General Dynamics unveils its new ‘light tank’ concept

[Zarvan]

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U.S. aerospace and defense company General Dynamics revealed an extremely groovy new concept tracked armored vehicle during the 2019 Modern Day Marine expo in Quantico, Virginia.

General Dynamics Land Systems, a business unit of General Dynamics, has unveiled a mockup of the new ‘light tank’ — called the Griffin II.

The Griffin II is a new combat vehicle to support infantry brigade combat teams — a lightweight vehicle that can be airlifted into battle and maneuver, dispersed if necessary, in close-quarters urban terrain, but with lethal long-range firepower to take out enemy armored vehicles.




According to the current information, the new medium-weight, a large-caliber vehicle intends to boost the firepower of airborne and other light infantry units and was designed under for the U.S. Army’s Mobile Protected Firepower program.

The U.S. Army expects that new ‘light tank’ will be a 38-ton tracked armored vehicle that will capable to provide Soldiers with speed, protection, lethality and the ability to wage a multidomain battle, working in concert with other ground forces to overwhelm the enemy with multiple simultaneous challenges.

The new “light tank” will have had improved armor and a 120 mm main gun that will remind the Abrams’ 120 mm cannon. Griffin’s turret is a scaled-down version of the M1 Abrams turret designed to engage in combat with tanks and other armoured vehicles.

Additionally, vehicle survivability can be greatly increased with intelligent sensors that are integrated with the hardware, software and effectors to create an overarching, layered system of passive and active self-defense measures.

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[Metanoia]

If anything the conflicts around Mid-East has taught us, is that ATGMs can easily negate heavy armour. The usefulness of a light tank regardless of how technologically advanced it is....is questionable at best.

Aerial superiority, drones, ATGMs, well trained/equipped soldiers as well as technology which helps in situational/battlefield awareness and strict discipline is what helps you win a battle.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

If anything the conflicts around Mid-East has taught us, is that ATGMs can easily negate heavy armour. The usefulness of a light tank regardless of how technologically advanced it is....is questionable at best.

Aerial superiority, drones, ATGMs, well trained/equipped soldiers as well as technology which helps in situational/battlefield awareness and strict discipline is what helps you win a battle.

no. That failed in Afghanistan.
I think small groups and ambush strategy works the best.
Even if you have 600k soldiers, u can divide them into smaller groups and don't fight while sitting in a fix location, then u will cause heavy damage to the adversary with less casualities.
Also second lesson learnt was mobility. Even motorcycles with high mobility work in such kind of wars. Mobility was the reason for succes of mongols.

 

[Trango Towers]

no. That failed in Afghanistan.
I think small groups and ambush strategy works the best.
Even if you have 600k soldiers, u can divide them into smaller groups and don't fight while sitting in a fix location, then u will cause heavy damage to the adversary with less casualities.
Also second lesson learnt was mobility. Even motorcycles with high mobility work in such kind of wars. Mobility was the reason for succes of mongols.

@Metanoia is talking about army vs army and you are talking about a gorilla warfare. Bot of you are correct

 

[Counter-Errorist]

If anything the conflicts around Mid-East has taught us, is that ATGMs can easily negate heavy armour. The usefulness of a light tank regardless of how technologically advanced it is....is questionable at best.

Aerial superiority, drones, ATGMs, well trained/equipped soldiers as well as technology which helps in situational/battlefield awareness and strict discipline is what helps you win a battle.

If these tanks can operate unmanned, they will work wonders on the field.

Heavy armour is too bulky for urban combat, particularly with the narrow vision available to drivers. Infantry divisions controlling the tank remotely among them will make this lightweight a beast.

On a side-note, can anyone enlighten me why we're not seeing the trend for unmanned ground vehicles like we do for aircrafts?

@Signalian @Oscar

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

@Metanoia is talking about army vs army and you are talking about a gorilla warfare. Bot of you are correct

i am also talking about army vs army. An army which fight old conventional war will lose. Army which adopt its strategy according to terrain and weapons will win.
static numbers don't count any more. well trained and better integrated army will easily win.

 

[Metanoia]

If these tanks can operate unmanned, they will work wonders on the field.

Absolutely agree. However, how much does an ATGM costs as compared to a potentially unmanned technologically advanced light tank? Point to ponder.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

Absolutely agree. However, how much does an ATGM costs as compared to a potentially unmanned technologically advanced light tank? Point to ponder.

Not the right way to look at it, IMO.

How much does a trained soldier costs compared to a bullet?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Not practical. The US once used M108 105 mm SPH which was found too light firepower.

 

[Kamil_baku]

Absolutely agree. However, how much does an ATGM costs as compared to a potentially unmanned technologically advanced light tank? Point to ponder.

what happens after countries develop hardkill protection system?
Turkey developed it and plans to put it on Altay tank by 2020..
Also, recently updated some old tanks with active protection system which might be used in new Syrian attack

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Absolutely agree. However, how much does an ATGM costs as compared to a potentially unmanned technologically advanced light tank? Point to ponder.

I think Kornet they say costs only like 50,000 bucks. Really cheap.

what happens after countries develop hardkill protection system?
Turkey developed it and plans to put it on Altay tank by 2020..
Also, recently updated some old tanks with active protection system which might be used in new Syrian attack

APS is expensive and don't work well against multiple attacks.

 

[Kamil_baku]

I think Kornet they say costs only like 50,000 bucks. Really cheap.



APS is expensive and don't work well against multiple attacks.

it is only a million dollar, you are also safe to attack..
Actually Turkish engineer confirmed that it is successful against multiple attacks..
on the other hand, nobody will be able to fire 3-4 anti tank missiles at the same time.. as soon as your turn your laser pointer, tank's laser warning system will know your location, will create a wall of smoke to stop the view and fire back the exact location...
only, helicopters will be able to fire several anti tank weapons and those even will come up with cost and not everybody has helicopter or light attack jets.. those also will be shot down from distance with air deffence weapons.. its all coordinated..

 

[Metanoia]

How much does a trained soldier costs compared to a bullet?

Not the right comparison. The unmanned tank = trained soldier?

 

[UkroTurk]

Would it be half price of M1 Abrams? İ think no. So I rest my case.