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Gaza-Israel Conflict | October 2023

US wants to rule the world in a very non demo cratic way that is its goal. To be top dog and rule other countries like a king or emperor. There is no real democracy at play here it is all just a farce
 
Israel has lauched a large bet with this war. They have precipitated the day of choice, to this date, because time was running out for their status in the region. Israel was losing deterrence and the fact is they need the US to stand for them in a very remarkably way on this war.

As per war calculus, surely at maximun US and Israel expects if things go bad for them to make a cease fire, as maximun. As minimum they would take gaza land and eliminate the more weak piece of resistence axis

, but this would be the beginning.

A succesful campaign in Gaza would lead to more ambitious campaigns, as Lebanon, without Hamas, Israel would carry out attacks in south western lebanon with US approbal, they are measuring the level of willingness of Iran to the maximun.

So, these days are decisive.

It s like US are the romans of this modern times, the rest of the world needs to wake up, because they are terrible naive.
 
Finally Americans are waking up to NAZI Zionists
Very very insightful for everyone
An American judge and a general
Key points
1. Israel exercise showed that they won't win even with American help.
2. Nethanyahu is in big big trouble and could put the final nail on Israel Zionist coffin.
3. Aipac is a foreign agent entity.
4. Nethanyahu video around boosting he bought congress and is leadership.
5. Israel could be heading for martial law or dictatorship.
6. Friday sermon by Hezb leader is scaring the sh&t out of Israel and it's zionists allies.
7. IDF killed hostages Israeli hostages on Oct 8 when the went in vengeful mode. 8 Hamas fighters and 18 Israeli nationality hostages were killed by IDF on Oct 8th.
8. Two Israeli battalions got wiped out from the face of earth in a stand up fight...13th and 51st battalion that is...
Golani brigade took massive massive losses and got humiliated..
 
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Is Israel saint no but I will tell you one thing which is very clear. Hamas, Hisbollah and their supporters goal is to kill every Israeli Jews Vs Israel goal is to destroy them and not anyone else. It is also very clear that Hamas and Hizbullah put children and woman in front to create casualties to gain sympathy and most of the world now see through that.

Anyway I wish peace return but I don’t see that after so many agreements and accords violence has always returned.

I appreciate your desire for peace. I am writing this reply considering you genuinely do want peace and you are not another Hasbara and/or Hindutva troll those have been infesting PDF.

Unfortunately peace is nowhere near in sight. Israel does not want a peaceful solution. If they wanted, they would have abide by Oslo peace accord and not implement an apartheid regime. They have been gradually taking over Palestinian lands through continuous American and European settler integration into Palestinian lands. Intentionally violating the agreed terms in every possible way. If the Palestinians don't resist, they will eventually pushed out of their own country.

Watch this video if you are truly interested in understanding where the problem lies with the Zionist mentality -


As for Hamas using civilians as human shield - that is exactly the narrative of the Zionists. Gaza is a small stretch of land. The largest open air prison in the world. Where should Hamas go and protest? Should they do hunger strike? No point, Israel would gladly let them die slowly. Should they do political demonstration? Israel will crush it with its military.

Israel dolls out collective punishment for the smallest acts of resistance, typical of an apartheid regime. A child throws a rock at a tank, IDF shoots and murders the child and gets away with no repercussions. No sanction from the so called civilized Western world. When political solution has failed, the only solution left is armed struggle. And whenever there is any resistance of any kind - Israel dolls out collective punishment on civilians. It is not exactly the case of human shield - rather a case of ethnic cleansing.
 
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Unfortunately, foreign policy is not always handled by the hardliners or more strategically-minded. For example, the Nuclear Deal. This was the single biggest mistake made, largely the result of the reformist camp/moderate camp. This set Iran back in nuclear development. As such, Iran still does not have nuclear weapons. The moderates thought they could hold off an internal situation which can be turned into a color revolution by Iran's enemies, and signed the most one-sided deal in the country's history since the Qajar dynasty. Interestingly, the U.S. ripped the deal shortly after and engineered the biggest color revolution since 2009. Now, without a nuclear deterrent, Iran must sit by as Western militaries have ensured they will hit Iran and proxies if they get involved in war on behalf of the Palestinians. This chain of stupidity goes back to 2015. The effects of brain drain are real. The effects of corruption are real.

We unfortunately are bearing witness to a crescendo that will culminate with the end of Iran. And not just the end of the Islamic Republic, but the end of Iran with its current borders. A pro-U.S. government is in Pakistan and will likely occupy Sistan and Balochistan of Iran. The Aliyev government and West have knocked Armenia out of the game of nations through war and their plant, Pashinyan. This places them in the perfect position to invade and annex northern Iran. The KRG would gladly take Western Iran. Ahwaz will break away into a U.S. occupied gas station. What will be left of Iran is a landlocked, primarily desert country, with its capital, Tehran, right on the border of a future Azerbaijani megastate.

Right as we speak, they are making preparations to gas the tunnels of Gaza. They will succeed. The brutality shown here will be cheered on by much of the world, as propaganda has successfully been concocted to ensure any method to erase the Palestinians is considered kosher. They will then invade Lebanon and neutralize HezbAllah, while the remaining Palestinians will be pushed into Egypt and Jordan. Next, they will break Syria's Kurdish region off and conjoin it with Iraq's. They will assassinate Assad and ensure a Sunni jihadist state takes over, as they tried in 2014. They will neutralize all PMF militias and split Iraq into a Sunni state that is absorbed by Jordan and a Shi'ite state that will join in the future with Ahwaz.

When the U.S. destroys Iran, it will be a brutal, unforgiving war and genocide of Iranians. The ethnic strife will make Yugoslavia look like child's play in comparison. The world will sit by and cheer it on, as by then propaganda will have poisoned their minds. Khamenei's biggest mistake was kowtowing to the reformists and dragging his feet on nuclearization. It's the beginning of the end of our great nation.

As for Turkiye, I don't know why you have such a hard-on for them being next. Turkiye is one of the most important and integral states in NATO. The U.S. won't allow their Kurds to grow out of control. You will be fine. Just prepare for millions of Iranian refugees.
Iran had a really good opportunity to defend itself by building nukes. it threw it away or maybe its scientists weren't good enough to figure it all out. its probably too late now to get nukes and survive. Iran would cause major damage to US in a conventional war, but its just no match in the long run.
 

He got some great points.

It’s posts like this that convinces me you are clearly a thick Indian.
Back in 2019 Netanyahu said to his party -
“We need Hamas to be active. We need to make sure they are funded because they oppose the 2 state solution which in the long term will fulfill our own objectives.”
He doesn’t want the 2 state solution and wants a scapegoat to blame.
Any half wit that’s actually an Israeli knows the intent of the facist Netanyahu - hence the reason why I think your Indian.
If you recall the last 15 years, or even the past 50 years, Israelis never spoke of the Two-State Solution as positive. Now suddenly, when it is obviously impossible, they bring it up as if its something that their opponents have rejected. These are snakes with venomous tactics.
 


Saudis are a lost cause. They will suffer in the hereafter.

As for Egypt - even though Sisi is a sell out Zionist - but Egypt not opening up border to take refugee is a good thing for Palestinians. Because that's what Zionists want. Push all Palestinians into Sinai permanent refugee camps and completely annex Gaza. The same problem Pakistan faced with Afghan refugees and Bangladesh faces with Rohingya refugees. If the Gazans leave, then for sure they aren't ever able to go back unless the Arab leaders grow back their spine and resist like before, which I don't see happening anytime soon.
 
Saudis are a lost cause. They will suffer in the hereafter.

As for Egypt - even though Sisi is a sell out Zionist - but Egypt not opening up border to take refugee is a good thing for Palestinians. Because that's what Zionists want. Push all Palestinians into Sinai permanent refugee camps and completely annex Gaza. The same problem Pakistan faced with Afghan refugees and Bangladesh faces with Rohingya refugees. If the Gazans leave, then for sure they aren't ever able to go back unless the Arab leaders grow back their spine and resist like before, which I don't see happening anytime soon.

Yes for sure, all this people that are encouraging Egypt to open borders are either or extremely naive and stupid, or malicious people than does not want Gaza to exist anymore, or genocidal anyways.

The solution is to give medical care to gazans and stop Israeli attacks on hospitals, not to get out the natives from their land,idiots.
 
Israel announced 1650 killed by Hamas commando raid. That's the most ever since the creation of Israel.

The zionazis claimed Egypt killed between 2,500 & 2,800 during the Yom Kippur war in 1973. That was in a span of 20 days of actual fighting in that war.

Assuming 3,000 died, the ratio of that death toll compared to the zionist population at the time was calculated by military historians to be akin to the US losing 250,000 men in Vietnam instead of the actual 58,000 (released by the Pentagon) and that was in a span of 10 years! That doesn't even take into account the lying the zionist do to inflate & deflate the numbers in their favor. And according to Egyptian military after the war, the number was far greater than even 3,000 zionist dead, but it goes to show how impactful it is to them to lose people not just because of the ratio of death to population, but also because of how they value life on this earth compared to Muslim who are taught to value life more after death.

The statistic for Egyptian deaths is listed in most books written by Jews who never really got accurate information from Egypt in the first place and the claims are between 5,000 & 15,000 lmmmaaaaooooo! It's not even close to that. But that's how they twist and tweak the numbers to manipulate history in their favor and sadly the common sheep fall for all that rubbish.

BTW, we need to check if this ridiculous and unfortunately super despicable anti-American law statute applies to the state we live in, just to have an open eye on how things are developing here in the US.

 
there was no zionist state before either
No. But populations of both jews and arabs and as such a two state solution is fair.

Those who want to deny facts and seek an uncompromising 1state solution are trash.

Netanyahu is trash.
Half the posters on this forum are little muslim netanyahus though.
Denying any hamas wrongdoing
Denying any israeli state.
they are not hostages, they are legitimate prisoners of war between occupier and liberation forces and keep your spell for yourself.
There were many non-combatants..so hostages.

And they were taken from green line territory, so not as simple as “occupier/liberation” either you fundamentalist hatemonger.
 
Yes for sure, all this people that are encouraging Egypt to open borders are either or extremely naive and stupid, or malicious people than does not want Gaza to exist anymore, or genocidal anyways.

The solution is to give medical care to gazans and stop Israeli attacks on hospitals, not to get out the natives from their land,idiots.
Keep your borders you will need em in afterlife.

Saudis are a lost cause. They will suffer in the hereafter.

As for Egypt - even though Sisi is a sell out Zionist - but Egypt not opening up border to take refugee is a good thing for Palestinians. Because that's what Zionists want. Push all Palestinians into Sinai permanent refugee camps and completely annex Gaza. The same problem Pakistan faced with Afghan refugees and Bangladesh faces with Rohingya refugees. If the Gazans leave, then for sure they aren't ever able to go back unless the Arab leaders grow back their spine and resist like before, which I don't see happening anytime soon.
What about asking for Daady isreal permission everytime they want send aid trucks or treat injured? That is also ok?
 
Some countries have fought Israel before to no avail. What will be different this time? Let's see if Iranian axis of resistance strategy will work. Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthi are components of the Iranian axis of resistance strategy.
It has been shown that no Arab country can defeat Israel. so Iran is not using countries. Countries are centralised and easy for CIA to infiltrate. Pass the information to Israel. Easy to see the tank column moving, easy to bribe soldiers and generals for information.

With these non state actors, it seems it's not so easy to infiltrate them. they might actually be more effective than a useless corrupt and unmotivated army.

Will a CIA asset go undercover and live in Hamas tunnels and be able to relay information back? No chance, they dont pay that well. Arab armies are obsolete, they are only good for internal crowd control and military coups. Arab countries might as well not bother to have any army ad save the money.

Non state actors will take over now it seems.
 
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