Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

[aziqbal]

I have been away why is this thread dead?

is their another one?

 

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If he said this in the moderate countries of Germany, UAE, Bahrain, or Saudi Arabia, he would be in jail. In the moderate Arab countries, there is also the torture chamber to worry about, and in the most moral, democratic country of the world, it is not only the torture but also the rape. When moderate Saudi Arabia got away with murdering inside an embassy, I truly dreaded that the human rights standard America claims to be the leader of got much worse than a horror movie. The 'normalization' began with the body pieces of Khashoggi dissolved in acid and with the bombing and starvation of Yemenis.

 

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Interesting how he says there was a time when calling Jews a race was considered anti-Semitic, but now not calling Jews a race is considered anti-Semitic.

 

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Most moral country in the world is openly raping. The benefit of being most moral.

 

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What is the genocidal maniac talking about. Israel would be considered moral if it had not terrorized Palestinians into fleeing their villages. Later they had a chance to redeem themselves as the occupying power by granting independence and freedom to Palestine, upholding Palestinian land, political and human rights per UN partition plan and conventions, which include the right to return to their homeland in Israel. They didn't need to involve America and Arab states, did none of it, instead chose to become stealing, thieving, lying, destroying, abusing, murdering, raping, racist, genocidal state.

 

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Rishi Sunak did not arrest him. The left-wing is happy going after the left. That is why Trump accused Biden of being a bad Palestinian, helping genocide Gaza. Trump is very perceptive. Biden detained Scott Ritter too. I don't think Trump would do that despite his fierce pro-Israel rhetoric. Not saying I like the right-wing, but the left-wing is too hypocrite.

 

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I truly didn't think it was in her to say something independent minded like this. Hopefully she implements her words if elected. I wonder had her boss passed away, would she have continued with his genocidal policies or made changes.

 

[vizier]

I truly didn't think it was in her to say something independent minded like this. Hopefully she implements her words if elected. I wonder had her boss passed away, would she have continued with his genocidal policies or made changes.

She is planned by zios to lose for trump anyways. Dems and reps are both sides of the same coin. Low possibility but even if somehow she is elected these are pure rhetorics currently and does not mean any action will be taken.

Meanwhile response to israel could be a ground+air incursion into israel by Iran drones and Hezbollah ground support. This action does not consider israeli drones , f15s and f16s at all. Lebannese forces have 0 air defense.Without air defense it is an emotional thoughtless response. Even if they gain control of some land they need air defense to hold it and to not to be taken out within a week or two by isr planes. Hezb drones are not capable harming israels airbases unlike Ukr drones it seems as well. Russia is in difficult situation now. If they get some uav support from Iran and maybe some shorad support to protect Russian airbases from Ukr drones later on both usa-trump threat would mean nothing as well as resistance fighters will in future get much better ew and anti air equipment through Russia. trump also recognised golan heights he can start a military campaign as well after elections. Simply it looks like a trap under current conditions.

 

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Biden spokesman never heard of Hannibal Directive.

 

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Never heard of children endangering their lives to eat.

 

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I have been away why is this thread dead?

is their another one?

Most people have become numb to the Palestinian genocide. It's normalized now. There will be another thread for another Muslim nations in a few years... And the cycle of indifference will continue.

 

[vizier]

Most people have become numb to the Palestinian genocide. It's normalized now. There will be another thread for another Muslim nations in a few years... And the cycle of indifference will continue.

Now there will be a massive isr airstrike operation in both south and even north of Labennon. They will use drones and sats to designate targets and use f16s to strike Hezb positions.

Hezb needs to dig in and especially leaders should be in bunkers far from frontline not in safe houses or similar since isr intel easily found Fuad Shukrs safe house and made airstrike before.

Hezb can make fake decoy rocket launchers as bait and take down incoming high alt drones or maybe f16s by using loitering 358 sams or similar.

Also there seems to be a lack of accurate missiles or kamikaze drones or lack of planning. All isr military airports runways are within 100-200km range.

F16s can not take off to air for a long time if there are holes on the runway made by bms or rockets or cluster munitions.

F16s can be taken out in hangars in airbases by accurate kamikaze drones. I dont know in previous conflicts in Hamas and Hezbollah there is no single record of isr aircraft damage by a kamikaze drone or ballistic missile or disabling of isr airport runways by making holes or debris. There seems to be a lack of planning or lack of accuracy of equipment or israel has mountain airbases or similar. There are not many mountains in that small israel area which are suitable to host airbases inside. Most isr military airport runways are open from strikes above by kamikaze drones or tactical bms.

For example we see Ukr by using kamikaze drones can strike about 1000km inside Russia disabling airbase operations and damage some aircraft. For more than 20 years and 4+ conflicts both Hamas and Hezb couldnt disable an airbase runway or destroy israeli f16s inside hangars all less than 100-200km range.

 

[vizier]

Smaller versions of shahed drone will be less detectable to iron dome or similar measures. 150-200km range smaller shahed variant can take out airbase hangars at those ranges.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

For example we see Ukr by using kamikaze drones can strike about 1000km inside Russia disabling airbase operations and damage some aircraft. For more than 20 years and 4+ conflicts both Hamas and Hezb couldnt disable an airbase runway or destroy israeli f16s inside hangars all less than 100-200km range.

Lebanon as a state does not even attempt to fight back. Did Syria ever disable runways.