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Gen Bajwa rubbishes Indian army chief's claim of 'so-called surgical strikes' on Pakistan

You claimed to have done surgical strike in Azad Kashmir. Then what do you expect foreign media to see and give reports from Antarctica?
and about the pictures


faces blurred to protect identity.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
This pics were released by a private news burea not army.
Even your media showed fake old videos as incidents on LoC.
 
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Seriously how messed up you people are..You people keep funding Talibans who are massacring Afghans.On the other side fueling Kashmir with mercenaries.Both side you are creating deaths.
Taliban in Afghanistan are rebels who were once in power.
Was burhan wani a Pakistani(he was from heart)?
You killed 100k kashmiris ,500k missing people of which 4000 were found in mass graves and you expect no retaliation?

This pics were released by a private news burea not army.
Even your media showed fake old videos as incidents on LoC.
disowning your army and media?
 
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Seriously how messed up you people are..You people keep funding Talibans who are massacring Afghans.On the other side fueling Kashmir with mercenaries.Both side you are creating deaths.
Dude what u have todo with Afghanistan? Do u even know the history of Afghanistan? They were fighting with each others long before Taliban came, and don't cry like baby if pakistan were supporting Taliban on the other side India Russia Iran also was supporting 2nd group northern alliance , who were also criminals, if pak able to beat u guys then don't shitt here just accept this we were the winners
 
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Well said Army chief, these Indians need to understand any misadventure will be met with devastating force, there was no sir jee kal strike to speak off.
 
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First tell your friend to exercise restraint and not to start fights.
I have always replied in kind on this forum since 2011.

First of all he is not my friend second of all, I told you he shall be addressed as well third of all 22 bad ratings on your part isn't all a champion image and last but nor least you been here since Oct 11th 2016 and not 2011 as it seems to be period.
 
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Lol.
The journalist in your video was talking during the ISPR guided tour presentation.


Stop lying.
Indian Army never released any picture.

So it seems you don't have any arguments left and your go to move is saying "LOL (Add description of what happened in a video link) ". What's your argument again ? Weren't you the same one that said that Pakistan didn't take journalists to the claimed surgical strike sites yet here is Sophia Saifi reporting for CNN from one of the five locations that were claimed surgical strike sites ..

Again ... you should revisit your arguments ... because your claiming that India did surgical strikes.. When asked for proof you present a BBC link. When your shown that even that same link doesn't believe your side of the story .. and that ISPR took international media to the sites mentioned by the indian side or what the UNMOGIP said .. and the fact that your own story as presented by your media contradicts itself SIXTEEN TIMES .... When pressed on any concrete proof from your side you say that a senior mod said something across those lines ... and yet you fail to quote that individual or that post ...


In other words ... you don't have an argument to begin with ... you've already conceded that the Indian side presented no proof and all your supposed "arguments" are complete horse excrement frankly... so, if that's all the material you have ... don't bother quoting me again ...
 
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le beta..It's enough to get an indication..
mid,ru/en/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/2481037

Russian Foreign Ministry put out a statement saying: “We are concerned with the aggravation lately of the situation along the line of control between India and Pakistan. We are calling on the parties not to allow any escalation of tension and to settle the existing problems by political and diplomatic means through negotiations. We stand for decisive struggle against terrorism in all its manifestations. We expect the government of Pakistan to take effective steps in order to stop the activities of terrorists’ groups in the territory of the country."

U are giving me an Indian source to back Indian claim?

Le beta...Its enough to get an indication...

http://www.dailyo.in/politics/isis-...an-ties-cpec-china-taliban/story/1/14918.html

http://www.dailyo.in/politics/brics...unsc-nsg-cpec-masood-azhar/story/1/13347.html

http://www.firstpost.com/india/hear...-use-hoa-to-score-brownie-points-3139614.html
 
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Bbc said Indian Army crossed LoC and destroyed Pakistani posts.
What's new ? Both sides done these type of operations in past , pak army accepted they lost 2 of its jawans when IA tried to cross loc
 
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So it seems you don't have any arguments left and your go to move is saying "LOL (Add description of what happened in a video link) ". What's your argument again ? Weren't you the same one that said that Pakistan didn't take journalists to the claimed surgical strike sites yet here is Sophia Saifi reporting for CNN from one of the five locations that were claimed surgical strike sites ..

Again ... you should revisit your arguments ... because your claiming that India did surgical strikes.. When asked for proof you present a BBC link. When your shown that even that same link doesn't believe your side of the story .. and that ISPR took international media to the sites mentioned by the indian side or what the UNMOGIP said .. and the fact that your own story as presented by your media contradicts itself SIXTEEN TIMES .... When pressed on any concrete proof from your side you say that a senior mod said something across those lines ... and yet you fail to quote that individual or that post ...


In other words ... you don't have an argument to begin with ... you've already conceded that the Indian side presented no proof and all your supposed "arguments" are complete horse excrement frankly... so, if that's all the material you have ... don't bother quoting me again ...
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Sophia saifi was taken to leepa valley which has an area of 120 km2 so she is in no position to say what happened.

The senior moderator post can be found on Oct-1, 2016.

What's new ? Both sides done these type of operations in past , pak army accepted they lost 2 of its jawans when IA tried to cross loc
Pak Army claimed there was no crossing of LoC but just cross fire, which is false.
 
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le beta..It's enough to get an indication..
mid,ru/en/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/2481037

Russian Foreign Ministry put out a statement saying: “We are concerned with the aggravation lately of the situation along the line of control between India and Pakistan. We are calling on the parties not to allow any escalation of tension and to settle the existing problems by political and diplomatic means through negotiations. We stand for decisive struggle against terrorism in all its manifestations. We expect the government of Pakistan to take effective steps in order to stop the activities of terrorists’ groups in the territory of the country."


Your best of best friend put out a meaningless statement, that is it? Putin didn't even bother reading it for you? Beyond pathetic. :omghaha::omghaha:
 
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Website of The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation is really meaningless to you? It's prodigious how you people suit yourselves up with such humiliation & be birdbrained about it Lol


In your deluded world, a garbage collector reading the statement is same as Putin reading it. Go back to school, Indiot. :omghaha::omghaha:
 
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BBC exposes weak and failing Pakistan Army

But they did cross the Line of Control (LoC), in some cases by more than a kilometre, to hit nearby Pakistani border posts.

Police officials on the Pakistani side privately concede that such a ground assault did occur in the Madarpur-Titrinot region of Poonch sector, west of Srinagar, where a Pakistani post was destroyed and one soldier killed.

In Leepa valley to the north, locals said that the Indians crossed the LoC and set up their guns on ridges directly overlooking the village of Mundakali. A Pakistani border post located at some distance east of the village was hit. Two other posts higher up in the mountains were also hit. At least four Pakistani soldiers were injured in the attack, which lasted from 05:00am until 8:00am, locals said.

Accounts of villagers gathered in Leepa suggest that Indian soldiers first opened fire in the valley at around 0500, hitting the post near Mundakali village and blowing up a mosque adjacent to it.

A soldier who was preparing for pre-dawn prayers was hit and injured, they said.

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Image captionThis border post in Mundakali was said to have been hit by Indian fire
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Image captionAn Indian post in Keran-Lawat as seen from the Pakistani side
Fire was also directed at two other posts higher up in the hills, one of which served as the forward headquarters in Leepa.

Locals say bunkers at these posts were partly destroyed and their communication system was paralysed for some time. This meant that troops stationed down in the valley and at the brigade headquarters took a while to realise what was going on.

The soldier who was injured at the Mundakali post was given first aid by villagers, and then transported to the military-run hospital in Leepa on a motorbike. Nearly two dozen villagers helped put out the fire that had engulfed the mosque.

Unprepared, and having a numerical disadvantage generally, the Pakistanis made use of their firepower to the fullest, exhausting their ammunition.

Locals said that in the days following the attack, hundreds of villagers were pressed into service carrying artillery shells and other ammunition to border posts to replenish their supplies.

So weak that they cannot even do a thing while we blow their posts while being inside their territory for over two hours do not even have ambulances for injured soldiers and run out off ammunition in few hours.
But they did cross the Line of Control (LoC), in some cases by more than a kilometre, to hit nearby Pakistani border posts.
as I said earlier posts are located at some distance from LOC depending on terrain. Kashmir mountains are thousands of feet high from surface.

Police officials on the Pakistani side privately concede that such a ground assault did occur in the Madarpur-Titrinot region of Poonch sector, west of Srinagar, where a Pakistani post was destroyed and one soldier killed.
Police official not mentioned(could be a lie) but ground assault taking place and succeeding are different things. only this one post out of many was damaged(not fully destroyed) in attacks on dozens of posts. It also shows how indian army lied about surgical strike on terrorists and proves Pakistani point that it was a border skirmish.

In Leepa valley to the north, locals said that the Indians crossed the LoC and set up their guns on ridges directly overlooking the village of Mundakali. A Pakistani border post located at some distance east of the village was hit. Two other posts higher up in the mountains were also hit. At least four Pakistani soldiers were injured in the attack, which lasted from 05:00am until 8:00am, locals said.
Locals could not know what is happening as it was night and dark and mountainous region covered with trees and fog at night. but posts were hit could have been due to cross border firing. indian army claimed that attac time was 12:30am to 4 am. so they would have heard Pakistani counter attack.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...sualties-caused-dgmo/articleshow/54579855.cms
I won't frustrate you by your own media contradictions.

Accounts of villagers gathered in Leepa suggest that Indian soldiers first opened fire in the valley at around 0500, hitting the post near Mundakali village and blowing up a mosque adjacent to it.
blowing an empty mosque at night with 1 or 2 people and unable to move closer to Pakistani posts or go past them is a failure of your army. Again the timing is different fro indian army and official timing. It was definitely Pakistani response and reprisal attack on Indians.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/army-conducted-surgical-strikes-on-terror-launch-pads-on-loc-significant-casualties-caused-dgmo/articleshow/54579855.cms

Fire was also directed at two other posts higher up in the hills, one of which served as the forward headquarters in Leepa.
Isn't it Pakistani stance? Firing on posts.
Locals say bunkers at these posts were partly destroyed and their communication system was paralysed for some time. This meant that troops stationed down in the valley and at the brigade headquarters took a while to realise what was going on.
How could locals know about communication failure? were they at posts? Pakistan army use latest systems for communications due to war on terror. Every post also have satellite communication systems. This don't make sense.

The soldier who was injured at the Mundakali post was given first aid by villagers, and then transported to the military-run hospital in Leepa on a motorbike. Nearly two dozen villagers helped put out the fire that had engulfed the mosque.

Soldier injured shows that they fought and repulsed indian attack. Could have been cross border attack.
 
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Fail.
Sophia saifi was taken to leepa valley which has an area of 120 km2 so she is in no position to say what happened.

The senior moderator post can be found on Oct-1, 2016.


Pak Army claimed there was no crossing of LoC but just cross fire, which is false.

You do know there is this thing called the quote button ... and regurgitating the same old tactics of "description of a video link + fail" isn't an argument. Your claim is

" A surgical strike happened, which involved your forces crossing in to our side of the LOC and targeting specific targets causing massive damages to some jihadi establishments / camps"

Do you have a single ounce of proof to back that entire claim up ? The answer is NO as you have already admitted in one of your posts before. What I do find quite amusing is how you completely denounce the reporting by CNN yet one media source is acceptable for you i.e. BBC which you literally quoted as "Proof" ... Yet when CNN reports and completely blows the cover on your "surgical strike" .. your like ... "well you see .. the reporter was taken to the Leepa Valley which has an area of such and such KM so she's in no position to report XYZ" ...

So the question now becomes ... Your BBC article also reported of an engagement at Leepa valley ... So how is that claim acceptable? After all, as per yourself, Leepa Valley has an area of 120 Km right, yet the BBC article for you is entirely correct ? Even though concluding the author goes and practically says that the Indian version is not reliable as well. Interestingly, for the BBC article, we don't even know who went to the site, who extrapolated the information, what were the sources etc.

For CNN you had a reporter on the ground, who looked Pakistani, representing an international organization, who reported on what the locals said .. What the mood was ... no mourning etc. However for some reason, in your POV the report by CNN is less reliable ?

 
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