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Gen. Raheel not received any job offer from Saudi Arabia: Sartaj Aziz

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  1. Kaptaan

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    WE need Turkish style nationalism and think green, talk green, breath green and bleed green.

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    And you think Russian's and Iranian's started the Syrian fiasco? What you get your news from Fox news or Israel Times newspaper.

    It was USA and Saudia that began the Syrian fiasco that then ran out of control to the ketchup it is today.
     
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    I propose Trans-Arabian Cooperation Organization (TACO) :partay: :partay: :partay:

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    Pakistan and GCC (TACO) have divergent geopolitical goals so any alliance based on mutual defence is a non-starter. Pakistan's regional rival is India with whom we have fought a few wars while GCC's regional rival is Iran. Pakistan has no history of conflict with Iran and GCC has no history of conflict with India. TACO implies Pakistan and GCC take on new enemies. This is a tough sales pitch in international politics.

    Unions, like the United Kingdom and European Union, are built upon regional cooperation. Ergo, GCC is a workable idea.

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    Pakistan and GCC do not share a border. In the past, Pakistan was in a union with no shared borders. Should I remind people what was the outcome of that union?

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    TACO won't sell in GCC or Pakistan because (a) it is not regional and (b) Arabs will be forced to fight India in case of a war. Now keep in mind, both Pakistan and India have nuclear weapons.

    Pakistan does have other regional cooperation models without defence pacts, i.e.,
    Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO), South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) and now defunct Regional Cooperation for Development (RCD).


    Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO):

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    Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO):

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    A prerequisite to joining any alliance - the alliance members must firmly state that they support our position on Kashmir - liberating IoK from the occupiers.

    Any country that wouldn't say that fearing it might piss off India is not an ally!

    So I must add - I'm not even remotely interested in this 40 nation bullshit alliance. Unless the other 39 nations agree to fight our wars!
     
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  4. PaklovesTurkiye

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    I don't think they started it but they also got dirty in it...
     
  5. Azadkashmir

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    They did bro plus russia is pist about oil price, when saudis lowered theres and now saudis are crying and cutting back but taking it out on oversea workers like paks. We can argue that russia has done more positive for pakistan than saudis have. iran on other hand is like stuck up girl.
     
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    You forgot to mention [​IMG]!

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    Source for pics - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia_Regional_Economic_Cooperation_Program
     
  7. PaklovesTurkiye

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    I respect your opinion...
     
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    It is an Islamic coalition against terrorism, not an Arab coalition, there are 40 Muslim countries in it, with HQ in KSA..

    The underlined is not true, the rest is good enough..
     
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    If nationalist parties in Pakistan gain popularity then you can expect the supporters to also display a sea of Pakistan flags.

    For now, parties like PMLN and PPP put their own parties before their interests of the nation. Rather than advocate for more nationalism, you should criticize the current mainstream parties for not putting Pakistan first.
     
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    You went to an extreme, since Kashmir is still a UN issue, any nation of the coalition who suffers from terrorism can call upon the coalition forces, So it is first of all, mandatory that a member country calls upon help first,, the coalition seems to be made for the weakest Muslim countries who can not defend themselves properly against militias or other terrorist organizations and in general for every member country.. It is mainly a Muslim's countries stabilization tool..The lessons were taken from Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Libya..
     
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    That doesn't change the ground reality or the facts :azn:
     
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    That is true, they have supplanted the US who's interests lied with Usrael alone, who in fact along with its supporters benefits most from a destabilized Middle East.., China and Russian will most probably go for win/win situations, the US will try to keep what is left of its bases and assets in the area, but their destabilizing effort will be kept in check by regional and international partners..
     
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    Only us Pakistanis ever ask for this. Other Muslims don't. UNTIL they do, we need to shelf this idea. Unfortunately a lot of Muslims would genocide their own or other Muslims just to please their american gods. Saddam's Hussein against the Iranians 1980-88 is a fine example of this.


    More like the various ethnic groups want a part of the Pakistani pie as we are rising, becoming more advanced and powerful.
     
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    Next Head of Joint Force

    Its is not a "Job" its Leading the United force Units
     
  15. Peshwa

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    No, but it does seperate the "doers" from the "talkers".