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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

The US is one of the biggest hypocrite nations, they have killed millions over last few decades they have zero moral compass to criticize even north koreas kimmy let alone hamas or any other militant group.
This was not the question.
But the question was, if Palestinians are not able to control Hamas and are hostage to Hamas, then Israel has all the right to attack Hamas and kill them and Palestinians should be thankful to Israel.
And your excuse was: The US also have criminals.
I only made it clear to you that criminals inside the US are not attacking you. And if they attack, then you also get a right to attack them back. Do you agree with it?


I have no issue israel directly going for hamas, but its clear to are they are not.
We have already discussed it. You are at fault then. Why did you then let Hamas take charge of your affairs and make you hostage? Why do you then let Hamas attack Israeli citizens from your areas?

Violent resistance against occupation is allowed under international law. The Palestinians are within their rights to defend themselves and attack violently Israeli leaders and their security apparatus and anyone else who is violently supporting th occupation on Palestinian land.
Yes, violent resistance is allowed, when you are able to fight. But when you attack their civilians, and then hide behind your civilians, and you have no power and courage to face the opponent's army, then the same thing happens what is happening in Gaza. Yes, your violent resistance is hiding when Israel is bombing you.
Otherwise, please go ahead and do the violent resistance.

Your so-called resistance is known as Jihad now, where you kill non-Muslim civilians in suicide bombings. This violent resistance is not allowed under any International law.

And if you are unable to do violent resistance then you do peaceful resistance. Firerst Intefadah was with stones and the most successful one.

If Hamas and your Jihad had not been there, the fanatic Zionists would have already been defeated as the whole world would have been turned against them.

It is your stupidity of so-called Islamic Jihad, which is making you to suffer.


PS:
I asked you the following question, but you didn't reply:

Question 1:
Do you also condemn these double standards of Muslims where they demand equal rights and the right to preach and criticize others and convert non-Muslims to Islam, but themselves not ready to give the same equal rights to non-Muslims and ex-Muslims?
Do you also condemn these double standards of Muslims when they accept Nagorno Karabakh a part of Azerbaijan, but deny that Israel has any right to exist?

Question 2:
Do you allow non-Muslims to start a violent resistance against Muslim countries while they don't give them equal human rights?
Remember, according to Islam, Jihad becomes obligatory when a non-Muslim state does not allow to preach and let people to convert to Islam. So, what if non-Muslims also wage a war against you while you don't allow them to preach and don't let Muslims leave Islam?
 
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Its ok to call out Egypt for being one of these Arab nations you refer to- hopefully Egypt will wake up out of its humiliation slumber by Israel and US soon.

for real- their determination is what is beating Israel at the moment- nothing like fighting when you really having nothing to lose or live for.
Fate of the Haza is in Egypt hands too, even now they can pure in anti tank weapons, ammunitin or whatever Hamas needs, for rest of it they will take care of enemy personal and assets in Gaza.
 
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Probably because all that is now left of the plo is the quisling/vichy style collaborationist pa under abbas,now tasked with keeping order in the west bank while the zionists occupy,steal and colonize ever more of it.
Then again it is your fault that no PLO is present and you are hostage to Hamas and you cannot stop Hamas from attacking Israeli civilians.


I doubt that very much frankly.The oslo accords never even mention the term "palestinian state".
Arafat recognised israel and its right to exist,but there was no reciprocity from the zionists,that alone should have been a very good indicator that they likely never had any intention of doing so,and that as such oslo was always doomed to fail.
There may be problems with Oslo Accords, but nothing is perfect in this world. But as a whole, the world was reacting against illegal Israeli settlements and perhaps none (including the US) accepted the illegal settlements as a part of Israel.

It is this Islamic Jihad and suicide bombings by Hamas, which made the world angry and fall into the lap of Israel.

It is the double standard of the Muslim world where they demand all rights for themselves, but don't give equal rights to non-Muslims, which incites hatred against Muslims.


I do hate to break this to you,but its appalingly obvious that the zionists dont really seem to give two fvcks as to the opinion of the "whole world"
The whole world is not a fool as you claim.
The Western Secular world (even in the US) turned very much against Israel due to their fanaticism. Nothing is 100% perfect, but slowly pressure was mounting on Israeli fanatics.

Hamas formed in 1987. Israel was attacking Palestine from far before 1987, such as in 1967 West Bank. Does Palestine then have a right to attack Israel, according to your logic? Or do you have another lame excuse here to fill the marssive gape in your logic?

I have already answered it here.
I also asked 2 questions here. Are you going to answer them too? Or will too shut your eyes when the issue arises about equal rights for non-Muslims?
 
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As I wrote in the beginning of this war. Israel does not have the industrial capacity to sustain a long term military conflict. It wholly relies on the US/West for financial, logistics, armaments and overall protection. As this war is widening and Hezbollah has proliferated their attacks in lockstep with Yemen Houthis, and the West Bank heating up brings the US into a complicated situation. If the US decides to enter a regional war then what about Ukraine and the Pacific/Chinese threats? Will there be domestic support for such a massive war? This is why the US is mounting pressure on Israel to cease fire.

Plus, the obvious war crimes the IDF is / has committed put a lot of downstream pressure on Israel and the US. Seems like bibi miscalculated.
There is already global recession with what the west have done giving steroids to Ukraine. Now the Israeli are
Out with their historical begging bowl wanting to increase their credit limit with the USA. How much more can they satisfy the needs of BIbis barbarity? Already we see the public in major cities questioning and asking the funding to stop - I know congress is run by the Jewish lobby but you can’t get blood out of a stone.
I have to agree Bibi has miscalculated and I envisage and predict some sort of down turn into the affair.
Already the war crimes genocide and targeting hospitals and refugee camps isn’t a good advert for their actions…
 
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No,Falcon already said it is jn west bank


I deleted it then. People in social media are making whole kinds of claims without fact checking them or adding a disclaimer to their claims. I am gonna mute that guy.
 
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This was not the question.
But the question was, if Palestinians are not able to control Hamas and are hostage to Hamas, then Israel has all the right to attack Hamas and kill them and Palestinians should be thankful to Israel.
And your excuse was: The US also have criminals.
I only made it clear to you that criminals inside the US are not attacking you. And if they attack, then you also get a right to attack them back. Do you agree with it?



We have already discussed it. You are at fault then. Why did you then let Hamas take charge of your affairs and make you hostage? Why do you then let Hamas attack Israeli citizens from your areas?


Yes, violent resistance is allowed, when you are able to fight. But when you attack their civilians, and then hide behind your civilians, and you have no power and courage to face the opponent's army, then the same thing happens what is happening in Gaza. Yes, your violent resistance is hiding when Israel is bombing you.
Otherwise, please go ahead and do the violent resistance.

Your so-called resistance is known as Jihad now, where you kill non-Muslim civilians in suicide bombings. This violent resistance is not allowed under any International law.

And if you are unable to do violent resistance then you do peaceful resistance. Firerst Intefadah was with stones and the most successful one.

If Hamas and your Jihad had not been there, the fanatic Zionists would have already been defeated as the whole world would have been turned against them.

It is your stupidity of so-called Islamic Jihad, which is making you to suffer.


PS:
I asked you the following question, but you didn't reply:

Question 1:
Do you also condemn these double standards of Muslims where they demand equal rights and the right to preach and criticize others and convert non-Muslims to Islam, but themselves not ready to give the same equal rights to non-Muslims and ex-Muslims?
Do you also condemn these double standards of Muslims when they accept Nagorno Karabakh a part of Azerbaijan, but deny that Israel has any right to exist?

Question 2:
Do you allow non-Muslims to start a violent resistance against Muslim countries while they don't give them equal human rights?
Remember, according to Islam, Jihad becomes obligatory when a non-Muslim state does not allow to preach and let people to convert to Islam. So, what if non-Muslims also wage a war against you while you don't allow them to preach and don't let Muslims leave Islam?
You are really a revolting human festering and getting great pleasure in the suffering on mankind. You can tell you are a troubled festered little dark Indian obsessed with Muslims.
You can’t debate objectively and register that Israel is committing genocide on innocent children - attacking hospitals and refugee camps and your posts are saying it’s the Palestinians to blame?
Hamas were bang out of order with their actions on 7/10 but the retaliation is simply a war crime. You can’t attack civilians like this and say you are looking for terrorists.
70 years of stealing land - raping civilians -
Making Gaza a concentration camp doesn’t come with consequences of the oppressed being starved of a life.
Stop trolling on a thread - it’s a scummish cockroach thing to do
 
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Time to head back to Europe, Fu**ers!

Eilat Struggles To Host Incoming Israeli Refugees


Tel Aviv should be turned into Gaza.

Mark the buildings inside Tel Aviv.
Eilat is a very small town, incapable of sustaining large populations. If it is overflowed with migrants, it will do what Zionists do best: invade and ethnically cleanse the surrounding regions. Eilat borders a much larger Jordanian city of Aqaba which may land in trouble.
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