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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

Since then there’s been overwhelming evidence that it was a false flag operation to kickstart a War on Islam.

You mean Zero evidence.

The Al Queda pilots stayed in a hotel a mile from my parent's house.
There's plenty of evidence. They have them all on video.
 
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Hamas denies its political leader met with Iran’s Khamenei in Tehran

Media reports emerged of recent meeting between Ismail Haniyeh and Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Tehran



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Hamas on Thursday denied media reports that its political chief Ismail Haniyeh met with Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Tehran.

Media reports earlier emerged about a meeting between Haniyeh and Khamenei in the Iranian capital in recent days amid Israel’s ongoing military offensive on the Gaza Strip.

In a statement, Hamas said it regretted the “publication of unfounded news.”

The reports said the Iranian leader told Haniyeh that Tehran was not given prior notice of Hamas’ Oct. 7 cross-border attack on Israel, despite suspicions in the West that Iran had helped organize the attack.

According to the reports, Khamenei told Haniyeh that while Iran would offer political support to Hamas, it would not “intervene directly” in the fight.

The media reports also claimed that Khamenei asked Haniyeh to “silence those voices” in Hamas calling for Iran and the Lebanese group Hezbollah to directly join the war against Israel “in full force.” Iranian leaders are reportedly leery of the conflict escalating into a regional war.

There was no comment from Iranian authorities on the allegation.


 
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You mean Zero evidence.

The Al Queda pilots stayed in a hotel a mile from my parent's house.
There's plenty of evidence. They have them all on video.

I don't know man but it's hard to believe a guy played a flight simulator for 4 months then pulled that off....
 
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He's a French-Israeli representing the 8th Overseas French Citizens (they have a seat in the French Parliament); I would not take that crying lard as* words at face value. He's also very close friends of Netanyahu.

As for the 2nd, the Israelis have done far worse; since October 7th, over 200 Palestinians have been killed in the West Bank alone on made-up rates, and settlers have been given free reign and weapons to push Palestinians out. There's no Hamas there...
 
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I don't know man but it's hard to believe a guy played a flight simulator for 4 months then pulled that off....

What are you talking about? They went to flight school.

Don't you even know anything about something you are claiming is a conspiracy.

PALM BEACH COUNTY, Fla. — Many of the hijackers behind the deadliest attack on American soil spent time in Palm Beach County.

The hijackers lived here and they took flight lessons in Lantana and on the Treasure Coast.

For one man, he's still demonized by that dreadful day when the hijackers committed a series of coordinated terrorist attacks by crashing commercial airlines into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City.

Dekkers owned the flight school Huffman Aviation. The morning after the terrorist attacks, the FBI was at his business, and that's when he said the pieces started to come together.

For six months, Dekkers unknowingly taught Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi how to fly at his school. He made copies of their passports and their visas, but he said there were no red flags.



People just living in ignorance about the facts..and then cry conspiracy...unreal.
 
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Hamas prison riot showed Americans that they can break out of the siege imposed on them too:


What are you talking about? They went to flight school.

Don't you even know anything about something you are claiming is a conspiracy.

PALM BEACH COUNTY, Fla. — Many of the hijackers behind the deadliest attack on American soil spent time in Palm Beach County.

The hijackers lived here and they took flight lessons in Lantana and on the Treasure Coast.

For one man, he's still demonized by that dreadful day when the hijackers committed a series of coordinated terrorist attacks by crashing commercial airlines into the North and South Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City.

Dekkers owned the flight school Huffman Aviation. The morning after the terrorist attacks, the FBI was at his business, and that's when he said the pieces started to come together.

For six months, Dekkers unknowingly taught Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi how to fly at his school. He made copies of their passports and their visas, but he said there were no red flags.



People just living in ignorance about the facts..and then cry conspiracy...unreal.
Since when can you just walk into flight school like that and learn how to fly in six months ? What is this, like getting a concealed carry license ? Maybe it was true back then but it just seems suspicious.
 
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Hamas prison riot showed Americans that they can break out of the siege imposed on them too:



Since when can you just walk into flight school like that and learn how to fly in six months ? What is this, like getting a concealed carry license ? Maybe it was true back then but it just seems suspicious.

Well according to you it was only Microsoft flight simulator and now suddenly going to flight school simply is not good enough? I guess they needed 10 years of experience to be able toss the pilot out of his chair and navigate the plane.

Remember they only had to know how to fly the plane, landing and taking off were not necessary.

They got first hand training in flying a plane (and even got licenses) and once they knew how planes worked they then started using flight simulator programs to learn how to fly specific planes.
 
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You mean Zero evidence.

The Al Queda pilots stayed in a hotel a mile from my parent's house.
There's plenty of evidence. They have them all on video.

This may be the wrong thread to debate this since there is enough evidence to fill encyclopedias. However, I’ll just say that I remember watching a TV interview of an instructor at the flight training school in Florida attended by the pilots. He said that the pilots took lessons on two-seat trainers and were extremely incompetent. That they could subsequently fly commercial jets and do maneuvers that are beyond the capacity of highly experienced pilots leaves one scratching their heads.
 
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This may be the wrong thread to debate this since there is enough evidence to fill encyclopedias. However, I’ll just say that I remember watching a TV interview of an instructor at the flight training school in Florida attended by the pilots. He said that the pilots took lessons on two-seat trainers and were extremely incompetent. That they could subsequently fly commercial jets and do maneuvers that are beyond the capacity of highly experienced pilots leaves one scratching their heads.

He also said they passed their tests and got licenses from the FAA.

What more do you want?? The flight school isn't going to put them in a big 767.
No school does that. That's way too expensive to do single person training.

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This plane likely costs 10's of thousands for a simple 1 hour flight.
 
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You mean Zero evidence.

The Al Queda pilots stayed in a hotel a mile from my parent's house.
There's plenty of evidence. They have them all on video.

The conspiracy story does exist.

My father knows Indonesian military who said to him that one of the hijacker of Woyla incident is actually Indonesian army (intelligent personnel). Despite there is one Indonesian army personnel among the hijacker, Indonesian Army special force (Kopassus) killed all of the hijackers. We dont have specialized anti terrorist group during that time showing terrorist activities are not something usual to happen during that period.

Man, if there is one Indonesian Army who knows the Islamist radical wanted to hijacked the plane, so they should have taken all of them before the hijacking is done by the radical.

What is the purpose ? It is to make our former President, Soeharto, afraid of Islamist power. Soeharto after having all of their powerful ministers come from Muslim, including the economists and military, ended up use many Catholics as our finance minister (BJ Sumarlin) and Central Bank (one of them is Andrianus Moy coming from Eastern Indonesian region) and also Catholic General as our Armed Force Commander (Benny Moerdani). Soeharto also banned Hijab for all civil servants, including in the military.

Who is the master mind ? I think I know who he is

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Creating a pretext to get some target is something that is already used in the past, even Indonesian master mind has already done it in 1980's to shot Islamist power.

We have to admit that radical Islam does exist due to lack of knowledge on some Muslim on Quran and Hadith (it has already been existed since 7 centuries ago in the name of Khawarij group), but some group use these group to make a pretext to go against Islam. We can see the Islamophobia really grows significantly after 9/11.

Bush jr and his team know this 9/11 will happen, but they let it to happened.
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Garuda Indonesian Airways Flight 206 was a Garuda Indonesia flight that was hijacked on 28 March 1981, by the Komando Jihad in Indonesia. The McDonnell Douglas DC-9 plane PK-GNJ was hijacked on a domestic flight and forced to land at Don Mueang International Airport in Bangkok, Thailand. The hijackers demanded the release of their confederates from Indonesian jails and issued other demands. Three days later, the aircraft was stormed by Indonesian special forces. In the ensuing operation, all five hijackers were killed, while the pilot and one Kopassus operatives were mortally wounded, with both succumbing to their wounds later. All passengers were rescued.

 
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