced that urdu would be the official language... that really made angry the bengalis? the poetry and culture was part of their nationalism???

 

[Tameem]

oooh yes....
correct me if im wrong

according to what i had read

the thing that made Bengalis united was more their language than religion... when Pakistan was created..it was based on Islam...so Jinnah thought that should be enough to stick together even if they were a thousand miles away....but when he announced that urdu would be the official language... that really made angry the bengalis? the poetry and culture was part of their nationalism???

You are absolutely correct, Urdu is still national language of Pakistan despites no actual native ethnicity speaks it, Pakistanis were/are/will united on the basis of religion alone. Bengalis prove how wrong Jinnah was about them.

 

[Armstrong]

oooh yes....
correct me if im wrong

according to what i had read

the thing that made Bengalis united was more their language than religion... when Pakistan was created..it was based on Islam...so Jinnah thought that should be enough to stick together even if they were a thousand miles away....but when he announced that urdu would be the official language... that really made angry the bengalis? the poetry and culture was part of their nationalism???

This is a fallacy perpetrated by Bengali Nationalists; Urdu was supposed to be the National Language - the lingua franca or Common Tongue - not the Official Language of Pakistan.

The following article quotes Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah's exact speech : Jinnah And Urdu-Bengali Controversy | Pak Tea House

And its perfectly logical; Urdu was understood by Pakistanis across the length and breadth of the country whereas Bengali was only understood by well Bengalis !

Besides if Bengali were to be declared the National/State Language why not our local languages ? We were an ethnically and linguistically diverse nation....we sill are.

A Punjabi, a Pukhtoon, a Saraiki, a Sindhi etc. would have all the right in the world to demand that their local languages be made into the National Language of Pakistan but Urdu and only Urdu made sense because it was the Common Tongue between people who's mother tongues ranged from Bengali on one hand to Punjabi on the other !

 

[BDforever]

This is a fallacy perpetrated by Bengali Nationalists; Urdu was supposed to be the National Language - the lingua franca or Common Tongue - not the Official Language of Pakistan.

The following article quotes Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah's exact speech : Jinnah And Urdu-Bengali Controversy | Pak Tea House

And its perfectly logical; Urdu was understood by Pakistanis across the length and breadth of the country whereas Bengali was only understood by well Bengalis !

Besides if Bengali were to be declared the National/State Language why not our local languages ? We were an ethnically and linguistically diverse nation....we sill are.

A Punjabi, a Pukhtoon, a Saraiki, a Sindhi etc. would have all the right in the world to demand that their local languages be made into the National Language of Pakistan but Urdu and only Urdu made sense because it was the Common Tongue between people who's mother tongues ranged from Bengali on one hand to Punjabi on the other !

1. we were majority
2. sure you can do local languages, will it hurt your body ? Many countries have many offical state languages so yea lame excuse.
you are giving written Pakistani source
now shooooooooooooo

 

[Karla M]

This is a fallacy perpetrated by Bengali Nationalists; Urdu was supposed to be the National Language - the lingua franca or Common Tongue - not the Official Language of Pakistan.

The following article quotes Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah's exact speech :

And its perfectly logical; Urdu was understood by Pakistanis across the length and breadth of the country whereas Bengali was only understood by well Bengalis !

Besides if Bengali were to be declared the National/State Language why not our local languages ? We were an ethnically and linguistically diverse nation....we sill are.

A Punjabi, a Pukhtoon, a Saraiki, a Sindhi etc. would have all the right in the world to demand that their local languages be made into the National Language of Pakistan but Urdu and only Urdu made sense because it was the Common Tongue between people who's mother tongues ranged from Bengali on one hand to Punjabi on the other !

right now....is urdu and english the only official languages?? or locals are also recognized?

 

[Armstrong]

1. we were majority
2. sure you can do local languages, will it hurt your body ? Many countries have many offical state languages so yea lame excuse.
you are giving written Pakistani source
now shooooooooooooo

(1) You being in the majority doesn't mean anything unless if we're going by majoritarian authoritarianism !

(2) No one denied you the right to have Bengali as the Official Language in East-Pakistan; having multiple National Languages, on the other hand, is the same as having no National Language at all because than the term 'National Language' doesn't mean anything but politically correct pious sentimentalism !

(3) Its not a Pakistani Source; its an article written by a Pakistani quoting an actual speech of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah - If we're going to accuse the man of something let us at least have the decency of reading what he actually said before we pass judgement !

 

[BDforever]

(1) You being in the majority doesn't mean anything unless if we're going by majoritarian authoritarianism !

this was actually whole case

 

[Karla M]

East was a majority...
but West was politically dominant....

how did that happen?

 

[Armstrong]

right now....is urdu and english the only official languages?? or locals are also recognized?

Urdu is the National Language of Pakistan.

English is the Official Language of Pakistan and is used as the medium of instruction/communication in almost all roles in the Pakistani Society from the Academia to the Bureaucracy !

Urdu too is the Official Language of Pakistan but it doesn't have much of a pronounced role in that capacity because Education is predominantly in English.

Regional Languages of Pakistan are taught as compulsory subjects in some Provinces of Pakistan, electable subjects in others and the major Regional Languages of Pakistan are taught up till the point of a Doctorate Degree at the University Level here; they are not however, usually, used in an Official capacity because Pakistani Provinces are ethnically and linguistically heterogeneous which means you can't really have one or even two regional languages in an Official Capacity because vast swathes of the People in those Provinces won't understand that !

 

[Karla M]

uhmm!
this is so confusing...
if a person form FATA meets someone from Balochistan and another from Punjab...
which language would they speak?

Urdu is the National Language of Pakistan.

English is the Official Language of Pakistan and is used as the medium of instruction/communication in almost all roles in the Pakistani Society from the Academia to the Bureaucracy !

Urdu too is the Official Language of Pakistan but it doesn't have much of a pronounced role in that capacity because Education is predominantly in English.

Regional Languages of Pakistan are taught as compulsory subjects in some Provinces of Pakistan, electable subjects in others and the major Regional Languages of Pakistan are taught up till the point of a Doctorate Degree at the University Level here; they are not however, usually, used in an Official capacity because Pakistani Provinces are ethnically and linguistically heterogeneous which means you can't really have one or even two regional languages in an Official Capacity because vast swathes of the People in those Provinces won't understand that !

uhmm!
this is so confusing...
if a person form FATA meets someone from Balochistan and another from Punjab...
which language would they speak?

 

[BDforever]

East was a majority...
but West was politically dominant....

how did that happen?

this is your case, the forceful power of Army which was mainly West Pakistani dominated

uhmm!
this is so confusing...
if a person form FATA meets someone from Balochistan and another from Punjab...
which language would they speak?

urdu LOL